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Re: [LUG] About OT, was: Getting a PC...goes now to very OT

Re: [LUG] About OT, was: Getting a PC...goes now to very OT

2001-01-09 by achim

Like you said, perhaps the OT list becomes a more interesting list, but on
OT themes. And that´s what it is for.
I don´t talk about the start of an OT theme, it always (hm, nearly always)
starts out of a logic related thing. This is great, and it is what this list
is (as a side-effect) meant to be. I totally agree with you.
But when the OT gets bigger and bigger, I think there should be a point,
when the thread goes over to the OT list. Sadly enough, I got no clue, how
to do it, except forcing people to put the thread to the OT list. But that´s
easily said, I think Joeri got enough stuff to do. Better would be when
people themselfs put the thread over, when they see that they have raised a
OT. Perhaps I add this to my new year´s wishes.

But if you (personally) think we can handle it with page-down, deleting or
in the worst case building filters for the OT related stuff, fine. I,
personally, like the two list model more. I got folders for every list, and
so everything stays in the place where it belongs to. Easy to manage. And
when I check the new mails, I know what waits for me, in a second. I really
enjoy reading the OTs, but I enjoy it more, when I got them in my L-OT
folder. It would save a lot of time for everybody.
Like I said in my first mail, just my opinion. If you think its worthless,
remember page-down.

And just to make it clear, my comment wasn´t meant offensive to anyone on
the list or to the list itself. I know how valuable people like Sascha are,
but what´s wrong with it when a quieter guy sends in a comment? Am I allowed
to? Or do I have to answer a minimum of 200 questions, to throw in my
opinion?

So I cc: this to the OT list and we can discuss this over there (or
privatly), if you like to.

Regards 
Achim
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> Von: "Phil Angus" <phila@hammerplc.com>
> Antworten an: logic-users@egroups.com
> Datum: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:23:13 -0000
> An: logic-users@egroups.com
> Betreff: [LUG]  About OT, was: Getting a PC...
> 
> That's all well and good but then the OT list merely becomes a
> more interesting list than this one, and then you also have the
> problem with synchronizing with two lists. Anyway, I believe most
> people can page-down if it doesn't interest them. I think the list is
> perfect as it is. Logic based which incorporates many topics
> surrounding the use of, the occasional tension with a little bit of
> humour thrown in to keep it light and non 'clicky'. That is why you
> don't get Joeri jumping in at every sniff of OT. There is a difference
> between real worthless OT (like this one!?) and what Sascha and
> other's post. Anyway, without wishing to embarrass Sascha and
> other's, they post so much useful stuff they should be able to do
> what they like occasionally!

RE: [L-OT] Re: [LUG] About OT, was: Getting a PC...goes now to very OT

2001-01-09 by Phil Angus

Hi Achim,

I don't necessarily disagree with a single word you say (hope you follow the
double negative!). It is just a matter of opinion and interpretation. I
agree that some stuff just shouldn't be there in the first place, but
sometimes it's difficult to know where to draw the line. Also, sometimes
people may think that others have had a say so why shouldn't they
contribute, however trivial or OT.

I think overall it's best that everyone accepts OT should be kept to a
minimum and respects that. That way, if everyone gives 90% topic and 10% off
topic then the whole list will maintain that ratio and some sort of
personality. I would hate the list to turn in to a text book. There are a
lot of different personalities on the list from all walks of life and you
wouldn't get to 'know' any of them if they can't occasionally inject some
sort of off topic opinions.

I certainly didn't see or detect any offence in your posting. You are as
entitled to an opinion as anyone else. Likewise, I hope you didn't get that
feeling with mine.

Regards,
Phil
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: achim [mailto:achimlist@...]
> Sent: 09 January 2001 13:17
> To: logic-users@egroups.com
> Cc: Logic Users OT
> Subject: [L-OT] Re: [LUG] About OT, was: Getting a PC...goes now to very
> OT
>
>
> Like you said, perhaps the OT list becomes a more interesting list, but on
> OT themes. And that\ufffds what it is for.
> I don\ufffdt talk about the start of an OT theme, it always (hm, nearly always)
> starts out of a logic related thing. This is great, and it is
> what this list
> is (as a side-effect) meant to be. I totally agree with you.
> But when the OT gets bigger and bigger, I think there should be a point,
> when the thread goes over to the OT list. Sadly enough, I got no clue, how
> to do it, except forcing people to put the thread to the OT list.
> But that\ufffds
> easily said, I think Joeri got enough stuff to do. Better would be when
> people themselfs put the thread over, when they see that they
> have raised a
> OT. Perhaps I add this to my new year\ufffds wishes.
>
> But if you (personally) think we can handle it with page-down, deleting or
> in the worst case building filters for the OT related stuff, fine. I,
> personally, like the two list model more. I got folders for every
> list, and
> so everything stays in the place where it belongs to. Easy to manage. And
> when I check the new mails, I know what waits for me, in a
> second. I really
> enjoy reading the OTs, but I enjoy it more, when I got them in my L-OT
> folder. It would save a lot of time for everybody.
> Like I said in my first mail, just my opinion. If you think its worthless,
> remember page-down.
>
> And just to make it clear, my comment wasn\ufffdt meant offensive to anyone on
> the list or to the list itself. I know how valuable people like
> Sascha are,
> but what\ufffds wrong with it when a quieter guy sends in a comment?
> Am I allowed
> to? Or do I have to answer a minimum of 200 questions, to throw in my
> opinion?
>
> So I cc: this to the OT list and we can discuss this over there (or
> privatly), if you like to.
>
> Regards
> Achim
>
>
> > Von: "Phil Angus" <phila@...>
> > Antworten an: logic-users@egroups.com
> > Datum: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:23:13 -0000
> > An: logic-users@egroups.com
> > Betreff: [LUG]  About OT, was: Getting a PC...
> >
> > That's all well and good but then the OT list merely becomes a
> > more interesting list than this one, and then you also have the
> > problem with synchronizing with two lists. Anyway, I believe most
> > people can page-down if it doesn't interest them. I think the list is
> > perfect as it is. Logic based which incorporates many topics
> > surrounding the use of, the occasional tension with a little bit of
> > humour thrown in to keep it light and non 'clicky'. That is why you
> > don't get Joeri jumping in at every sniff of OT. There is a difference
> > between real worthless OT (like this one!?) and what Sascha and
> > other's post. Anyway, without wishing to embarrass Sascha and
> > other's, they post so much useful stuff they should be able to do
> > what they like occasionally!
>
>
>
>
>

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