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> I was wondering about buying an electronic drum-kit for mye 
> studio. I am not a drummer myself, but I thought it might be 
> alot more fluent to use an e-kit to program all the beats 
> than by "keyboard".
> 
> Can anyone tip me in which direction I should go. I mean, I 
> know about Rolands kits, but are there other, maybe better 
> ones or is Roland kits the way to go?
> 
> And how do they sound? Are they as good as "they" say? I 
> mean, of course it's not the real-ting, but then again what is. ;-)

The Roland V-Drums are awesome. Really. I've heard people
playing convincing trio jazz type stuff on them. But they
are $$$pricey$$$.

I just got rid of my DrumKat and KicKat because I was
always able to get better (although not quicker) results
by programing drums with the mouse. I guess it depends
on how good a drummer you are and what kind of music
you do.

	-smeet

>> I was wondering about buying an electronic drum-kit for mye
>> studio. I am not a drummer myself, but I thought it might be
>> alot more fluent to use an e-kit to program all the beats
>> than by "keyboard".
>>
>> Can anyone tip me in which direction I should go. I mean, I
>> know about Rolands kits, but are there other, maybe better
>> ones or is Roland kits the way to go?
>>
>> And how do they sound? Are they as good as "they" say? I
>> mean, of course it's not the real-ting, but then again what is. ;-)

On Friday, June 20, 2003 6:13 PM, <Sumit Das> wrote:
> The Roland V-Drums are awesome. Really. I've heard people
> playing convincing trio jazz type stuff on them. But they
> are $$$pricey$$$.
>
> I just got rid of my DrumKat and KicKat because I was
> always able to get better (although not quicker) results
> by programing drums with the mouse. I guess it depends
> on how good a drummer you are and what kind of music
> you do.

OK, sounds good! I am thinking about the TD-8K set, which I think is a part
of the V-drum line. The price over here is about $4000,- The TD-10 set is
twice the price though...

I hope it is easier to play the drums (or rather have a drummer play the
beats) than to program by hand with the mouse/keyboard. I find it to be
quite time consuming and perhaps not what I enjoy the most by making music.

It is mainly for pop/rock.

> > I just got rid of my DrumKat and KicKat because I was
> > always able to get better (although not quicker) results
> > by programing drums with the mouse. I guess it depends
> > on how good a drummer you are and what kind of music
> > you do.
>
> I hope it is easier to play the drums (or rather have a 
> drummer play the
> beats) than to program by hand with the mouse/keyboard. I 
> find it to be
> quite time consuming and perhaps not what I enjoy the most by 
> making music.
> 
> It is mainly for pop/rock.

If you have access to good drummers, I think that is a good
way, especially if you want it to sound human. My playing
sounded a little _too_ human. :)  Also I do a lot of very
drum-intensive electronic stuff, and since I'm no Dave Weckl,
I can't pull off physically what I hear in my head, even
at half-tempo.

One thing you might think about is using real miked-up hihat 
and cymbals, I think that would really make the whole set
sound more alive (and feel better too I guess).

	-smeet

> If you have access to good drummers, I think that is a good
> way, especially if you want it to sound human. My playing
> sounded a little _too_ human. :)  Also I do a lot of very
> drum-intensive electronic stuff, and since I'm no Dave Weckl,
> I can't pull off physically what I hear in my head, even
> at half-tempo.

Hehe, I guess that goes for me too. Fortunately I have access to good
drummers though.

> One thing you might think about is using real miked-up hihat
> and cymbals, I think that would really make the whole set
> sound more alive (and feel better too I guess).
>
> -smeet

Just came from the store with a brand new V-drums DT-8K! I'm putting it
together now, but I'm having a hard time figuring it out. What a puzzle!!

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