MOTM

What does one do for additional attenuation in the MOTM world? Most 
modules seem to have at least one input with no control and none (I 
think) have output controls. I prefer the convention with no output 
level controls and all input level controls (except v/8va inputs). I 
understand that this is a trade off between circuit functionality, 
panel real estate and module conventions - but, if this is truly a 
"modular" system - where is the attenuator module? There needs to be 
an alternative to burning a mixer (or half a mixer) to control an 
input. Also, is there a down side to passive attenuation? (no pun 
intended)

Tomorrow's question: where's the damn inverter? ;-)

I used the Moog design for a passive attenuator. Simple design, three
pots and 6 jacks. Wired so the first input will go to all 3 attenuators/
outputs. You disconnect the chain by plugging into the second
input/third input. So it can be a multiple as well. Very useful module
in my setup. Perhaps a 1U Stooge panel if Paul has no plans to release
such a module?
Terry

coyoteous wrote:

> 
> What does one do for additional attenuation in the MOTM world? Most
> modules seem to have at least one input with no control and none (I
> think) have output controls. I prefer the convention with no output
> level controls and all input level controls (except v/8va inputs). I
> understand that this is a trade off between circuit functionality,
> panel real estate and module conventions - but, if this is truly a
> "modular" system - where is the attenuator module? There needs to be
> an alternative to burning a mixer (or half a mixer) to control an
> input. Also, is there a down side to passive attenuation? (no pun
> intended)
>

Most modules *do* have input attenuators for every input except 1V/Oct. In fact, MOTM probably
has more input attenuators than any other synth.

Also, mosy modules have at least 1 "reversing attenuator" for CV in, which as an 'inverter'.

The MOTM-830 Mixer has 6 attenuators, 2 of which are inverting.

Paul S.

I use the Oakley MultiMix set up as a triple reversible attenuator / 
mixer. Go here for details:

http://www.hotrodmotm.com/mix_atten.htm

Moe

>>>>
What does one do for additional attenuation in the MOTM world? Most 
modules seem to have at least one input with no control and none (I 
think) have output controls. I prefer the convention with no output 
level controls and all input level controls (except v/8va inputs). I 
understand that this is a trade off between circuit functionality, 
panel real estate and module conventions - but, if this is truly a 
"modular" system - where is the attenuator module? There needs to be 
an alternative to burning a mixer (or half a mixer) to control an 
input. Also, is there a down side to passive attenuation? (no pun 
intended)

Tomorrow's question: where's the damn inverter? ;-)
<<<<

----- Original Message -----

From: coyoteous <satori@...>
> What does one do for additional attenuation in the MOTM world?

well there's always the very tastefully designed "port-a-pot" ala the moog
website
i plan to build a couple just because i can...

meanwhile check this out
http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~hsakr/hdspeakers/hdspeakers.htm
a speaker system made out of old hard drives !!!
i just can't wait

cheers
paul b
sheffield
uk

Someone has WAY... too much free time.
Cough cough
Stooge Larry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: sikorsky <vulture.squadron@...>
meanwhile check this out
http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~hsakr/hdspeakers/hdspeakers.htm
a speaker system made out of old hard drives !!!
i just can't wait

cheers
paul b
sheffield
uk

--- In motm@y..., "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@a...> wrote:
> Most modules *do* have input attenuators for every input 
except 1V/Oct. In fact, MOTM probably
> has more input attenuators than any other synth.

Yes, you are right - I'm an idiot. It was late and I was confusing a 
compeditor's modules with yours. The only unattenuated inputs I 
could find later were on micro series modules (VCF & Mixer).
 
> Also, mosy modules have at least 1 "reversing attenuator" for 
CV in, which as an 'inverter'.

Right again -
 

> The MOTM-830 Mixer has 6 attenuators, 2 of which are 
inverting.

and again.
 

> Paul S.


Thanks to all who responded and to Paul for letting me monitor 
your group before buying. I've decided to buy MOTM (if Paul will 
still sell me any). I'm going back into my hole now.

----- Original Message ----- 
> From: coyoteous <satori@...>
> Thanks to all who responded and to Paul for
> letting me monitor your group before buying.

Welcome to the group and the wonderful world of MOTM.

> I've decided to buy MOTM (if Paul will still sell
> me any). I'm going back into my hole now.

<snicker> Paul refuse someone's money ??  I have heard of
such nonsense but never seens any actual evidence.

While there are some guys here with a considerable amount 
of modular experience, there are a lot of guys like me too with
just about zero experience who are still learning (and crawling
out of our own holes).  This is a great group of helpful guys.

Welcome aboard. :)
Larry Hendry
aka Stooge Larry