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Re: Re: [L-OT] guitar gods

2001-06-25 by Wilson Zorn

Well many of the people you've named (but not all) I wouldn't group as
machismo/flashy so don't assume I'm lumping in fast players or everyone
you've named.  As you say, the media does minimally exacerbate it and
perhaps they do invent it more often than not.  Maybe.

But it's interesting to me your difference in emphasis on perspective from
GAmoore (I think? - sorry if I'm wrong) who seems to think that everybody's
competing.

----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Angus <phil.angus@...>
To: <logic-ot@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 2:58 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [L-OT] guitar gods


> Wilson Zorn wrote:
>
> > Hmmm, I think that the whole virtuoso machismo "I'm-better-than-you"
> > mentality is what has turned me off to a lot of mainstream guitarists,
> > particularly the flashy ones.  Since I don't intend to reproduce, maybe
> > that's why given this line o f thought...
>
> This is wrong. Most of what you are talking about is invented by the press
> or by people who just go around saying daft things like 'Richie Blackmoore
> is better than Eddie Van Halen' etc etc, and most of the time they don't
> know what they are talking about. I know there are one or two exceptions,
> but of course you can apply that to sportsmen, politicians,
actors...anyone.
>
> I have spoken to three famous guitarists (back stage party after a Roger
> Waters concert) and all of them had nothing but praise for their fellow
> musicians, and all three of them were raving about Waters. They were (not
> wanting to names drop, but then again who cares) Mike Rutherford, Jeff
Beck
> and Snowy White. Oh Mike Batt was there as well to name but one of many
> familiar faces (Fish, yes he was there and in fact so were the rest of
> Marillion). They all talked like over enthusiastic fans about other people
> in general and what they were all doing, who was working with who etc etc.
>
> Also, One man's lack of detection of emotional content in someone like
> Satriani's playing does not mean he isn't an emotional player. It means
the
> listener has not detected any, and in fact a lot goes over their head. You
> don't need to play slow to be emotional. I can hear lots of emotion in his
> playing, as well as Steve Vai. Gary Moore is probably one of the most
> emotional players of all time, along with Dave Gilmour, but they are both
> totally different. Moore can sound emotional whether at lightening speed
or
> slow blues. In fact it is often a challange for him to restrain himself.
>
> One of the simplest chord sequences and riffs of all time to the ear is
> Alright Now (Paul Kossof, Free). Most (in fact everyone I've ever heard in
a
> pub/club) plays it wrong. Most of the time they are simply playing the
wrong
> notes or missing some vital ones, and the rest of the time they are
missing
> the emotion or phrasing. Joe Punter would never detect it though.
>
> Now, let me just get down from my pedastal. Alright now, baby it's a
alright
> now......
>
>
>
>
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