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Re: Which GUI to use for programming/simulating

2004-08-26 by jose_israel_sousa

Thank you Bob,
Anyway, I talked today with a representative of Keil here im Brazil,
and he told me that only upgrading my PK-51 to a new version with 
uVision would not work because only the IDE would have support for 
ARM cpu's but the compiler, assemler and linker would be missing.
I though that as these components are GNU I would be able get it on 
the internet and the system would be complete.
The upgrade for the PK-51 cost US 1,500 and the DK ARM fron Keil 
cost US 3,200, so I think I am going to forget about Keil and try
other options more affordable.

Thanks,
Jose Israel




-- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "lpc2100_fan" <lpc2100_fan@y...> 
wrote:
> Jose,
> 
> if you want to simulate the whole device, not just the instruction
> set, as far as I know, Keil is the only one to support this. Also 
keep
> in mind that switching a tool chain will introduce a learning curve
> for the new tools. 
> Keep in mind that you will get a new compiler from Keil now that 
is no
> longer GNU based. However, the installation I have offers both
> options, the GNU based and the new Keil-owned compiler. Code size 
is
> VERY different because the GNU libraries eat up too much memory.
> If you were satisfied with Keil before, I would stick with it, if 
not,
> the list of GNU based compilers is still in this e-mail thread. I
> heard good things about the Rowley tools, very intuitive.
> 
> Cheers, Bob
> 
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "jose_israel_sousa"
> <jose_israel_sousa@y...> wrote:
> > Hi Markcrow,
> > 
> > I have a Keil PK 51 developer's kit that I've been using for 
develop
> > applications with Dallas DS87C530 ( with a Ceibo DS-51 in-
circuit 
> > Emulator).
> > Now that I intend to start experimenting the LPC 2106 I'll need 
> > a development system for it.
> > I have the option to make an upgrade in my PK 51 to a uVision or 
buy
> > another toolset(maybe Embest ?).
> > May you give some opinion, in witch option is the best.
> > I don't know if while using uVision I will need any hardware to 
> > conect to my development board. Please may you clarify it to me?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Jose Israel (... from Brazil)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "markcrow" <mcrow@p...> wrote:
> > > I have spent considerable time evaluating 11 different IDE/EDE 
> > (GUI) 
> > > toolsets.  Keil, as with similar products, is one of the least 
> > > expensive due to the fact that the compiler and linkers are 
GNU.  
> > > Here's a short GNU-based list of vendors and prices (prices 
> > subject 
> > > to change):
> > > 
> > > Rowley Associates (CrossStudio): $795 + $150 for debugger 
hardware
> > > Embest: $960 (2 licenses) including debugger hardware
> > > Ashling (AsIDE): $1995 including debugger hardware
> > > and Keil (uVision3) as you probably know is $2095 including 
> > debugger.
> > > 
> > > The ARM-based GUIs are 2-5 times any of the above prices.
> > > 
> > > Good luck.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "TobiasRompf" 
<tobiasrompf@y...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hey Folks,
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > what GUIs do you use to develeope your software for the 
LPC2100 
> > > > series?
> > > > 
> > > > I already worked the Keil, but it's a little to expensive 
and 
> > the 
> > > > restricted evaluation version allows to few source-code 
(16kB)
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe ther's a nice Freeware, Open-Source-Project?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Tobias

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