Lpc2000

Hello,

has someone the Keil Evalboard MCB2100 ?

On the picture on the website i see a small printing "MCB2114", in the
technical section i see a LPC2129, what is correct ?
I thought i have somewhere read that the eval board contains a
Ethernet-Controller (CAN is mentioned), but can't find anything on thei
webseite. Also look on the picture i can't see any chip for it.

Do i really need a special cable (i think via USB) to load software into the
flash ? Or can i still do it via serial cable ?

If it doesn't contain a Ethernet-Controller, does someone know of any board
with one ?

Regards,

         Martin

capiman@... wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> has someone the Keil Evalboard MCB2100 ?

Me!

> On the picture on the website i see a small printing "MCB2114", in the
> technical section i see a LPC2129, what is correct ?

The chip on board is an LPC2129, yes.

> I thought i have somewhere read that the eval board contains a
> Ethernet-Controller (CAN is mentioned), but can't find anything on thei
> webseite. Also look on the picture i can't see any chip for it.

Aye. The page used to say that it had a CS8900A on board, but now it 
doesn't say that any more. I emailled them and got back:

"This information was wrong.  The page was at that point in
time not published.  Also it is impossible, since the LPC2129
does not have off-chip BUS so you cannot connect external devices
like a CS8900A to it."

Luckily, I wasn't actually buying it for the CS8900A, but I still feel 
slightly miffed about it. On principle. The page *was* published, in 
that my supplier gave me the URL of it when I was deciding what to buy.

CAN is not Ethernet, but it is a network interface of sorts. There are 
two CAN ports on the thing, inbuilt peripherals of the LPC2129 that 
LPC2106es lack.

> Do i really need a special cable (i think via USB) to load software into the
> flash ? Or can i still do it via serial cable ?

No. I've not got the JTAG programmer myself, I'm going to do it via 
RS232 only. Alas, I've not gotten quite the correct cable (I have a 9 
pin male plug but it doesn't physically fit onto the board since both 
tbe board and my plug have got little hex nut things on both sides of 
the socket, and I can't remove them with a reasonable amount of force), 
so I need to wait until I can go to PC World to start prorgramming it 
for real! As it stands it comes preloaded with a test program that 
flashes the LEDs in sequence, at a rate controlled by the analogue input 
(potentiometer at top left), so I know it works.

It has the reset and ISP-control lines wired up to the serial port, as 
some people mentioned earlier on this thread, I note.

If you visit:

http://www.keil-compiler.de/MCB2100/

...you can download the manual as a .CHM file, which Windows Help will 
display for you.

I'll do a fuller write up when I get time, and make a page on the Wiki 
with my experiences of the board!

> If it doesn't contain a Ethernet-Controller, does someone know of any board
> with one ?
>

I'm tempted to add a CS8900A via the GPIO pins, just because that guy 
said it wasn't possible.

> 
>          Martin
> 

ABS

I'm in the process of building up the first pass of
my eval board which has a cs8900 on it.  The processor
is the LPC2214 (external bus).  Because that part only
has 16K of internal RAM, I have added 256KB/1MB of 32-bit
SRAM to the board.  The board also has a compact flash
connector (memory & i/o modes) and a battery backed RTC
in addition to the regular stuff.  Once debugged, etc.
the board should be able to support RTEMS and eCOS though
I do not have any immediate plans to port either.  If there
is sufficient interest, I will be making the boards available
for purchase at a (hopefully) reasonable price.

Regards
-Bill Knight
R O SoftWare

> has someone the Keil Evalboard MCB2100 ?

Yes - several (we use them for teaching embedded systems).
 
> On the picture on the website i see a small 
> printing "MCB2114", in the
> technical section i see a LPC2129, what is correct ?

The boards I have contain LPC2129s.

> I thought i have somewhere read that the eval board
> contains a
> Ethernet-Controller (CAN is mentioned), but can't find 

These boards support CAN (which is useful for what we do).
 
> Do i really need a special cable (i think via USB) 
> to load software into the
> flash ? Or can i still do it via serial cable ?

These boards can be programmed using the serial interface without any problems (we use the Philips ISP software).

Michael.

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Alaric B Snell" <alaric@...>
To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [lpc2100] Keil Evalboard MCB2100


> capiman@... wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > has someone the Keil Evalboard MCB2100 ?
>
> Me!
>
> > On the picture on the website i see a small printing "MCB2114", in the
> > technical section i see a LPC2129, what is correct ?
>
> The chip on board is an LPC2129, yes.
>
> > I thought i have somewhere read that the eval board contains a
> > Ethernet-Controller (CAN is mentioned), but can't find anything on thei
> > webseite. Also look on the picture i can't see any chip for it.
>
> Aye. The page used to say that it had a CS8900A on board, but now it
> doesn't say that any more. I emailled them and got back:
>
> "This information was wrong.  The page was at that point in
> time not published.  Also it is impossible, since the LPC2129
> does not have off-chip BUS so you cannot connect external devices
> like a CS8900A to it."

It should be possible to connect a CS8900A to the LPC2129 by using I/Os to
simulate the ISA interface.

Leon
--
Leon Heller, G1HSM
Email: aqzf13@...
My low-cost Philips LPC210x ARM development system:
http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller/lpc2104.html

Does anyone know of an eval board in existance/planned with
ADC/CAN/Ethernet.  This sound like an excellent table for the Wiki site that
has board and chip varieties and features on.  I find the Phillips website
very frustrating to evaluate what type of chips have been released.

Bill, I just read your email on the board you're designing but will post
this anyway in a quest to get a table started on the Wiki site


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leon Heller" <leon_heller@...>
To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: [lpc2100] Keil Evalboard MCB2100


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alaric B Snell" <alaric@...>
> To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [lpc2100] Keil Evalboard MCB2100
>
>
> > capiman@... wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > has someone the Keil Evalboard MCB2100 ?
> >
> > Me!
> >
> > > On the picture on the website i see a small printing "MCB2114", in the
> > > technical section i see a LPC2129, what is correct ?
> >
> > The chip on board is an LPC2129, yes.
> >
> > > I thought i have somewhere read that the eval board contains a
> > > Ethernet-Controller (CAN is mentioned), but can't find anything on
thei

> > > webseite. Also look on the picture i can't see any chip for it.
> >
> > Aye. The page used to say that it had a CS8900A on board, but now it
> > doesn't say that any more. I emailled them and got back:
> >
> > "This information was wrong.  The page was at that point in
> > time not published.  Also it is impossible, since the LPC2129
> > does not have off-chip BUS so you cannot connect external devices
> > like a CS8900A to it."
>
> It should be possible to connect a CS8900A to the LPC2129 by using I/Os to
> simulate the ISA interface.
>
> Leon
> --
> Leon Heller, G1HSM
> Email: aqzf13@...
> My low-cost Philips LPC210x ARM development system:
> http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller/lpc2104.html
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

--- In lpc2100@yahoogroups.com, capiman@t... wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> has someone the Keil Evalboard MCB2100 ?
> 
> On the picture on the website i see a small printing "MCB2114", in the
> technical section i see a LPC2129, what is correct ?
> I thought i have somewhere read that the eval board contains a
> Ethernet-Controller (CAN is mentioned), but can't find anything on thei
> webseite. Also look on the picture i can't see any chip for it.
> 
> Do i really need a special cable (i think via USB) to load software
into the
> flash ? Or can i still do it via serial cable ?
> 
> If it doesn't contain a Ethernet-Controller, does someone know of
any board
> with one ?
> 
> Regards,
> 
>          Martin
Hi,

I have a Keil evaluation board and the one that has printed MCB2114
must be an earlier version (I guess prototype). It says now MCB2100
and because there is no LPC2100 device (it is a family name), my
conclusion is it can be used for several different devices. If you
look at the pinout, the LPC2114 / LPC2124 / 2119 / 2129 are identical
with the exception of the 2 CAN interfaces. For somebody who wants to
evaluate the LPC2114, the LPC2129 seems to be a REAL superset, so not
a problem to use it. 

Regarding your question, external Ethernet Controller, not on this
board. It is a simple board with 2 CAN transceivers and a
potentiometer that can be hooked up with the ADC input. It is square
with a blue silk screen and a tiny prototype area. 

It is no online in the Philips tools list:
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/markets/mms/products/microcontrollers/support/development_tools/tools_by_family/arm7tdmi/index.html
Select Development boards and scroll down a bit. According to that
site, the leadtime is 72h!

Oh, almost forgot the question about the cable, a serial cable will do
the job, actually there is no USB interface on the board. Optionally
the is supposed to be a JTAG debugger version (the Keil website calls
it ULINK) that will work with the board. 

Will anybody be at the Embedded World show in Nuremberg, Germany next
week? Got a hint that there will be a lot of new announcements
regarding the LPC2100 family. So who ever finds the news first, let
the group know what kind of devices are now official.

Cheers, Bob.
btw. I will be at the show, checking Philips, Keil, Ashling, Hitex,
Atmel and OKI. May the best man (chip) win :-)

lpc2100_fan wrote:

> Regarding your question, external Ethernet Controller, not on this
> board. It is a simple board with 2 CAN transceivers and a
> potentiometer that can be hooked up with the ADC input. It is square
> with a blue silk screen and a tiny prototype area. 

I've done my little writeup at:

http://www.open-research.org.uk/ARMuC/index.cgi?MCB2100

> Will anybody be at the Embedded World show in Nuremberg, Germany next
> week? Got a hint that there will be a lot of new announcements
> regarding the LPC2100 family. So who ever finds the news first, let
> the group know what kind of devices are now official.

Alas, not me!

> Cheers, Bob.

ABS

martin de lange wrote:
> Does anyone know of an eval board in existance/planned with
> ADC/CAN/Ethernet.  This sound like an excellent table for the Wiki site that
> has board and chip varieties and features on.  I find the Phillips website
> very frustrating to evaluate what type of chips have been released.

I'll see what I can do!

ABS