The wrap-around you are referring to does not happen because the lowpass filter in the converter prevents any frequencies above 22.05 khz from making it to the converter. The lowpass filter is a "brick wall filter." It typically starts to rolloff at around 20khz and by the time it gets to 22kHz should be at -96 db or lower. The steep slope of the filter means phase shifts happen along with the rolloff. In cheap filters these phase artifacts often happen in the audible range. This is what causes the loss of "air." In fact some cheap filters start to rolloff before they get to 20khz. The higher quality filters are designed to minimize the phase shift and to preserve the sound quality. It's also possible to oversample. You can for instance sample at 88.2 khz set the filter to rolloff at 20kHz but only store every other sample. This could sound better because the filter has more room to roll off and therefore does not need to be so drastic. There are even 1-bit converters that sample in the Mhz range. These would take a little more time to explain, but the bottom line is that any artifacts or loss of sound quality you notice in a recording sampled at 44.1kHz is due to the filter preceeding the A to D converter and possibly the lowpass filter following the D to A converter to a lessser extent. My studio uses an Apogee AD8000 SE converter and yes these are very expensive. But I cannot hear the difference between using this converter at 44.1 kHz and a ProTools HD converter running at 192kHz. I also use Apogee's dither which is very good and does add apparent resolution when converting a 24 bit recording to 16 bits. I record from the MOTM straight into the converter, after passing the signal through a very good transformer to make it Lo-Z. > I'm aware of the 24 bit technique, and the dithering. But > I'm surprised that no one suggests the need for high sample > rates. Afaik, sampling at 44.1 or 48k is asking for > aliasing caused by signals living around the 20k range (I'm > told they 'wrap' around the freq roof of an AD. Afaik, if > I'd use a '300 saw waveform, I get lots of partials in that > frequency range, and maybe even higher. > > Mind you I've never tried it (no 96k option here). But I got > this knowlegde from web articles written by a mastering > engineer (can't remember the source right now). What I > concluded from those articles is that you have to use the > highest possible sample rate to approach that analog audio > feel (apart from a jittter-free clock, etc, etc.). > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
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Re: [motm] No 88.2 or 96k then?
2004-02-08 by Paul Haneberg
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