Thanks Crow for the excellent details. Let me see of I got it: The freq and res pots affect their respective parameters by 0 to 80%. The 1V/Oct and Res inputs affect both filters respective parameters by 0 to 20%. One other thing, what is the useable input voltage ranges for the Res In and 1V/Oct In jacks? George ----- Original Message ----- From: The Old Crow <oldcrow@...> To: motm group <motm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM-480 resonance > On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 groovyshaman@... wrote: > > > I just finished listening to the MOTM-480 sound bites - wow! (I know, a > > week late and a dollar short.) Lots of nice resonance, nearly self-osc. I > > know Paul has indicated this module will not self-oscillate, but it sounds > > nearly there. I've never had the chance to play with a CS-80, alas, but I > > have read that its filter does not self-osc. So I'm wondering, does the 480 > > closely match the resonance capability of the CS-80, or are we getting more > > res for "free"? > > The filters can't resonate as they have feedback limiting components in > the circuit specifically to prevent oscillation. I suppose one could > build the circuit board without the six feedback limiting networks around > the six 'cells' (four filter stages, two resonance control stages). > Someone once asked if a "self-osc/non-self-osc" switchable mode could be > done: in theory it is possible, but in practice it would be cumbersome as > all six networks would have to be disconnected, and the resulting extra > circuit traces to cell nodes from analog switches might start to affect > the response. > > Since the actual CS-80 filter circuits are linear CV response and MOTM > is exponential response, changes were made to the CV front end so as to > provide expo response for the frequencies and resonances. On a > CS-50/60/80, there are separate frequency and resonance controls for the > high-pass and low-pass filters. There are also "global" frequency (called > 'brightness' on a CS instrument) and resonance controls on the CS > machines. These are provided for on the MOTM-480 as the 1V/Oct input that > affects both the HP and LP filters simultaneously and the resonance CV > input affects both HP and LP resonance simultaneously. > > The CS VCF filter resonance controls provide about 80% of the resonance > range for the HP and LP filters. On a CS machine, setting these to > maximum and then using the global resonance control allows for the > remaining 20% of resonance range to be used. On the MOTM-480, setting the > individual resonance controls to maximum provides the 80%-of-range, and > applying some (positive) control voltage to the resonance CV jack provides > the remaining 20%. I think the maximum "Q factor" is 15 or so (and the > minimum around 0.5). > > The MOTM-480 resonance is the same as the CS-80's. Just try the "funky" > tone selectors (that is, presets literally labeled 'Funky 1' to 'Funky > 4') on a CS-80. Or, listen to the Vangelis track "Chung Kuo" from the > China album at around 1 minute into the piece--the low-frequency notes are > all done using one of the "funky" presets with aftertouch control of > filter frequency. In fact, listen to the entire track for a > nearly-all-CS80 experience. > > > Crow > /**/
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Re: [motm] MOTM-480 resonance
2002-07-14 by groovyshaman@snet.net
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