> Have you tried talking to the device over a serial terminal program > like "HyperTerminal" or "TeraTerm" instead of using the ISP utility. > You can start by issuing a "?" and then the part would return > with "Synchronized"...then would follow the ISP procedure. I think > this flow is mentioned in the UM. > By doing this you can get a more detailed picture of why ISP is > failing. If a ISP command fails/succeeds the bootloader always > returns a "code". > Using the code, you can get more information from the part regarding > this problem. I've been using the Bray++ Terminal. http://bray.velenje.cx/avr/terminal/ This comes with DSR/RTS control buttons (Hyterterminal doesn't have this) which I need to run my my board correctly. The synchronising sequence works, but however I haven't yet figured out all the replies for the basic commands: -Read Part ID (J<CR><LF>) returns a 0x00 but no part ID bytes -Read BootPart ID (K<CR><LF>) returns an unknown string > I know this is far stretch but I had similar problem with another > LPC2000 chip and diference was in RS232 chips . STMicro ( MAX3232 > equivalent ) was not the same as MAXIM or TI equivalent. The same > syndrom - ISP would not download code - otherwise all serial > communications were OK. I'm using a MAX3314 rs232 chip to drive both lines. > It is almost certainly the hardware. Check the signal on the RX > line - if it has overshoot or ringing then there will be problems > (maybe the capacitors on the RS232 transceiver are bad?). > > An initial design of mine used a high speed gate in the Rx line > (TinyLogic) between RS232 transceiver and RX pin. I could establish > communication but downloads would always fail - in my case somewhere > in the middle. The fast TinyLogic had spikes at the output > (overshoot) - once I removed this device I never had problems again. It very well could be a hardware problem. Both RX/TX signals look pretty good to me (clean square wave with no spikes or anything). However I notice a -0.1 V to 6V on the T1OUT line, which seems a little trivial to me. Thanks for the replies guys, I think I might be getting closer. Leighton
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Re: Wierd Philips ISP Utility problem
2005-11-01 by Leighton Rowe
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