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Electro-Harmonix Deluxe Electric Mistress, flanger of the gods.

--- In motm@y..., Matt Hutchison <mhutchison@f...> wrote:
> Hey MOTM'ers,
>  
> Can anyone recommend a nice unit to do flange effects?  Rack mount, 
pedal or

> software plug-in. 
>  
> Thanks!

Ive got an ada original issue flanger. Its pretty cool, it can be really
nice and subtle and then get all twangy and metallic. I would recommend
it.
matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Hutchison [mailto:mhutchison@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 8:24 AM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] Flange Effects Units
 
Hey MOTM'ers,
 
Can anyone recommend a nice unit to do flange effects?  Rack mount,
pedal or software plug-in. 
 
Thanks!
 




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MAM has just released a Flanger.
I have not seen or heard the final unit, but I heard an impressive demo
of a prototype last year. It's digital, similar to the old Deltalab
stuff, as far as I can tell.

www.mam-germany.de

look for "CF-1"

JH.

On the cheap, there's the A.R.T. SGE mach II. It's a total piece of sh*t
otherwise but has an incredible flanger. Can be found for around $100-150
used. My favorite is the old Mutron, but those are pricey and hard to come
by.

The original poster asked about a great sounding Flanger but didn't say 
anything about what he wanted it to do.  If he just wants it to swish up and 
down via a LFO, then many have given some suggestions, although forgetting to 
mention what some people think is the best sounding flanger the ADA.

But if he is like me and wants to wrap a sound up into an intense Tomita like 
flange that sounds like a jet taking off and hitting that satisfying 
through-zero climax, then he will be disappointed by them all.  For that, the 
Lexicon MPX 100 (and probably the MPX 500) has a preset with adjustable 
parameters, and it sounds great.  Or he will have to use two digital delays 
to also acheive a similar effect.

-Elhardt

>The original poster asked about a great sounding Flanger but didn't say
>anything about what he wanted it to do.  If he just wants it to swish up
>>and down via a LFO, then many have given some suggestions,
>although forgetting to mention what some people think is the best sounding
>>flanger the ADA.

That has that odd/even switch, doesn't it??

My favorite flange is the SDD-2000 -- the most vicious flange I have ever
heard.  It definitely has that early 80's industrial sound -- very
strident, grainy and digital, with an obvious swoosh.

The thing about flangers is that noise helps define the effect (like smoke
helps define lighting).  The EH Electric Mistress, a BBD pedal, is very
warm, sweet, noisy, and useful, but it doesn't have any sort of external
control.  It also has a very obvious low-pass effect.  I like it with
samples, especially vocal samples, but it often sounds too mellow with
analog sources.

I like the Roland SDE-330 for pretty, smooth, bright, sparkley, clean,
wide-bandwidth, flanging.  It also has a nice stereo output.  The annoying
things about this unit are that the power cord is permanently attached, and
the MIDI implementation could be much better.  Other that, it sounds fine.

>But if he is like me and wants to wrap a sound up into an intense Tomita
>>like flange that sounds like a jet taking off and hitting that satisfying
>through-zero climax, then he will be disappointed by them all.  For that,
>>the Lexicon MPX 100 (and probably the MPX 500) has a preset with
>adjustable
>parameters, and it sounds great.  Or he will have to use two digital delays

I have several Lexicons, but I don't like any of them for flanging.  It's
simply not a matter of being too clean, as I don't like the Vortex flanging
either.  The PCM-80/81 has excellent external control (both MIDI and CV), a
massive amount of parameters, and six independent delays, but for some
reason I've never found a flange that I've liked.  Other than that they're
great!!  Maybe I'm just not programming it properly.

elhardt@... wrote:
> But if he is like me and wants to wrap a sound up into an intense
> Tomita like  flange that sounds like a jet taking off and hitting that
> satisfying  through-zero climax, then he will be disappointed by them
> all.

The D-Fx Flanger plug-in for Pro Tools does through-zero flanging. Of
course, you have to have Pro Tools.