Lpc2000

Hey folks,

I already worked with microcontrollers, but I always had a 
developement-board for programming my microcontrollers.

Now, I don't have a developement-board and, even if I had, I need to 
know how ISP works.

I have to design an electronic whuch must be "flashable" even if it's 
already assembled.

Can someone give me an schematic which allows me to flash my 
microcontroler with the Philips Flash Utility?

Thanks in advance

Tobias

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "TobiasRompf" <tobiasrompf@...>
To: <lpc2000@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 7:07 PM
Subject: [lpc2000] ISP schematic


> Hey folks,
>
> I already worked with microcontrollers, but I always had a
> developement-board for programming my microcontrollers.
>
> Now, I don't have a developement-board and, even if I had, I need to
> know how ISP works.
>
> I have to design an electronic whuch must be "flashable" even if it's
> already assembled.
>
> Can someone give me an schematic which allows me to flash my
> microcontroler with the Philips Flash Utility?

I've got an LPC210x schematic on my web site. It works with the Philips
utility..

Leon
--
Leon Heller, G1HSM
http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "TobiasRompf" <tobiasrompf@y...> wrote:
> Hey folks,
> 
> I already worked with microcontrollers, but I always had a 
> developement-board for programming my microcontrollers.
> 
> Now, I don't have a developement-board and, even if I had, I need to 
> know how ISP works.
> 
> I have to design an electronic whuch must be "flashable" even if it's 
> already assembled.
> 
> Can someone give me an schematic which allows me to flash my 
> microcontroler with the Philips Flash Utility?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Tobias

Hi Tobias,

take a look at the AN10302 from Philips
www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/applicationnotes/AN10302_3.pdf

I hope that will help you.

Andreas

Hey,

thanks a lot, it really seems to be what I was searching for.

Did I understand it right, that I just have to include the schematic 
from page 5 to my electronic and from now on, I can program my uC 
directly in the system?

Did you already try this?
Is that "all i need"?

Remember, that I'm new in ISP and don't know anything.


... I got an brilliant idea! I don't include these parts into my 
electronic, I'm going to design a special programming-cable. So I 
just have to connect P0.14 and Reset. The background is, that the 
electronic will be produced over 2500 times and if I design a 
programming-cable, I save 2499 times the parts of the programming-
electronic :) Great, huh ? ;)


Thanks for the PDF!

Tobias

At 07:20 PM 7/20/04 +0000, you wrote:
>... I got an brilliant idea! I don't include these parts into my
>electronic, I'm going to design a special programming-cable. So I
>just have to connect P0.14 and Reset.

Something like this?

http://www.aeolusdevelopment.com/Articles/InSystemProgramming.html

Ther are also schematics there and the pinout of the standard ISP header 
(see also the ARM microcontroller Wiki 
http://www.open-research.org.uk/ARMuC/index.cgi?Standard_ISP_Header )

Robert


" 'Freedom' has no meaning of itself.  There are always restrictions,
be they legal, genetic, or physical.  If you don't believe me, try to
chew a radio signal. "

                         Kelvin Throop, III

You saved my day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!

> I've got an LPC210x schematic on my web site. It works with the 
Philips
> utility..
> 
> Leon


Do you talk about the prototyping pcb?
That's pretty nice, but "to much"


Tobias

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "TobiasRompf" <tobiasrompf@y...> wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> thanks a lot, it really seems to be what I was searching for.
> 
> Did I understand it right, that I just have to include the schematic 
> from page 5 to my electronic and from now on, I can program my uC 
> directly in the system?
> 
> Did you already try this?
> Is that "all i need"?
> 
> Remember, that I'm new in ISP and don't know anything.
> 
> 
> ... I got an brilliant idea! I don't include these parts into my 
> electronic, I'm going to design a special programming-cable. So I 
> just have to connect P0.14 and Reset. The background is, that the 
> electronic will be produced over 2500 times and if I design a 
> programming-cable, I save 2499 times the parts of the programming-
> electronic :) Great, huh ? ;)
> 
> 
> Thanks for the PDF!
> 
> Tobias

Hi Tobias,

you also need the TXD0 and RXD0 pins.

Andreas

On ebay.de I found several ISP programmers for Atmel AVR Devices. For 
5 or 6 Euros!

German description:
http://www.a-noack.de/a-noack1-3.html

Is ISP a standard like RS232 or so?

The tool from aeolusdevelopment is nice and not to expensive, but if 
I find an easier solution, why not? 


Thanx



Tobias

At 08:39 PM 7/20/04 +0000, you wrote:
>On ebay.de I found several ISP programmers for Atmel AVR Devices. For
>5 or 6 Euros!
>
>German description:
>http://www.a-noack.de/a-noack1-3.html
>
>Is ISP a standard like RS232 or so?

The AVR devices used a clocked serial interface (as does the PIC I believe).

The Philips ARM LPC use asynchronous signalling (RS232 timing).  As does 
Analog Devices and several others.

I should manage to test the ADI interface shortly.

Robert


" 'Freedom' has no meaning of itself.  There are always restrictions,
be they legal, genetic, or physical.  If you don't believe me, try to
chew a radio signal. "

                         Kelvin Throop, III

> Hi Tobias,
> 
> you also need the TXD0 and RXD0 pins.
> 
> Andreas


That's what I meant! I would have forgotten them!

Thank you

Tobias