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Re: trashed 2148 bootloader

2006-02-22 by Jayasooriah

Paul,

I am not if your line of questions will lead to something useful, but let 
me try to explain why what I said is relevant to the very real problems 
people are facing with boot loader.

>Message: 25
>    Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:11:12 -0000
>    From: "Paul Curtis" <plc@...>
>Subject: RE: Re: trashed 2148 bootloader
>
> > I can think of AT29x1024 and AM29x800 variants off the cuff.
>
>To my knowledge, those devices do not have an ARM7 in them.  You have,
>therefore, not answered the question I posed.

I just checked, KEIL tools include these processor in "ARM" category.

> > I am quite  sure people at KEIL can tell you more about what
> > variants there are and how they are programmed.
>
>Why would I want to do that?

I find they have credibility having been in this business for a while now.

>As you are disparaging the LPC2000 for no
>feed sequences, I would like you to provide an example commercial
>(non-automotive) ARM7 with a feed sequence that provides FLASH
>protection.

My aim is to point out problems where they exist without fear or favour.  I 
am sorry you take such a narrow view that exposition of a problem that so 
many are facing tantamount to disparaging.

> > I am not aware there is any formal standard.  My experience
> > has been with  various AMD and Intel flash memories,
> > and I do not recall a single flash memory that did not include
> > feed sequences type of protection in one way or another.
>
>That still does not answer my question.  I see you have sidestepped it
>very neatly, something you disparage others for.  So, it's industry
>standard but there is no standard?
>
>As you have not provided a standard reference, and have simply shirked
>my questions, can I claim that it the LPC2000 series is industry
>standard in not providing flash feed sequences as all other ARM7s do the
>same?

I have explained what I mean by "standards" Paul.  If you do not like it, 
please replace it with "practice" and qualify it with AFAIK.  Happy?

I do not mean to fuel hostility, but why not you tell us from your 
experience which "real" ARM cores you know other than LPC that have no 
means to defend against misbehaving code trashing the flash contents?

Thanks

Jaya 

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