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[L-OT] Re: a final poll to decide this list's policy

2002-10-24 by Hendrik Jan Veenstra

Thoughts from the mind of Jeremy Martin, 24-10-2002:

>  > >Good point, but by that same logic: should we leave the list 100%
>>  >uncensored with an ambiguous list policy and let people talk about
>>  >whatever they want, because 7 people want it?
>>
>>  Yes. If 17 are pro-moderation and 13 are contra, and the other
>>  570 apparently don't care, then I don't see how you'll ever
>>  have a strong point in favour of moderation. Apparently the
>>  status quo (= no moderation) is fine for the large majority out
>>  there -- otherwise they would have voted.
>
>Pure speculation... It's impossible to tell if they didn't vote
>because they like the status quo, didn't vote because they don't
>care, or didn't vote because they have abandoned their email
>address / YahooID and don't pay attention at all to the list anymore.

A bit of elementary logic applied to your above quote:
If they like the status quo: keep the LOT unmoderated.
If they don't care: keep the LOT unmoderated.
If they don't even read the LOT and thus don't count: keep the LOT unmoderated.

How simple can it get?

Oh, sorry, that was intellectual arrogance, I suppose :-)

>  > Wrong.  "way off topic threads like this don't come up very
>>  often at all" and that's _precisely_ the reason there *never*
>>  is the need to step in. 
>
>When way off topic threads start becoming racist and personal attacks
>are being made, we do have a very good reason to step in. No one
>needs that, here or anywhere else.

Personal attacks: everyone here is mature enough to defend him/herself.
Racism: I didn't see any around last time I looked.  Or is saying 
that the Isreali government is a bunch of bastards because they keep 
killing Palestinian children racist nowadays?  The same could be said 
about the Palestines btw...  If that is racist, then I have some nice 
racist remarks in store for you regarding one bastard president of 
one very well know superpower...

>  > These threads die out by themselves. In a few days, or a few
>>  weeks -- who cares?
>
>All the people who signed up for this list, thinking since it is
>a "sister list" to the LUG and our other Emagic lists, topics
>discussed here would be related to music...

"*All* the people"?  Then quite a few posters here apparently don't 
qualify as "people".  Or did you mean "all the people who thought 
this would be a music related list"?  In that case: how many people 
are we talking about?  You don't know, and I don't either.

AFAI can see, it's not even the majority who cares...

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>
Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

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