I have a lot of complaints with the way V-Drums do Midi. When I record V-drums I record the midi stream, but I also record each pad to its own audio channel. When I go to edit, I make multiple copies of the midi track, because the midi track has so much undocumented junk that I often can't tell which drum is which. So I compare the timing of the midi hits with the audio track for each drum and edit till I have a separate midi track for each drum. Then I put them all back together into one midi track. Then I either feed that back into the V-Drums or I use BFD (which sound far more natural.) Usually I end up using mostly BFD stuff, but mixing in some V-Drum, particularly on the kick. This is all very time consuming, but I like the result. Even when recording real drums I often will augment them with V-Drum samples. Usually I use sound replacer for that, but sometimes I'll EQ and gate a drum track till I have one drum pretty well isolated, then I feed the audio signal into the one of the Aux inputs on the V-Drum head. This give me a midi signal, which I then edit. (The V-Drum head needs to be adjusted to treat the audio signal with the right amount of sensitivity and to minimize multiple triggers.) Then I use it to trigger something else such as BFD. There ought to be a better way, but I haven't found it yet. Paul Haneberg -----Original Message----- From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Amann Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:00 AM To: motm@yahoogroups.com Subject: [motm] V-Drums with modulars Redux It sure has a certain romance to tank MIDI entirely and trigger the modular from the V-Drums directly. It also sounds like solving the technical issues to get it to work in a performance setting would consume A LOT of time and money and, in the end, be re-inventing the wheel that Roland has spent years perfecting. I assume that Paul agrees with this since his silence after my original post was deafening. ;-) So now the technical problem is this: drum brains allow you to transmit any MIDI note you want, but they do not allow you to transmit the various pads on various MIDI channels. So I will need a MIDI to CV converter that allows me to split the MIDI stream based on MIDI notes. Will the MOTM-650 allow me to send MIDI note "x" to CV1 and MIDI note "y" to CV2 etc. when "x" and "y" are on the same MIDI channel? PLL, BFG PS: When does the MOTM-650 begin shipping? I ask this out of curiousity with no intent to torture poor 'ol Pauly. Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: [motm] V-Drums with modulars Redux
2005-06-10 by Paul Haneberg
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