The Logic Off Topic list

On 2/22/03 3:44 AM, "logic-ot@yahoogroups.com" <logic-ot@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

> Original Message:
>  Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:54:51 EST
>  From: TazmnianDv@...
> Subject: Re: Convincing Emagic to reinstate VST in OSX, was Prosoniq
> 
> No, its a lot like Logic's plugs versus 3rd party. Do you just rely on
> Logic's 50 plugs? Is there no need for any other company to make them?
> 
> Your argument missed the point. I do have plugs which are valuable and which
> I use - and which I have paid good money for. It is Apple which has not
> bothered to make them compatible because of their master plan.
> 
> Same thing for VST. Apple wants to set the standard and control it. Thats
> great in a way, but they FORCE everyone to change or not use their stuff. In
> the same way  that the new macs won't run OS 9 anymore ... force.

I agree and that stinks.  I won't go to OS X anytime soon, or buy a new Mac
anytime soon, for just that reason.  However, Peak 3.2 works in OS X WITH
VST plugs and will even use them "offline" with Core Audio in OS X (only).
"Offline," as in without using an ASIO driven hardware interface booted.
So, it must be something eMagic simply can't implement soon enough to make
the "on time" release and shipping of v6 happen.  I have a hard time
believing they're attempting to make only their proprietary plugs all that
can be used in Logic.  If they do, they'll only lose even more consumers to
2 tr editors that CAN use VSTs in OS X.  That seems counter-productive...

It might even force me to move to another product for multi-track before
buying an upgrade from v4.8.1 to v6.  I have a LOT of "3rd party" VSTs that
I use in Logic, and if I could no longer use them, I'd be very pissed.
Aside from the fact that I have over $1,000 invested in them, Logic's plugs
don't even come close to being as hip as Elemental Audio's Eqium and Firium
(awesome EQs), and they have nothing like Ambisone or any other
psycho-acoustic "goodies," not even any stereo enhancers or "fake" stereo
generators (although, there are "tricks" you can use with the digital delay
plug to get something close, but you're then using a lot of processor power
for something a plug designed for this uses very little of).  The selection
of plugs (unless they've added a helluva lot more in v5-6) simply isn't
"there" for getting it ALL done.

Apple will have NO control over the making and use of VSTs regardless, they
weren't even designed for Macs, they were designed for PCs.  3rd party
software makers moved them to the Mac platform.  So, the market for them
will be there as long as PCs AND Macs will, and unless Apple's management
has gone completely and totally, irreversibly insane...  ;)

Best regards,
...z


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