The Logic Off Topic list

The History channel just ran an hour show about Hirohito last week - he 
had been largely a figurehead - not unlike the Queen of England. Tojo and 
other military shoguns were running the country. AFTER the second atomic 
blast at Nagasaki, they still wanted to fight to the last man (or woman 
or child). It was only at that point that Hirohito stepped and actually 
took charge and said enough is enough. 

Look at Okinawa - roughly 6,000 Americans died, 30,000 Japanese soldiers, 
and 150,000 Japanese civilians - mostly by suicide or at the hands of 
Japanese army doing them a favor. THe Japanese people knew an invasion 
was imminent. Did anyone protest the war, or resist the training to fight 
spears against guns? Most of them would have died without complaint.

When you have people with that level of devotion, do you really think 
they will surrender simply because they've had some set backs in the war?

Look at North Korea now. They have supposedly had millions die of 
starvation, and yet they keep developing missiles and offensive weapons. 
In the last week they finally started talking peace - after 51 years of 
hostility. 

>> If they weren't willing to surrender even AFTER two atomic bomb attacks
>> an the firebombing of Tokyo, do you really think they would just
>> surrender on their own?
>>
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>Um, they were willing to surrender after two atomic bombs and the
>firebombing of Tokyo - because they did - ???????  Of course you may be
>right that they were unwilling to surrender after one atomic bomb and the
>firebombing of Tokyo.  We will never know.