Ivan writes: >>That was some funny reading. To some of those people can I just say "GET A LIFE!".<< My thoughts exactly. I had to drop in a post to point out that so much of the B.S. they're spouting has already to shown false by me in past ridiculous threads like that. The problem is some people's brains don't have the ability to aquire information and modify their thinking. Posting on these forums is like talking to people with Alzheimer's disease. Since the magical 901 oscillator was brought up in that thread, I of course had to point out all the falsehoods that people keep bringing up. Facts: the moog waveforms aren't different than everybody elses, the 901 doesn't sound different than others, there is not more jitter in it, and drift can easily be programmed in. They just can't seem to learn simple child-like concepts. And then there is the big picture of too many people obscessing over such details and yet they have nothing to show for it. A lot of it comes from trying to compensate for lack of talent in the synthesis and music side. I have to point out again that nobody has put out any quality synth album, and maybe no synth album at all based on a Moog modular in close to 3 decades now. So all that inane talk about how great their Moogs sound, when all they're being used for is wall decorations collecting dust, is just a waste of time. I've gotten by without owning a 901 oscillator, or authentic Minimoog filter, and it hasn't hindered me. John Mahoney writes: >>What you say is true, but sometimes the old stuff has something magical about it. An example that I like to mention is Tom Oberheim's comment on the evolution from OB-X to OB-Xa to OB-8; each synth was cleaner and theoretically "better" than the previous model, but in retrospect he decided that the earlier ones have more character. (I think this story comes from Mark Vail's book.) I suppose the 2/4/8-voice has the most character of all.<< Yes, that's from Mark Vail's book. But the problem is some people keep making up baseless fantasies about individual components in the synth. The Moog may sound different because a number of things ranging from it's filter, exponential VCA, low voltage levels with slewing and distortion. But saying things like the Moog has magical waveforms has already been shown false. And of course there are years of history on these forums of people failing blind listening tests, something else they can't seem to learn from. So in the end it comes back to "get a life". -Elhardt "The current revival in analog synthesizers has spawned a lamentable abundance of mechanically repetitive, amelodic, soulless, robo-porn tracks that are banal at best and enervating at worst." - record reviewer
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Re: [motm] Re: FYI: new 5U / large format sub forum over at Muff's
2008-09-03 by Kenneth Elhardt
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