It's not that I think additive synthesis is some new great idea. I'm well aware of the history and as I said I do own a Kawai. I'm a control freak. I like having control over as many parameters of a sound as possible, if for no other reason than asking the question of what happens when I do this? And being able to answer it. To achieve that goal, it would be musically useful to be able to generate a Fourier Series with complete control over the amplitude of each harmonic over time, which you certainly cannot do at present with the MOTM. Having harmonically rich waveforms that can be modified with subtractive synthesis is not the same thing. In addition with the design I am contemplating you would be able to individually exert real-time control over the phase relationship of the harmonics and would even be able to detune individual harmonics for more percussive sounds. All under voltage control. As Paul S. pointed out, my design is in fact a modified version of his cloud generator. (I would say great minds think alike, but I really don't put myself in the same class as Paul S. when it comes to design. Although we both are EEs he has made his career out of it whereas I have diverted into other pursuits.) I'd also like to build an implementation of the DX7 in modular form, as well as a completely modular vocoder, and I've been after Stooge Moe for some time to get super-moe out there. I've told Paul S. that the 450 should have individual outputs for each bank. Why? Because I am a control freak. I want to be able to experiment with my modular. That's a big part of the reason for having one. I want to be able to ask what if? And find the answer. -----Original Message----- From: Roger Rossen [mailto:mididood@...] Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:01 AM To: motm@yahoogroups.com Subject: [motm] Re: Additive Synth Tools > ----- Original Message ----- > From: paulhaneberg <phaneber@o...> > I have also been contemplating trying to build a MOTM style Fourier series generator. This is a big design project, so I'm asking if anyone has any ideas to let me know. I'd rather not reinvent the wheel. Yet you will be doing so... Just my input from some experience - you will be definitely reinventing the wheel (but please don't take this as a reason to stop the pursuit on what your looking for) Additive synthesis has existed for quite awhile now- especially in the academic sector - 'modulars' or software based ones for that matter have been around for quite awhile. I've played one down at Univ of IL back in the later seventies when I was going to go there after HS to major in the veterinary school (love animals) and was going to minor (diminish?) in Emusic. Its a LOT of wanking around with minimal effect - my general proof: no major synth manuf. are pursuing it anymore. And keep in mind - ALL motm vcos ARE fourier generating devices already - right? They do generate multiple integer harmonics up to infinity - eh? (if you can hear that high)- you just subtract off then with the filter thingys, right! I had a good friend - good guy - but not totally an "expert synthesist" , mind you, per se - he dreamed of having 8000 sine wave VCOs (lotta knobs?) I told him he'd never even be able to get close to anything much better than the Kawais already out there...keep in mind however that once you 'leap' out of the fourier thinking, then you can get fairly off-the-wall, NON-harmonic, and possibly creative with it- Mr. Fourier really didn't do a whole lot musically speaking, (and he wasn't a musician to my knowledge)other than 'prove' that things like square, sawtooth, triangle waves, are composed from sines waves - big whoop - from a musical standpoint-eh? Just further ramblings from a goofball who has long since gone crazy having TRIED all these things in his very obsessive, synthesis mind, making strange sounds kinda life. I hope these are some words of wisdom for you. Let the flaming begin! I can take it! No just kidding really - don't do that! Rog Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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RE: [motm] Re: Additive Synth Tools
2003-05-07 by Paul Haneberg
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