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Hi Per,

I have no idea what you're talking about but Electrix has a looping 
machine. Don't ask me whether it does what you need, but perhaps you 
could check it out.
http://www.electrix.ca/

Bye,
Joeri

Per Boysen wrote:

>Hi everyone,
>
>Now and then I have been doing concerts with digital loop delays, playing
>instruments into them  and manipulating the loops on the fly. Since my old
>first generation delays and harmonizers broke down (bought in 1982) I have
>been renting a Lexicon Jam man for the gigs. But now I want to buy a decent
>live looping device to put in a rack together with some other stuff as a
>"permantent live looping" set up.
>
>I've been recommended:
>(1) Roland RC-20 Loop Station  (new device, don't know much...)
>(2) Gibson (Oberheim) Echoplex (good one, many loopists using it)
>(3) Lexicon PCM-42 (the classic - maybe obolete for live use these days)
>
>Have you used any of these devices? Or maybe you can recommend some better
>choice? I'm looking for fast and easy foot pedal functionality since the
>device is gonna be used as a tool for live improvisation. I also need "sound
>on sound" layering capability and the tap tempo feature. Many inputs would
>also come in handy - I would like to have a mic connected as well as a line
>in.
>
>Regards
>
>Per Boysen
>
>
>
> 
>
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>
>

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Thanks,

I found the new product The Repeeter that seems to be what I'm looking for.
But they seem to sell only in North America and I'm in Scandinavia :(  Gotta
think about something...

per


Hi Per,

I have no idea what you're talking about but Electrix has a looping
machine. Don't ask me whether it does what you need, but perhaps you
could check it out.
http://www.electrix.ca/

Bye,
Joeri

Per Boysen wrote:

>Hi everyone,
>
>Now and then I have been doing concerts with digital loop delays, playing
>instruments into them  and manipulating the loops on the fly. Since my old
>first generation delays and harmonizers broke down (bought in 1982) I have
>been renting a Lexicon Jam man for the gigs. But now I want to buy a decent
>live looping device to put in a rack together with some other stuff as a
>"permantent live looping" set up.
>
>I've been recommended:
>(1) Roland RC-20 Loop Station  (new device, don't know much...)
>(2) Gibson (Oberheim) Echoplex (good one, many loopists using it)
>(3) Lexicon PCM-42 (the classic - maybe obolete for live use these days)
>
>Have you used any of these devices? Or maybe you can recommend some better
>choice? I'm looking for fast and easy foot pedal functionality since the
>device is gonna be used as a tool for live improvisation. I also need
"sound
>on sound" layering capability and the tap tempo feature. Many inputs would
>also come in handy - I would like to have a mic connected as well as a line
>in.
>
>Regards
>
>Per Boysen
>
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

--
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joeri@...

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List-admin   Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM






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-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
  Från: Joeri Vankeirsbilck [mailto:joeri@...]

  >
  >
  >I found the new product The Repe a ter that seems to be what I'm looking for.
  >But they seem to sell only in North America and I'm in Scandinavia :(  Gotta
  >think about something...
  >
  I'm sure they're available worldwide. I've seen them over here in the 
  Benelux as well.

   Thanks. I know where to look from here :)  Read the PDF manual and immediately had that "gotta-get-this-beast" fever... What a smart piece of equipment it is!

  per


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>
>
>I found the new product The Repeeter that seems to be what I'm looking for.
>But they seem to sell only in North America and I'm in Scandinavia :(  Gotta
>think about something...
>
I'm sure they're available worldwide. I've seen them over here in the 
Benelux as well.

-- 
Joeri Vankeirsbilck
joeri@...

Belway Productions      -     http://www.belway.com
List-admin   Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

Per Boysen wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Now and then I have been doing concerts with digital loop delays,
> playing
> instruments into them  and manipulating the loops on the fly. Since my
> old
> first generation delays and harmonizers broke down (bought in 1982) I
> have
> been renting a Lexicon Jam man for the gigs. But now I want to buy a
> decent
> live looping device to put in a rack together with some other stuff as
> a
> "permantent live looping" set up.
>
> I've been recommended:
> (1) Roland RC-20 Loop Station  (new device, don't know much...)
> (2) Gibson (Oberheim) Echoplex (good one, many loopists using it)
> (3) Lexicon PCM-42 (the classic - maybe obolete for live use these
> days)
>
> Have you used any of these devices? Or maybe you can recommend some
> better
> choice? I'm looking for fast and easy foot pedal functionality since
> the
> device is gonna be used as a tool for live improvisation. I also need
> "sound
> on sound" layering capability and the tap tempo feature. Many inputs
> would
> also come in handy - I would like to have a mic connected as well as a
> line
> in.
>
> Regards
>
> Per Boysen
>
>

Korg KAOSS pad
Boss RC-20
Akai E1 headrush
Lexicon Jam Man
Boomerang Phrase sampler


I've tried the Akai, and found it pretty cool, I know some players who
are very keen on the boomerang. In the past [long long ago] I used
watkins copycat and Klemt Echolette tape delays. These two are cool
because you can manipulate the playback by hand, though they take some
time to get to know what you can do with them, without breaking the tape
[they were not meant to be used that way] And, I guess,
hand-tape-manipulation is not real convenient for guitarists.

Dave Eager

>Now and then I have been doing concerts with digital loop delays, playing
>instruments into them  and manipulating the loops on the fly. Since my old
>first generation delays and harmonizers broke down (bought in 1982) I have
>been renting a Lexicon Jam man for the gigs. But now I want to buy a decent
>live looping device to put in a rack together with some other stuff as a
>"permantent live looping" set up.

Yes. I do this. In fact, you may want to check out the looper's delight page and mailing list. Everyone there does almost nothing else.

http://www.loopers-delight.com/

>I've been recommended:
>(1) Roland RC-20 Loop Station  (new device, don't know much...)
>(2) Gibson (Oberheim) Echoplex (good one, many loopists using it)
>(3) Lexicon PCM-42 (the classic - maybe obolete for live use these days)

Of these three, the Echoplex Digital Pro is by far and away the most powerful and easiest to use. Personaly, I also consider it the 'classic' looper. However, Electrix just came out with Repeater, arguably more than the EDP's equal. It uses Smart Card Flash RAM, so your loops can be upto 256 meg in size and aren't erased when you power down. Furthermore, it allows you 4 mono tracks at once, or two stereo and it can perform time and pitch stretching on the fly.

I would recomend either the Echoplex, or the Repeater. The Repeater responds to midi commands, but does not have it's own foot pedal yet. The echoplex has a dedicated foot controller.

>Have you used any of these devices? Or maybe you can recommend some better
>choice? I'm looking for fast and easy foot pedal functionality since the
>device is gonna be used as a tool for live improvisation. I also need "sound
>on sound" layering capability and the tap tempo feature. Many inputs would
>also come in handy - I would like to have a mic connected as well as a line
>in.

You can overdub on almost any pedal. However, the Repeater allows >separate< tracks at once. The echoplex allows you to specify the number of loops you intend to use, and clone loops you have created, either automatically or on the fly. 


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Hi Jonathan,

Thanks for the tip. I've been to the web page already but now I'm going to
check out the mailing list as well.

cheers

per

 -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Fr\ufffdn: Jonathan El-Bizri [mailto:sserendipity@...]

Yes. I do this. In fact, you may want to check out the looper's delight page
and mailing list. Everyone there does almost nothing else.

http://www.loopers-delight.com/

A minor heads up - it's almost as heavy a traffic list as the LUG, though with probably less than a tenth as many members - a good or bad thing, you decide. Be prepared for several years worth of in-jokes - many people on the list have been there for four or more years (Including Kim Flint, who's list it is, and who built the Echoplex DP. The developer of the Repeater is a relatively new addition to the fold. There are quite a few other notable musicians too.)

Also, the email addresses go into an unprotected archive, so you would be advised to subscribe with a disposable email account, just for the list. If you want a taste of what is discussed, check out the archives.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Per Boysen 
  To: logic-ot@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:03 AM
  Subject: SV: [L-OT] Any looping live musicians here? Need tip on gear...


  Hi Jonathan,

  Thanks for the tip. I've been to the web page already but now I'm going to
  check out the mailing list as well.

  cheers

  per

  -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
  Från: Jonathan El-Bizri [mailto:sserendipity@newsfeeds.com]

  Yes. I do this. In fact, you may want to check out the looper's delight page
  and mailing list. Everyone there does almost nothing else.

  http://www.loopers-delight.com/


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PB,
A company called Electrix has a new thingy out called
the Looper that does all the stuff you want, including
I think the footswitch thing. They make some other
pretty cool stuff like the MO-FX and the Filter
Factory too. Very affordable.
BarryM

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Hi Barry,

Thanks a lot. You must mean "the Repeater", their latest looper. I was lucky to arrange with the Swedish import group to borrow a Repeater for testing and writing a magazine review on it. I've been reading a lot about Repeater and it looks extremely cool to me.
 
Regards

PB 


  PB,
  A company called Electrix has a new thingy out called
  the Looper that does all the stuff you want, including
  I think the footswitch thing. They make some other
  pretty cool stuff like the MO-FX and the Filter
  Factory too. Very affordable.
  BarryM

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Yea,Yea, That's the ticket - "Repeater" - sounds like
a six gun, huh?
BarryM

--- Per Boysen <per@...> wrote:
> Hi Barry,
> 
> Thanks a lot. You must mean "the Repeater", their
> latest looper. I was lucky to arrange with the
> Swedish import group to borrow a Repeater for
> testing and writing a magazine review on it. I've
> been reading a lot about Repeater and it looks
> extremely cool to me.
>  
> Regards
> 
> PB 
> 
> 
>   PB,
>   A company called Electrix has a new thingy out
> called
>   the Looper that does all the stuff you want,
> including
>   I think the footswitch thing. They make some other
>   pretty cool stuff like the MO-FX and the Filter
>   Factory too. Very affordable.
>   BarryM
> 
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--- In logic-ot@y..., Barry Michael <dzogchen2002@y...> wrote:
> Yea,Yea, That's the ticket - "Repeater" - sounds like
> a six gun, huh?
> BarryM

Maybe George "Dubya" Bush likes this one too, :-).
Gun lobby 'n stuff?
Yoonchi.