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Some body said:-

"If it's only in Spanish it can't have been very important!!"

somebody else said

"And since the above comment isn't in Hungarian, it can't be
that important either."

and ......if it aint in Chinese, then thats another ~1,200,000,000 people
that wont understand it......

"lets keep this off topic, and not get too hung up on the "Politically
correct 90's S\ufffd!t&"

whats the point? He was only joking................. :-) ........ all
nations have little jokey jibes about each others customs and culture, for
99.99% of people , they dont really mean it,
(just make sure you dont vote for the 0.01% who do)

I'm sure Phil is a nice bloke, he often makes slightly contoversial jokes on
this list.

 ........personally, I think Spain and Hungary are both great countries with
great people, I expect they make jokes about the English or the Americans as
well........and I love both the UK and USA, for the record..


Thank God the thread about Mac vs PC in Hong Kong studios (or wherever it
was) didnt lead to another flame war.

When is my Gold update going to arrive Sound Technology PLC?

peace to all, and for heavens sake, if you cant laugh about it, it just aint
worth it..........

Cheers

John

Groovey band website
http://www.grooveyband.co.uk/

mail to : chickenjohn@...

John Matthews:
> whats the point? He was only joking................. :-) ........

I'll add this to my substantial collection of similar justifications.
Here's a bunch culled from another controvery on the LUG:

Hendrik Jan Veenstra...
> If you don't like a joke, then simply ignore it...

Mark [something or other]...
> please, I was joking  ...

Yavuz AKYAZICI...
> May be it was just a joke.

Dennis Gunn...
> what is it about feminism that makes women didactic and humor illegal.

The problem with this argument is that humor is NOT harmless.  To give three
examples:

- It can create an atmosphere in which the worst individuals feel
comfortable perpetrating hate crimes.  This is a pervasive problem at all
levels of society for homosexuals.

- It can bog down a target individual in internalized prejudice and
self-doubt.  This remains a classic problem for women.

- It can foster underlying discriminatory practices that the discriminating
individuals are often not even aware of.  Here in the United States,
companies often give their employees "sensitivity training" to prevent
situations in which the company may be held liable for creating a "hostile
work environment."  Any member of any group can run afoul of this problem,
including members of majority groups.

John Matthews again...
> all nations have little jokey jibes about each others customs and culture, for
> 99.99% of people , they dont really mean it,

One time I was eating dinner with an Indian friend at an Indian restaurant
and I made a light-hearted remark about how uncivilized it was to forego
silverware and eat with your bare hands.  I am fortunate that my dinner
companion chose to rebuke my brusque, ethnocentric comment with the same
conciliatory firmness that KA B just exhibited.  I think I can guess how
Phil feels...

> (just make sure you dont vote for the 0.01% who do)

That isn't enough.  Problematic attitudes have to be challenged in everyday
life by ordinary people.
 
> ........personally, I think Spain and Hungary are both great countries with
> great people, I expect they make jokes about the English or the Americans as
> well........

Maybe, but those individuals of the world who strive for a higher standard
don't have to imitate the bad habits of ignorant individuals from other
societies.  I expect that there are lots of people in Spain and Hungary who
cherish the same cosmopolitan ideals that I cherish.

Cheers,

-- Marvin Humphrey
Mastering Engineer and Graphic Designer, emeritus
Mr. Toad's, San Francisco, California, USA
CD design website - http://marvin.mrtoads.com

> Thank God the thread about Mac vs PC in Hong Kong studios (or wherever it
> was) didnt lead to another flame war.

This is the OT list, so I wouldn't moderate such a discussion over here.

> peace to all, and for heavens sake, if you cant laugh about it, it just aint
> worth it..........

Definitely!

Bye,
Joeri
--
Joeri Vankeirsbilck
joeri@...

Belway Productions      -     http://www.belway.com
List-admin   Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

> The problem with this argument is that humor is NOT harmless.

That's what makes it funny.