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Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self written ISP utility ?

Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self written ISP utility ?

2003-12-25 by capiman@t-online.de

Hello,

i have small problems with ISP Utility (Version 1.0.2, is there a newer one
?).
It tells me from time to time (often...) that communication doesn't work.
When i reset my board and retry it, it works most of the time.

Before i search for errors on my board (which uses a 14,745 MHz and two
56p),
does someone know this error and / or perhaps a solution for it ?

Has someone the source of a self written ISP utility ? Philips ISP utility
doesn't close the COM-Port after flashing, so when i want to communicate via
(the same) COM-Port with my board i always must close the ISP utility, to
close the COM-Port...

Greetings and merry chrismas !

              Martin

Re: Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self written ISP utility ?

2003-12-31 by robertadsett

--- In lpc2100@yahoogroups.com, capiman@t... wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> i have small problems with ISP Utility (Version 1.0.2, is there a
newer one
> ?).
> It tells me from time to time (often...) that communication doesn't
work.
> When i reset my board and retry it, it works most of the time.
I've seen the same issue.  Although I wouldn't say it was often.  I've
also seen it on the Nohau evaluation board.  I've also had it
occaisionally fail mid-download (that may only happen if the download
prog is not in the fore groud, I haven't see it happen often enough to
be sure yet).

> Has someone the source of a self written ISP utility ? Philips ISP
utility
> doesn't close the COM-Port after flashing, so when i want to
communicate via
> (the same) COM-Port with my board i always must close the ISP
utility, to
> close the COM-Port...
It could be worse.  I spent the better part of a day re-booting
because it didn't seem to close the com port at all (download program,
reboot, test, repeat).  I still don't know if it was the ISP utility
or something else.  I didn't find the root cause and it no longer
appears to do it. eeep ;)

Robert

RE: [lpc2100] Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self written ISP utility ?

2004-01-05 by Hugh O'Keeffe

Hi Martin,

 
The LPC2xxx Flash Boot Loader (FBL) firmware appears to have trouble on
certain PCs with the autobaud synchronisation at high baud rates. If you
get comms problems at 115K/bs then lower this value.  Also, reset your
LPC2xxx board every time prior to connection to the PC.
 
The ISP protocol is documented in the LPC2xxx user manual, hence, a
Linux port should be straight forward.
 
Ashling users may use the Ashling FlashISP utility which offers some
advantages over the supplied Philips ISP programmer (more reliable
communications, better sector/programming manangement facilities  etc)
 
 
Hugh @  <http://www.ashling.com/support/lpc2100/>
http://www.ashling.com/support/lpc2100/ 
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-----Original Message-----
From: capiman@... [mailto:capiman@...] 
Sent: 25 December 2003 17:51
To: lpc2100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [lpc2100] Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self
written ISP utility ?



Hello,

i have small problems with ISP Utility (Version 1.0.2, is there a newer
one
?).
It tells me from time to time (often...) that communication doesn't
work.
When i reset my board and retry it, it works most of the time.

Before i search for errors on my board (which uses a 14,745 MHz and two
56p),
does someone know this error and / or perhaps a solution for it ?

Has someone the source of a self written ISP utility ? Philips ISP
utility
doesn't close the COM-Port after flashing, so when i want to communicate
via
(the same) COM-Port with my board i always must close the ISP utility,
to
close the COM-Port...

Greetings and merry chrismas !

              Martin



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Re: [lpc2100] Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self written ISP utility ?

2004-01-05 by Leon Heller

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From: "Hugh O'Keeffe" <hugh.okeeffe@...>
To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:52 AM
Subject: RE: [lpc2100] Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self
written ISP utility ?


>
> Hi Martin,
>
>
> The LPC2xxx Flash Boot Loader (FBL) firmware appears to have trouble on
> certain PCs with the autobaud synchronisation at high baud rates. If you
> get comms problems at 115K/bs then lower this value.  Also, reset your
> LPC2xxx board every time prior to connection to the PC.

I can't get it running any faster than 38.4 k

Leon
--
Leon Heller, G1HSM
Email: aqzf13@...
My low-cost Philips LPC210x ARM development system:
http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller/lpc2104.html

Re: [lpc2100] Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self written ISP utility ?

2004-01-05 by capiman@t-online.de

Hello Leon,

i am using it meanwhile completely with 115200 (using a MAX232 at 5V)
but everytime i want to upload something i restart the ISP utility
completely new.
Since this no errors in transfer.
(But i must say i found a bug in soldering my SUB-D connector. One cable
makes a short when i move position of the connector...)

But of course the left open COM-Port by Philips ISP util makes my thinking
about other ways:
What about a ISP util which uses two more RS232 lines to also control RESET
and enable booting.
So the PC tool itself can reset the LPC210x, switch to boot mode, upload,
and when everything is fine, do a reset again, switch off boot mode and
reset (to start the just developed programm)...

What do you all think about this ? Could be a convenient way...
I think i should start to write an ISP util, if no one else has done it
before (want to avoid duplicate programming, time is rare...)

Greetings,

           Martin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leon Heller" <leon_heller@...>
To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [lpc2100] Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self
written ISP utility ?
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>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hugh O'Keeffe" <hugh.okeeffe@...>
> To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:52 AM
> Subject: RE: [lpc2100] Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self
> written ISP utility ?
>
>
> >
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> >
> > The LPC2xxx Flash Boot Loader (FBL) firmware appears to have trouble on
> > certain PCs with the autobaud synchronisation at high baud rates. If you
> > get comms problems at 115K/bs then lower this value.  Also, reset your
> > LPC2xxx board every time prior to connection to the PC.
>
> I can't get it running any faster than 38.4 k
>
> Leon
> --
> Leon Heller, G1HSM
> Email: aqzf13@...
> My low-cost Philips LPC210x ARM development system:
> http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller/lpc2104.html
>
>
>
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Re: [lpc2100] Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self written ISP utility ?

2004-01-05 by Leon Heller

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From: <capiman@...>
To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [lpc2100] Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self
written ISP utility ?


> Hello Leon,
>
> i am using it meanwhile completely with 115200 (using a MAX232 at 5V)
> but everytime i want to upload something i restart the ISP utility
> completely new.
> Since this no errors in transfer.
> (But i must say i found a bug in soldering my SUB-D connector. One cable
> makes a short when i move position of the connector...)
>
> But of course the left open COM-Port by Philips ISP util makes my thinking
> about other ways:
> What about a ISP util which uses two more RS232 lines to also control
RESET
> and enable booting.
> So the PC tool itself can reset the LPC210x, switch to boot mode, upload,
> and when everything is fine, do a reset again, switch off boot mode and
> reset (to start the just developed programm)...
>
> What do you all think about this ? Could be a convenient way...
> I think i should start to write an ISP util, if no one else has done it
> before (want to avoid duplicate programming, time is rare...)

I'd be inclined to forget about ISP and use JTAG for development. ISP could
still be useful for field upgrades with installed equipment, or the
application could be self-programming with code uploaded via the UART.

Leon
--
Leon Heller, G1HSM
Email: aqzf13@...
My low-cost Philips LPC210x ARM development system:
http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller/lpc2104.html

SV: [lpc2100] Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self written ISP utility ?

2004-01-05 by Lasse Madsen

The automatically switching can be easily achieved by using a couple of
transistors, an RC led that can hold a transistor turned on for approx 5mS
shorting the P0.14 to ground one could tie the RST line to one of the RS232
control signals from the PC and write an ISP program to control the
transistor..

regards
lasse m.

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: capiman@... [mailto:capiman@...]
Sendt: 5. januar 2004 11:12
Til: lpc2100@yahoogroups.com
Emne: Re: [lpc2100] Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self
written ISP utility ?


Hello Leon,

i am using it meanwhile completely with 115200 (using a MAX232 at 5V)
but everytime i want to upload something i restart the ISP utility
completely new.
Since this no errors in transfer.
(But i must say i found a bug in soldering my SUB-D connector. One cable
makes a short when i move position of the connector...)

But of course the left open COM-Port by Philips ISP util makes my thinking
about other ways:
What about a ISP util which uses two more RS232 lines to also control RESET
and enable booting.
So the PC tool itself can reset the LPC210x, switch to boot mode, upload,
and when everything is fine, do a reset again, switch off boot mode and
reset (to start the just developed programm)...

What do you all think about this ? Could be a convenient way...
I think i should start to write an ISP util, if no one else has done it
before (want to avoid duplicate programming, time is rare...)

Greetings,

           Martin
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Leon Heller" <leon_heller@...>
To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [lpc2100] Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self
written ISP utility ?


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hugh O'Keeffe" <hugh.okeeffe@...>
> To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:52 AM
> Subject: RE: [lpc2100] Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self
> written ISP utility ?
>
>
> >
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> >
> > The LPC2xxx Flash Boot Loader (FBL) firmware appears to have trouble on
> > certain PCs with the autobaud synchronisation at high baud rates. If you
> > get comms problems at 115K/bs then lower this value.  Also, reset your
> > LPC2xxx board every time prior to connection to the PC.
>
> I can't get it running any faster than 38.4 k
>
> Leon
> --
> Leon Heller, G1HSM
> Email: aqzf13@...
> My low-cost Philips LPC210x ARM development system:
> http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller/lpc2104.html
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
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>
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>




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Re: [lpc2100] Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self written ISP utility ?

2004-01-05 by capiman@t-online.de

I think you can directly use 2 RS232 lines (ok via MAX232 or equal) to
control both lines.
So your mentioned 5 ms are created by a while loop / timer directly on PC.
No transistors, no RC !

Or have i understand something wrong or overlooked something ?

But i still have the problems of the missing ISP programmel...

Greetings,

          Martin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lasse Madsen" <lm@...>
To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 1:25 PM
Subject: SV: [lpc2100] Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self
written ISP utility ?


> The automatically switching can be easily achieved by using a couple of
> transistors, an RC led that can hold a transistor turned on for approx 5mS
> shorting the P0.14 to ground one could tie the RST line to one of the
RS232
> control signals from the PC and write an ISP program to control the
> transistor..
>
> regards
> lasse m.
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: capiman@... [mailto:capiman@...]
> Sendt: 5. januar 2004 11:12
> Til: lpc2100@yahoogroups.com
> Emne: Re: [lpc2100] Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self
> written ISP utility ?
>
>
> Hello Leon,
>
> i am using it meanwhile completely with 115200 (using a MAX232 at 5V)
> but everytime i want to upload something i restart the ISP utility
> completely new.
> Since this no errors in transfer.
> (But i must say i found a bug in soldering my SUB-D connector. One cable
> makes a short when i move position of the connector...)
>
> But of course the left open COM-Port by Philips ISP util makes my thinking
> about other ways:
> What about a ISP util which uses two more RS232 lines to also control
RESET
> and enable booting.
> So the PC tool itself can reset the LPC210x, switch to boot mode, upload,
> and when everything is fine, do a reset again, switch off boot mode and
> reset (to start the just developed programm)...
>
> What do you all think about this ? Could be a convenient way...
> I think i should start to write an ISP util, if no one else has done it
> before (want to avoid duplicate programming, time is rare...)
>
> Greetings,
>
>            Martin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leon Heller" <leon_heller@...>
> To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [lpc2100] Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions / self
> written ISP utility ?
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hugh O'Keeffe" <hugh.okeeffe@...>
> > To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:52 AM
> > Subject: RE: [lpc2100] Small Problems with ISP Utility -> Solutions /
self
> > written ISP utility ?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Martin,
> > >
> > >
> > > The LPC2xxx Flash Boot Loader (FBL) firmware appears to have trouble
on
> > > certain PCs with the autobaud synchronisation at high baud rates. If
you
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > > get comms problems at 115K/bs then lower this value.  Also, reset your
> > > LPC2xxx board every time prior to connection to the PC.
> >
> > I can't get it running any faster than 38.4 k
> >
> > Leon
> > --
> > Leon Heller, G1HSM
> > Email: aqzf13@...
> > My low-cost Philips LPC210x ARM development system:
> > http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller/lpc2104.html
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
>
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