Hi Jaya, I suspect that (for example) LPC2104/5/6 do use identical dies. Devices would be sold as LPC2104 primarily because of defects in the FLASH memory. Philips could see which / how many banks of FLASH are usable, and (by way of undocumented FLASH locations) tell the ARM how to configure the good memory to appear as a particular chip. It would not surprise me if Philips built in 10% - 20% more memory than is needed even for an LPC2106 to allow them to swap out any blocks which do not pass production testing. If demand for the smaller devices picks up, first Philips would start configuring / marking more parts as an LPC2104. But if demand really takes off, they might spend $100000 (that sort of money) on a new mask set that only has enough memory for the LPC2104 to get more chips per wafer. It is possible that you could get an LPC2104 where the other memory is merely turned off. But it might be turned off because it doesn't work. And as soon as you start re-mapping the memory away from what Philips' tests showed to be good, all bets are off. Going from Flash to ROM for the bootloader (without any change in chip area) is probably only one mask change, say $15000. The saving is that the bootloader does not have to be programmed. But you still have to test the entire memory. My suspicion is based only on previous knowlege of the semiconductor industry - I have no evidence for this particular case. And the fact that Philips FLASH includes error-correction cells does not make me think my suspicion any less likely. An interesting article on yeild and quality for semiconductors was written by Bob Pease of National Semiconductor and published in EDN in http://www.elecdesign.com/Articles/ArticleID/6135/6135.html Regards, Danish --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "jayasooriah" <jayasooriah@...> wrote: > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "unity0724" <unity0724@> wrote: > > > > Hello!!.. Bootloader... > > Why not you do something more fantastic for group members here: > > > > =>Something that able is to copy the bootloader from one chip > > to another. > > You could (possibly) use it to upgrade LPC2104 to LPC2106 by simply > copying the boot loader across. Philips will not like this. > > [Newer variants of LPC2104/5/6 are rom'ed, but the same applies to any > other compatible variant that is not rom'ed.]
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Re: Strange problem with the Philips Flash Utility
2006-04-19 by Danish Ali
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