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Way OT: MIDI Interfaces

2001-08-03 by Tkacs, Ken


Pardon a MIDI question here in analog world, but throwing this question out to this group is my best chance of getting a reliable answer.

Over the past 15 years I have, sadly, had to buy a lot of MIDI interfaces, from an old Roland MPU-401 to my old Voyetra OP 4-port and on up through my last one, a Midi Quest 8Port SE 8x8 patchbay type. I bought that last one not quite four years ago, and it was fine... until I upgraded my PC to Windows 98. At that time I discovered that Opcode had bought out Midi Quest, but had no real intention of supporting this I/F. No drivers ever came out beyond the original Win 3.1 drivers! They worked under Win95 at least.

I limped along keeping an old PC handy just for the sole purpose of supporting this expensive interface. But now my old Win95 machine has died, and while I can rebuild it, and even put that ancient OS back on, I can't find drivers anywhere for this otherwise good-as-new interface. Opcode's site doesn't even list the old drivers. (It's one thing to stop writing new drivers for old software, but would it really kill them to keep an archive of older drivers up there...?)

So anyway, I need a MIDI Interface, fast. It needs to be at least 8x8. USB or FireWire are preferable interfaces to parallel or something proprietary. I would REALLY LIKE IT if the new one would support Windows 2000! My biggest concern is buying another $500-800 box and then having the support pulled out from under me in six months when Windows XP comes out.

I was looking at two MOTU boxes, but I'm fishing here from recommendations from you savvy folks. I've been reading some mildly confusing stuff about "WDM" drivers and other, unwelcome complexities with trying to get audio hardware to work under Win2000...

Can anyone recommend a good, big, MIDI interface that stands a chance of being supported two or more years from now? As always, thanks in advance!

Mr. T




Re: [motm] Way OT: MIDI Interfaces

2001-08-03 by ivancu@aol.com

In a message dated 8/3/01 6:13:07 AM, ken.tkacs@... writes:

<< Can anyone recommend a good, big, MIDI interface that stands a chance of

being supported two or more years from now? As always, thanks in advance! >>

Yamaha seems to be fairly good about supporting older devices.  Check out 
their USB monster UX256 at www.yamahasynth.com

Edirol is coming out with a new one too, the UM-880.  www.edirol.com

Ivan

Re: Way OT: MIDI Interfaces

2001-08-03 by Mike Marsh

I have a MusicQuest 2Port/SE that I recently had the same problem 
with.  If you email their technical support they will email you back 
the driver.  Their might even be a 32 bit driver for it.  There was 
for 2Port/SE.  I think Opcode was in turn bought by Gibson, so you 
will be dealing with them.

Another way to solve your problem is to get an inexpensive MIDI card 
that works with the OS of your choice (most cheapo sound cards have 
MIDI, for example) and then buy a MIDI router like the KMX MIDI 
Central.  This baby has 16 MIDI INs/OUTs, patch memory for 100 user 
routings and the ability to MERGE IN/OUT pairs 1 and 2.  Satnd alone, 
requires no driver.  You might be able to pick one up used somewhere 
or an eBay, or find something similar that's still made.

Good luck!

Mike

--- In motm@y..., "Tkacs, Ken" <ken.tkacs@j...> wrote:
> 
> Pardon a MIDI question here in analog world, but throwing this 
question out
> to this group is my best chance of getting a reliable answer.
> 
> Over the past 15 years I have, sadly, had to buy a lot of MIDI 
interfaces,
> from an old Roland MPU-401 to my old Voyetra OP 4-port and on up 
through my
> last one, a Midi Quest 8Port SE 8x8 patchbay type. I bought that 
last one
> not quite four years ago, and it was fine... until I upgraded my PC 
to
> Windows 98. At that time I discovered that Opcode had bought out 
Midi Quest,
> but had no real intention of supporting this I/F. No drivers ever 
came out
> beyond the original Win 3.1 drivers! They worked under Win95 at 
least.
> 
> I limped along keeping an old PC handy just for the sole purpose of
> supporting this expensive interface. But now my old Win95 machine 
has died,
> and while I can rebuild it, and even put that ancient OS back on, I 
can't
> find drivers anywhere for this otherwise good-as-new interface. 
Opcode's
> site doesn't even list the old drivers. (It's one thing to stop 
writing new
> drivers for old software, but would it really kill them to keep an 
archive
> of older drivers up there...?)
> 
> So anyway, I need a MIDI Interface, fast. It needs to be at least 
8x8. USB
> or FireWire are preferable interfaces to parallel or something 
proprietary.
> I would REALLY LIKE IT if the new one would support Windows 2000! 
My biggest
> concern is buying another $500-800 box and then having the support 
pulled
> out from under me in six months when Windows XP comes out.
> 
> I was looking at two MOTU boxes, but I'm fishing here from 
recommendations
> from you savvy folks. I've been reading some mildly confusing stuff 
about
> "WDM" drivers and other, unwelcome complexities with trying to get 
audio
> hardware to work under Win2000...
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good, big, MIDI interface that stands a 
chance of
> being supported two or more years from now? As always, thanks in 
advance!
> 
> Mr. T

RE: [motm] Way OT: MIDI Interfaces

2001-08-03 by Tony Karavidas

One word: Midiman
Here comes more words....
They have lifetime warranties, good driver support, and low(er) cost. They have Windows2000 support. They are also financially secure which helps their long term viability.
Tony
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tkacs, Ken [mailto:ken.tkacs@...]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 6:10 AM
To: 'motm@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [motm] Way OT: MIDI Interfaces


Pardon a MIDI question here in analog world, but throwing this question out to this group is my best chance of getting a reliable answer.

Over the past 15 years I have, sadly, had to buy a lot of MIDI interfaces, from an old Roland MPU-401 to my old Voyetra OP 4-port and on up through my last one, a Midi Quest 8Port SE 8x8 patchbay type. I bought that last one not quite four years ago, and it was fine... until I upgraded my PC to Windows 98. At that time I discovered that Opcode had bought out Midi Quest, but had no real intention of supporting this I/F. No drivers ever came out beyond the original Win 3.1 drivers! They worked under Win95 at least.

I limped along keeping an old PC handy just for the sole purpose of supporting this expensive interface. But now my old Win95 machine has died, and while I can rebuild it, and even put that ancient OS back on, I can't find drivers anywhere for this otherwise good-as-new interface. Opcode's site doesn't even list the old drivers. (It's one thing to stop writing new drivers for old software, but would it really kill them to keep an archive of older drivers up there...?)

So anyway, I need a MIDI Interface, fast. It needs to be at least 8x8. USB or FireWire are preferable interfaces to parallel or something proprietary. I would REALLY LIKE IT if the new one would support Windows 2000! My biggest concern is buying another $500-800 box and then having the support pulled out from under me in six months when Windows XP comes out.

I was looking at two MOTU boxes, but I'm fishing here from recommendations from you savvy folks. I've been reading some mildly confusing stuff about "WDM" drivers and other, unwelcome complexities with trying to get audio hardware to work under Win2000...

Can anyone recommend a good, big, MIDI interface that stands a chance of being supported two or more years from now? As always, thanks in advance!

Mr. T





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Re: [motm] Way OT: MIDI Interfaces

2001-08-04 by Paul Schreiber

Emagic Unitor 8 MkII us what I use. USB. Great support and great timing!
Paul S.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Tkacs, Ken
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 8:10 AM
Subject: [motm] Way OT: MIDI Interfaces


Pardon a MIDI question here in analog world, but throwing this question out to this group is my best chance of getting a reliable answer.

Over the past 15 years I have, sadly, had to buy a lot of MIDI interfaces, from an old Roland MPU-401 to my old Voyetra OP 4-port and on up through my last one, a Midi Quest 8Port SE 8x8 patchbay type. I bought that last one not quite four years ago, and it was fine... until I upgraded my PC to Windows 98. At that time I discovered that Opcode had bought out Midi Quest, but had no real intention of supporting this I/F. No drivers ever came out beyond the original Win 3.1 drivers! They worked under Win95 at least.

I limped along keeping an old PC handy just for the sole purpose of supporting this expensive interface. But now my old Win95 machine has died, and while I can rebuild it, and even put that ancient OS back on, I can't find drivers anywhere for this otherwise good-as-new interface. Opcode's site doesn't even list the old drivers. (It's one thing to stop writing new drivers for old software, but would it really kill them to keep an archive of older drivers up there...?)

So anyway, I need a MIDI Interface, fast. It needs to be at least 8x8. USB or FireWire are preferable interfaces to parallel or something proprietary. I would REALLY LIKE IT if the new one would support Windows 2000! My biggest concern is buying another $500-800 box and then having the support pulled out from under me in six months when Windows XP comes out.

I was looking at two MOTU boxes, but I'm fishing here from recommendations from you savvy folks. I've been reading some mildly confusing stuff about "WDM" drivers and other, unwelcome complexities with trying to get audio hardware to work under Win2000...

Can anyone recommend a good, big, MIDI interface that stands a chance of being supported two or more years from now? As always, thanks in advance!

Mr. T





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Re: [motm] Way OT: MIDI Interfaces

2001-08-04 by Dave Hylander

I have to agree with Paul.  The unitor 8 MkII is a very good interface, I 
use two.  Stay away from MOTU unless you have a MAC.  Their support for 
Windows is terrible and their windows drivers are worse.

dave

At 04:43 PM 8/4/01 -0500, Paul Schreiber wrote:
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>Emagic Unitor 8 MkII us what I use. USB. Great support and great timing!
>
>Paul S.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:ken.tkacs@...>Tkacs, Ken
>To: <mailto:'motm@yahoogroups.com'>'motm@yahoogroups.com'
>Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 8:10 AM
>Subject: [motm] Way OT: MIDI Interfaces
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>
>Pardon a MIDI question here in analog world, but throwing this question 
>out to this group is my best chance of getting a reliable answer.
>Over the past 15 years I have, sadly, had to buy a lot of MIDI interfaces, 
>from an old Roland MPU-401 to my old Voyetra OP 4-port and on up through 
>my last one, a Midi Quest 8Port SE 8x8 patchbay type. I bought that last 
>one not quite four years ago, and it was fine... until I upgraded my PC to 
>Windows 98. At that time I discovered that Opcode had bought out Midi 
>Quest, but had no real intention of supporting this I/F. No drivers ever 
>came out beyond the original Win 3.1 drivers! They worked under Win95 at 
>least.
>I limped along keeping an old PC handy just for the sole purpose of 
>supporting this expensive interface. But now my old Win95 machine has 
>died, and while I can rebuild it, and even put that ancient OS back on, I 
>can't find drivers anywhere for this otherwise good-as-new interface. 
>Opcode's site doesn't even list the old drivers. (It's one thing to stop 
>writing new drivers for old software, but would it really kill them to 
>keep an archive of older drivers up there...?)
>So anyway, I need a MIDI Interface, fast. It needs to be at least 8x8. USB 
>or FireWire are preferable interfaces to parallel or something 
>proprietary. I would REALLY LIKE IT if the new one would support Windows 
>2000! My biggest concern is buying another $500-800 box and then having 
>the support pulled out from under me in six months when Windows XP comes out.
>I was looking at two MOTU boxes, but I'm fishing here from recommendations 
>from you savvy folks. I've been reading some mildly confusing stuff about 
>"WDM" drivers and other, unwelcome complexities with trying to get audio 
>hardware to work under Win2000...
>Can anyone recommend a good, big, MIDI interface that stands a chance of 
>being supported two or more years from now? As always, thanks in advance!
>Mr. T
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [motm] Way OT: MIDI Interfaces

2001-08-05 by moog@buffalo.com

I have to concur, i feel the Emagic interfaces are at the top of the mountain.
If you do not need a allot of machine sync and timecode option the AMT-8 is a
less expensive option.  I have one of each and they are rock solid~!
Jim

Dave Hylander wrote:
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> 
> I have to agree with Paul.  The unitor 8 MkII is a very good interface, I use
> two.  Stay away from MOTU unless you have a MAC.  Their support for Windows is
> terrible and their windows drivers are worse.
> 
> dave
> 
> At 04:43 PM 8/4/01 -0500, Paul Schreiber wrote:
> 
> > Emagic Unitor 8 MkII us what I use. USB. Great support and great timing!
> >
> > Paul S.
> >
> >
> >      ----- Original Message -----
> >      From: Tkacs, Ken
> >      To: 'motm@yahoogroups.com'
> >      Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 8:10 AM
> >      Subject: [motm] Way OT: MIDI Interfaces
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >      Pardon a MIDI question here in analog world, but throwing this question
> >      out to this group is my best chance of getting a reliable answer.
> >      Over the past 15 years I have, sadly, had to buy a lot of MIDI
> >      interfaces, from an old Roland MPU-401 to my old Voyetra OP 4-port and
> >      on up through my last one, a Midi Quest 8Port SE 8x8 patchbay type. I
> >      bought that last one not quite four years ago, and it was fine... until
> >      I upgraded my PC to Windows 98. At that time I discovered that Opcode
> >      had bought out Midi Quest, but had no real intention of supporting this
> >      I/F. No drivers ever came out beyond the original Win 3.1 drivers! They
> >      worked under Win95 at least.
> >      I limped along keeping an old PC handy just for the sole purpose of
> >      supporting this expensive interface. But now my old Win95 machine has
> >      died, and while I can rebuild it, and even put that ancient OS back on,
> >      I can't find drivers anywhere for this otherwise good-as-new interface.
> >      Opcode's site doesn't even list the old drivers. (It's one thing to
> >      stop writing new drivers for old software, but would it really kill
> >      them to keep an archive of older drivers up there...?)
> >      So anyway, I need a MIDI Interface, fast. It needs to be at least 8x8.
> >      USB or FireWire are preferable interfaces to parallel or something
> >      proprietary. I would REALLY LIKE IT if the new one would support
> >      Windows 2000! My biggest concern is buying another $500-800 box and
> >      then having the support pulled out from under me in six months when
> >      Windows XP comes out.
> >      I was looking at two MOTU boxes, but I'm fishing here from
> >      recommendations from you savvy folks. I've been reading some mildly
> >      confusing stuff about "WDM" drivers and other, unwelcome complexities
> >      with trying to get audio hardware to work under Win2000...
> >      Can anyone recommend a good, big, MIDI interface that stands a chance
> >      of being supported two or more years from now? As always, thanks in
> >      advance!
> >      Mr. T
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >      Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

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