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2007-12-20 by Roman Pirie
The Apogee Ensemble has 8 in and 8 out digital conversion. Are the extra 4 mic pre's actually an extra 4 A/D's. This would make the Ensemble 12 in, 8 out. It seems a little misleading the way the advertising states it's features. Especially seeing how much money Apogee converters cost. Thanks, Roman.
2007-12-20 by Brian Mikiten
On Dec 20, 2007, at 12:50 AM, Roman Pirie wrote: > The Apogee Ensemble has 8 in and 8 out digital conversion. Are the > extra 4 mic pre's actually an extra 4 A/D's. This would make the > Ensemble 12 in, 8 out. It seems a little misleading the way the > advertising states it's features. Especially seeing how much money > Apogee converters cost. > Thanks, > Roman. Nothing misleading when I read it. The quality is way above most other equipment in that class. Brian
2007-12-20 by Roman Pirie
But you haven't answered my question. Are the extra four pre's A/D converters making the total A/D inputs 12 not just 8?
On 21/12/2007, at 1:43 AM, Brian Mikiten wrote: > > > On Dec 20, 2007, at 12:50 AM, Roman Pirie wrote: > >> The Apogee Ensemble has 8 in and 8 out digital conversion. Are the >> extra 4 mic pre's actually an extra 4 A/D's. This would make the >> Ensemble 12 in, 8 out. It seems a little misleading the way the >> advertising states it's features. Especially seeing how much money >> Apogee converters cost. >> Thanks, >> Roman. > > Nothing misleading when I read it. The quality is way above most other > equipment in that class. > > Brian > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > Logic OT - new web forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L-OT > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-OT/search > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-ot-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
2007-12-21 by Brian Mikiten
On Dec 20, 2007, at 5:05 PM, Roman Pirie wrote: > But you haven't answered my question. Are the extra four pre's A/D > converters making the total A/D inputs 12 not just 8? > On 21/12/2007, at 1:43 AM, Brian Mikiten wrote: > >> >> >> On Dec 20, 2007, at 12:50 AM, Roman Pirie wrote: >> >>> The Apogee Ensemble has 8 in and 8 out digital conversion. Are the >>> extra 4 mic pre's actually an extra 4 A/D's. This would make the >>> Ensemble 12 in, 8 out. It seems a little misleading the way the >>> advertising states it's features. Especially seeing how much money >>> Apogee converters cost. >>> Thanks, >>> Roman. >> >> Nothing misleading when I read it. The quality is way above most >> other >> equipment in that class. >> >> Brian Yes, there are 4 pre inputs with phantom power. From the site: Ensemble features 36 channels of simultaneous audio, including 8 channels of Apogee�s legendary A/D and D/A conversion, 4 transparent, digitally controlled 75db mic preamps, 8 channels of ADAT I/O, 2 channels of S/PDIF coax and optical I/O, and FireWire connectivity to and from the computer The preamps feed the A/D side or you can go direct through the rear channel inputs. Brian
2007-12-21 by Roman Pirie
On 21/12/2007, at 5:16 PM, Brian Mikiten wrote: > > > On Dec 20, 2007, at 5:05 PM, Roman Pirie wrote: > >> But you haven't answered my question. Are the extra four pre's A/D >> converters making the total A/D inputs 12 not just 8? >> On 21/12/2007, at 1:43 AM, Brian Mikiten wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 20, 2007, at 12:50 AM, Roman Pirie wrote: >>> >>>> The Apogee Ensemble has 8 in and 8 out digital conversion. Are the >>>> extra 4 mic pre's actually an extra 4 A/D's. This would make the >>>> Ensemble 12 in, 8 out. It seems a little misleading the way the >>>> advertising states it's features. Especially seeing how much money >>>> Apogee converters cost. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Roman. >>> >>> Nothing misleading when I read it. The quality is way above most >>> other >>> equipment in that class. >>> >>> Brian > > > Yes, there are 4 pre inputs with phantom power. From the site: > > Ensemble features 36 channels of simultaneous audio, including 8 > channels of Apogees legendary A/D and D/A conversion, 4 transparent, > digitally controlled 75db mic preamps, 8 channels of ADAT I/O, 2 > channels of S/PDIF coax and optical I/O, and FireWire connectivity to > and from the computer > > The preamps feed the A/D side or you can go direct through the rear > channel inputs. > > Brian > Still slightly ambiguous. So you are saying that the 4 mic pre's are not an additional 4 A/D converters?
2007-12-21 by Brian Mikiten
On Dec 21, 2007, at 1:37 AM, Roman Pirie wrote: > > On 21/12/2007, at 5:16 PM, Brian Mikiten wrote: > >> >> >> On Dec 20, 2007, at 5:05 PM, Roman Pirie wrote: >> >>> But you haven't answered my question. Are the extra four pre's A/D >>> converters making the total A/D inputs 12 not just 8? >>> On 21/12/2007, at 1:43 AM, Brian Mikiten wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 20, 2007, at 12:50 AM, Roman Pirie wrote: >>>> >>>>> The Apogee Ensemble has 8 in and 8 out digital conversion. Are the >>>>> extra 4 mic pre's actually an extra 4 A/D's. This would make the >>>>> Ensemble 12 in, 8 out. It seems a little misleading the way the >>>>> advertising states it's features. Especially seeing how much money >>>>> Apogee converters cost. >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Roman. >>>> >>>> Nothing misleading when I read it. The quality is way above most >>>> other >>>> equipment in that class. >>>> >>>> Brian >> >> >> Yes, there are 4 pre inputs with phantom power. From the site: >> >> Ensemble features 36 channels of simultaneous audio, including 8 >> channels of Apogee’s legendary A/D and D/A conversion, 4 transparent, >> digitally controlled 75db mic preamps, 8 channels of ADAT I/O, 2 >> channels of S/PDIF coax and optical I/O, and FireWire connectivity to >> and from the computer >> >> The preamps feed the A/D side or you can go direct through the rear >> channel inputs. >> >> Brian >> > Still slightly ambiguous. So you are saying that the 4 mic pre's are > not an additional 4 A/D converters? It has 8 A/D converters. The other channels are digital (ADAT, etc) and so they don't need converters. Brian
2007-12-22 by Roman Pirie
Are the extra 4 mic pre's A/D converters also? Yes or No?
2007-12-22 by Brian Mikiten
On Dec 21, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Roman Pirie wrote: > Are the extra 4 mic pre's A/D converters also? > Yes or No? Don't believe so. They are one of 8 inputs on the back panel. Brian
2007-12-22 by Andy Hardwake
On Dec 21, 2007, at 4:51 PM, Roman Pirie wrote: > Are the extra 4 mic pre's A/D converters also? > Yes or No? How can you input a signal from ***any*** analog device without a converter? Best, Andy
2007-12-22 by Brian Mikiten
On Dec 21, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Roman Pirie wrote: > Are the extra 4 mic pre's A/D converters also? > Yes or No? > No. The information clearly states 8 independent A/D converters. Brian
2007-12-22 by Brian Mikiten
On Dec 22, 2007, at 6:09 AM, Andy Hardwake wrote: > > On Dec 21, 2007, at 4:51 PM, Roman Pirie wrote: > >> Are the extra 4 mic pre's A/D converters also? >> Yes or No? > > How can you input a signal from ***any*** analog device without a > converter? > > Best, > > Andy If you look at the back of the unit on the we site (or in person) you'll see that the back of it has 8 inputs, 4 of which can be 1/4 or xlr. All 8 go to A/D converters. The ones with the xlr inputs are the preamp inputs. Not to be rude but this is pretty darn clear on the site and I'm sure everyone is a bit bored with the discussion of non- logic issues. Please feel free to contact me off-line if I can help. Brian
2007-12-22 by Andy Hardwake
> > On Dec 22, 2007, at 6:09 AM, Andy Hardwake wrote: >> >> How can you input a signal from ***any*** analog device without a >> converter? >> >> On Dec 22, 2007, at 6:16 AM, Brian Mikiten wrote: >> > If you look at the back of the unit on the we site (or in person) > you'll see that the back of it has 8 inputs, 4 of which can be 1/4 or > xlr. All 8 go to A/D converters. The ones with the xlr inputs are the > preamp inputs. I meant the same by asking this retorical question addressing it to the original poster... > Not to be rude but this is pretty darn clear on the > site and I'm sure everyone is a bit bored with the discussion of non- > logic issues. That was a hidden maning of my post... Pretty rude on my part... Sorry... Best, Andy
2007-12-25 by Pete Thomas
Brian Mikiten wrote: > > On Dec 20, 2007, at 12:50 AM, Roman Pirie wrote: > >> The Apogee Ensemble has 8 in and 8 out digital conversion. Are the >> extra 4 mic pre's actually an extra 4 A/D's. This would make the >> Ensemble 12 in, 8 out. It seems a little misleading the way the >> advertising states it's features. Especially seeing how much money >> Apogee converters cost. >> Thanks, >> Roman. > > Nothing misleading when I read it. The quality is way above most other > equipment in that class. Audio qulity is good when it's working, but it seems to be very buggy. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk Logic Tutorials, Hints, Tips, free Icons, Environments Sample Aid (EXS Instruments for charity)