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Re: [L-OT] Understanding SYSEX

2001-04-18 by Kool Musick

Why or why do I always get myself into these situations?????!!!! (Nothing 
personal to you!!).


The F0 means roughly 'Hey guys, look out, operational message coming'.
The 18 after the F0 means 'if any of you are made by Emu systems' -- 
because their manufacturer number is 18 inhexadecimals, or 24 in ordinary 
numbers', then sit up and take note because the rest applies to you. 
Anything else, please ignore this.

The F7 right at the end tells everything 'Ok, you can start paying 
attention again cause I've finished talking to that Emu guy'.

As for what comes in the middle -- I really have absolutely no idea because 
it could be anything at all. It all depends on how Emu have decided to 
create a concert grand sound. Honestly and truthfully, decoding sysex data 
is a thorough pain in the neck. Those who do it like to protect their jobs 
by making it incredibly difficult to fathom what their up to.

So ... why not try thisOK? There's a demo version of SoundDiver available. 
Demo means it won't cost you anything. Very likely, the synth you're 
interested in is supported. Included in SoundDiver is a monitor section 
that allows you to see the sysex data as you tweak things.

Also, if you get MIDI Ox you will notice that it has monitors. You can then 
go one step at a time and tweak a knob and watch exactly what data the 
synth spits out as you do so. Record that data either by writing it down; 
or else creating a little file for it and saving it.

What is pretty much guaranteed is that when you play that file back at your 
synth, it will do exactly the same as it did when you first recorded it.

I am not trying to be difficult but beyond the first two data bytes and the 
last one, I simply do not know what the rest of the data means, and 
probably only the manufacturer or someone who works for him does or else 
who has created an editor does.

I do not have this synth so I really do not know what that data means 
except that it tells some Emu device somewhere to do something or other. 
Without owning the synth it is impossible to know how the data is organized.

Sorry not to be more helpful.

Kool Musick
Keep Musick Kool



At 03:18 PM 4/18/01, you wrote:
>Kool Musick wrote:
> > Logic is not very good for this kind of thing.
> >
> > Try using MIDI Ox which is quite a nice MIDI management programme and will
> > allow you to examine, write, store and such like sysex strings.
>
>   Thanks!! It seems like a really cool program. I'm still having a little
>bit of difficulty digesting all of this though. Maybe because I've always
>been an audio guy. If you wouldn't mind could you explain a little more for
>me? I would be so grateful:)))
>   When I dump the SYSEX message into the program this is what it shows. F0
>18 08 00 01 00 00 43 00 6F 00 6E 00 63 00 65 00 72 00 74 00 47 00 72 00 61
>00 6E 00 64 00 7F 7F 7F 7F 7F 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 7F 00 7F 00 7F 00
>7F 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 73 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 5A 00 00 00 2F 00 52
>00 00 00 18 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 73 00 00 00
>00 00 5B 00 7F 00 00 00 23 00 4A 00 00 00 2D 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>00 00 00 40 00 00 01 43 00 02 00 3C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 3C 00 00 00
>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 63 00 0C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 01
>00 01 00 01 00 0A 00 1C 00 04 00 1F 00 19 00 00 00 66 7F 30 00 40 00 7F 00
>7E 7F 00 00 00 00 01 00 02 00 05 00 06 00 07 00 08 00 09 00 01 00 0D 00 00
>00 00 00 00 00 01 00 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 40 00 40 00 40 00 40 00
>18 00 0D 00 09 00 30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 14 00 78 00 01 00 00
>00 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 0F 00 25 7F 00 00 37 00 00 00 4D 00 63 00
>00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 7F 7F 5B 00 64 00 48 F7
>This is just one preset, Concert Grand. How do you figure out what to
>tweak? The E-mu manual is of little assistance. It's so foriegn to me. I've
>been struggling with this for soooooo long.
>   Thanks in advance!!   --Roger
>
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