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I am using IAR WARM Compiler with USB Dongle Lock.  

 

About 2/3rds of the time, the compiler just hangs for several seconds before
beginning to compile. Other times, it starts instantaneously.  

 

I am guessing that this has something to do with the license dongle.  

 

Are others having the same delay?  Are there any work-arounds.  This is very
annoying.


Thanks


Dan

 



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At 08:57 PM 3/22/05 -0800, Dan Beadle wrote:
>I am using IAR WARM Compiler with USB Dongle Lock.
>
>About 2/3rds of the time, the compiler just hangs for several seconds before
>beginning to compile. Other times, it starts instantaneously.
>
>I am guessing that this has something to do with the license dongle.
>
>Are others having the same delay?  Are there any work-arounds.  This is very
>annoying.

Get a new compiler?

I'm half way serious (at least).  Especially if there are quality 
alternatives having a dongle disqualifies a compiler for serious use as far 
as I'm concerned.

Robert

" 'Freedom' has no meaning of itself.  There are always restrictions,   be 
they legal, genetic, or physical.  If you don't believe me, try to chew a 
radio signal. "  -- Kelvin Throop, III
http://www.aeolusdevelopment.com/

I agree with Robert. I am using an IAR and my system does not use a
dongle. Talk to IAR technical or sales about getting the none dongle
version or upgrade.

regards,
Charles

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, Robert Adsett <subscriptions@a...> wrote:
> At 08:57 PM 3/22/05 -0800, Dan Beadle wrote:
> >I am using IAR WARM Compiler with USB Dongle Lock.
> >
> >About 2/3rds of the time, the compiler just hangs for several
seconds before
> >beginning to compile. Other times, it starts instantaneously.
> >
> >I am guessing that this has something to do with the license dongle.
> >
> >Are others having the same delay?  Are there any work-arounds. 
This is very
> >annoying.
> 
> Get a new compiler?
> 
> I'm half way serious (at least).  Especially if there are quality 
> alternatives having a dongle disqualifies a compiler for serious use
as far 
> as I'm concerned.
> 
> Robert
> 
> " 'Freedom' has no meaning of itself.  There are always
restrictions,   be 
> they legal, genetic, or physical.  If you don't believe me, try to
chew a 
> radio signal. "  -- Kelvin Throop, III
> http://www.aeolusdevelopment.com/

On 23 Mar 2005 at 8:44, Robert Adsett wrote:

> 
> At 08:57 PM 3/22/05 -0800, Dan Beadle wrote:
> >I am using IAR WARM Compiler with USB Dongle Lock.
> >
> >About 2/3rds of the time, the compiler just hangs for several seconds
> >before beginning to compile. Other times, it starts instantaneously.
> >
> >I am guessing that this has something to do with the license dongle.
> >
> >Are others having the same delay?  Are there any work-arounds.  This
> >is very annoying.
> 
> Get a new compiler?
> 
> I'm half way serious (at least).  Especially if there are quality
> alternatives having a dongle disqualifies a compiler for serious use
> as far as I'm concerned.

I agree. We had an IAR 8051 C Compiler, which used a parallel port dongle.
When after a few years we had to update some old software which was written
for this compiler, the dongle would not work on our new maschines. IAR was
less than helpful, and in the end we had to dig out an old 33MHz 486 machine
to get the compiler to work. We learnt our lesson then -  No development tools
that need a dongle or any other sort of protection that ties it to a specific component
of a machine. 

Regards
   Anton Erasmus
-- 
A J Erasmus

Hi Anton,

I'm an ex-IAR user myself.

> I agree. We had an IAR 8051 C Compiler, which used a parallel port dongle.
> When after a few years we had to update some old software which was written
> for this compiler, the dongle would not work on our new maschines. IAR was
> less than helpful, and in the end we had to dig out an old 33MHz 486 machine
> to get the compiler to work. We learnt our lesson then -  No development tools
> that need a dongle or any other sort of protection that ties it to a specific component
> of a machine. 

Most IAR dongles I had dealt with so far (4) never ran on a decent newer machine.
The dongle utility never worked properly, the IAR disty voluteered that.
However, the magic :
SET SSI_ACT = 100,100,100 in autoexec.bat always fixed it to "see" the dongle.

But when they changed to these grey dongles (Sentinel ?), combined with
a page-long *extra* activation key, things got a bit rich.
I had huge probelms on MSP430 with that new license scheme, and it never got
sorted out.
The green colour "Activator" dongles always had worked fine.
With MSP430 Sentinel, at regular occasions an attempt to compile (F9) would paralyse 
the PCs for at least a minute, and then a cryptic license error was issued.
Had to do with the JTAG thru LPT1 - removing (via switch box) dongle from LPT1, 
and reconnecting would always fix it (plus the JTAG would have frozen in the interim too,
target could not run)

It's like with cars : you buy a cheap bomb, and it breaks - big deal ...
But when you buy a fairly high-end car, pay good $$$, and it constantly breaks down,
you literally want to BOOT it a lot :-)

-- Kris


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Or that no software from unhelpful vendor....

At 06:51 AM 3/23/2005, Anton Erasmus wrote:
>...
>I agree. We had an IAR 8051 C Compiler, which used a parallel port dongle.
>When after a few years we had to update some old software which was written
>for this compiler, the dongle would not work on our new maschines. IAR was
>less than helpful, and in the end we had to dig out an old 33MHz 486 machine
>to get the compiler to work. We learnt our lesson then -  No development tools
>that need a dongle or any other sort of protection that ties it to a 
>specific component
>of a machine.
>
>Regards
>    Anton Erasmus
>--
>A J Erasmus

// richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, please 
use richard at imagecraft.com)

On 23 Mar 2005 at 7:57, Richard wrote:

> 
> Or that no software from unhelpful vendor....

The system you use, is as far as I can see, the best compromise 
reached in protecting software, and still make it easy to use.
The fact that the license can be moved between machines, by 
the user without having to cantact you is a life saver. If a USB
flash stick could be used, in stead of a floppy, it would be
nice. (Many of our newest machines does not have a floppy drive anymore)
The only problem I have found, was that your software does not warn
one, when one uninstalls it, without having moved the license to a
floppy.

Regards
   Anton Erasmus

 

 
> At 06:51 AM 3/23/2005, Anton Erasmus wrote:
> >...
> >I agree. We had an IAR 8051 C Compiler, which used a parallel port
> >dongle. When after a few years we had to update some old software
> >which was written for this compiler, the dongle would not work on our
> >new maschines. IAR was less than helpful, and in the end we had to
> >dig out an old 33MHz 486 machine to get the compiler to work. We
> >learnt our lesson then -  No development tools that need a dongle or
> >any other sort of protection that ties it to a specific component of
> >a machine.
> >
> >Regards
> >    Anton Erasmus
> >--
> >A J Erasmus
> 
> // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly,
> please use richard at imagecraft.com) 
-- 
A J Erasmus

I have to confess that V7 licensing no longer allows transferring via 
floppy disk. For a variety of reasons, we HAVE to switch licensing engine, 
and this one is a lot better in most other aspects. Sorry about that...

At 10:20 AM 3/23/2005, Anton Erasmus wrote:

> > Or that no software from unhelpful vendor....
>
>The system you use, is as far as I can see, the best compromise
>reached in protecting software, and still make it easy to use.
>The fact that the license can be moved between machines, by
>the user without having to cantact you is a life saver. If a USB
>flash stick could be used, in stead of a floppy, it would be
>nice. (Many of our newest machines does not have a floppy drive anymore)
>The only problem I have found, was that your software does not warn
>one, when one uninstalls it, without having moved the license to a
>floppy.
>
>

// richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, please 
use richard at imagecraft.com)

We have the same problem.  I don't know of any fix but it hasn't 
been anything more than a mild inconvenience.  The IAR dongle is an 
option, which we chose so that we could easily move between 
machines.  The compiler is excellent and the install and basic 
operation has been problem free.  IAR for us has excellent tech 
support.
James

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Beadle" <dan.beadle@i...> wrote:
> I am using IAR WARM Compiler with USB Dongle Lock.  
> 
>  
> 
> About 2/3rds of the time, the compiler just hangs for several 
seconds before
> beginning to compile. Other times, it starts instantaneously.  
> 
>  
> 
> I am guessing that this has something to do with the license 
dongle.  
> 
>  
> 
> Are others having the same delay?  Are there any work-arounds.  
This is very

> annoying.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Tech support quality is going to depend on the idividual you happen 
to get on the other end.  We paid a lot of money for a couple seats 
of a "established" compiler/IDE producer.  I have always thought 
highly of their product support but recently had to deal with one 
individual who was a real SOB.  We solved one problem on our own and 
with some help from a forum after this "tech support Person" 
reccomended that we hire a consultant!  On the other hand I have had 
good support from another individual at the same company.

Richard

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "jamesasteres" <jamesasteres@y...> 
wrote:
> 
> We have the same problem.  I don't know of any fix but it hasn't 
> been anything more than a mild inconvenience.  The IAR dongle is 
an 
> option, which we chose so that we could easily move between 
> machines.  The compiler is excellent and the install and basic 
> operation has been problem free.  IAR for us has excellent tech 
> support.
> James
> 
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Beadle" <dan.beadle@i...> 
wrote:

> > I am using IAR WARM Compiler with USB Dongle Lock.  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > About 2/3rds of the time, the compiler just hangs for several 
> seconds before
> > beginning to compile. Other times, it starts instantaneously.  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I am guessing that this has something to do with the license 
> dongle.  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Are others having the same delay?  Are there any work-arounds.  
> This is very
> > annoying.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > 
> > Dan
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
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On March 23, IAR posted some stuff realted to dongle problems.

See Technical Note 72867 on their web site (Tehnical Support - 
Embedded Workbench.)


--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Beadle" <dan.beadle@i...> wrote:
> I am using IAR WARM Compiler with USB Dongle Lock.  
> 
>  
> 
> About 2/3rds of the time, the compiler just hangs for several 
seconds before
> beginning to compile. Other times, it starts instantaneously.  
> 
>  
> 
> I am guessing that this has something to do with the license 
dongle.  
> 
>  
> 
> Are others having the same delay?  Are there any work-arounds.  
This is very

> annoying.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
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