MOTM

I have a question regarding MP3 files.

When I try to open the one on the SynthTech "news" page, and also MP3s sent
out from people on this chat area, I get "unrecognized format" errors.

I use MP3s all day--I do lots of multimedia work. I've never had a problem
with them until now, and it's the same problem with all of the files relted
to MOTM stuff.

Are all you folks using Macintoshes or something? Just trying to figure out
where the incompatibility is. I've tried opening them with WinAmp, G2,
Premier... Yet all of my othe MP3s play fine.

Tkacs, Ken (02:32 PM 9/17/1999) wrote:

 >When I try to open the one on the SynthTech "news" page, and also MP3s sent
 >out from people on this chat area, I get "unrecognized format" errors.


Not that this is what you wanted to hear, but they work fine for me... I 
just pulled both of the MP3's from the NEWS page (Dave Fulton's piece and 
the 410 demo) and they opened right up in WinAMP under Windows NT.

They're both done as MPEG 1.0 Layer 3, at 128kbs and 44.1khz.


Maybe the problem is with the MIME encoding? What happens if you 
SHIFT_CLICK to force the files down raw, and then load 'em up? Are they 
possibly coming down as ASCII encoded, and thus need to be uncooked?

Just as a test to see if it's Paul's hosting service, can you use any of 
the files from here?

   http://www.midiwall.com/q/sounds.html


Mark

These give me no problems. I just pulled two down and they both work fine.

This is very odd.

		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Mark Pulver [mailto:mpulver@...]
		Sent:	Friday, September 17, 1999 3:14 PM
		To:	motm@onelist.com
		Subject:	Re: [motm] MP3 Problems

		From: Mark Pulver <mpulver@...>

		Tkacs, Ken (02:32 PM 9/17/1999) wrote:

		 >When I try to open the one on the SynthTech "news" page,
and also MP3s sent
		 >out from people on this chat area, I get "unrecognized
format" errors.


		Not that this is what you wanted to hear, but they work fine
for me... I 
		just pulled both of the MP3's from the NEWS page (Dave
Fulton's piece and 
		the 410 demo) and they opened right up in WinAMP under
Windows NT.

		They're both done as MPEG 1.0 Layer 3, at 128kbs and
44.1khz.


		Maybe the problem is with the MIME encoding? What happens if
you 
		SHIFT_CLICK to force the files down raw, and then load 'em
up? Are they 
		possibly coming down as ASCII encoded, and thus need to be
uncooked?

		Just as a test to see if it's Paul's hosting service, can
you use any of 
		the files from here?

		   http://www.midiwall.com/q/sounds.html


		Mark


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Tkacs, Ken (03:13 PM 9/17/1999) wrote:

 >These give me no problems. I just pulled two down and they both work fine.
 >This is very odd.

Hmmmm....

My only guess is the MIME encoding sent from the server...

I know that my host is sending "audio/x-mpeg", I can drop a sniffer on my 
line in a minute and see what's being sent.

*** one minute later...

Nope, I'm wrong, the site is sending an audio/x-mpeg tag... Hmmm....



Did you have a chance to try a SHIFT_CLICK and then load the file once it 
comes down?


Very strange...

Mark

Nope. I get:  "The file cannot be played. The file may be corrupt, or not in
the correct format."

		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Mark Pulver [mailto:mpulver@...]
		Sent:	Friday, September 17, 1999 3:39 PM
		To:	motm@onelist.com
		Subject:	RE: [motm] MP3 Problems

		From: Mark Pulver <mpulver@...>


		Did you have a chance to try a SHIFT_CLICK and then load the
file once it 
		comes down?

Winamp plays it fine for me.

Dave Bradley
Principal Software Engineer
Engineering Animation, Inc.
daveb@... 

> From: Mark Pulver <mpulver@...>
> 
> 
> I think Ken was aiming for the list with this question.
> 
>  >From: "Tkacs, Ken" <Ken.Tkacs@...>
>  >To: "'Mark Pulver'" <mpulver@...>
>  >Subject: RE: [motm] MP3 Problems
>  >Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:36:55 -0400
>  >
>  >Can everyone play that first MP3 on the MOTM "News" page okay?
>

Paul Schreiber (09:52 AM 9/21/1999) wrote:

 >I think he has a browser issue.

Well, I thought that as well, but he can get to other MP3's that are 
encoded the same way from other sites. Your hosting service is sending the 
right MIME type, and the file is coming down the right size so it's not an 
ASCII encoding thing.

All very weird...

Mark

I think he has a browser issue.

I have a CD rom burner now. I can copy them directly if anybody need them.

Paul S.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Pulver <mpulver@...>
To: motm@onelist.com <motm@onelist.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 9:33 AM

Subject: Fwd: RE: [motm] MP3 Problems


>From: Mark Pulver <mpulver@...>
>
>
>I think Ken was aiming for the list with this question.
>
>He and I have been trying to figure out what's up with the MP3's on Paul's
>news page but to no avail...
>
>
> >From: "Tkacs, Ken" <Ken.Tkacs@...>
> >To: "'Mark Pulver'" <mpulver@...>
> >Subject: RE: [motm] MP3 Problems
> >Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:36:55 -0400
> >
> >Can everyone play that first MP3 on the MOTM "News" page okay?
>
>
>>

Whoops-let me ask a functional question: if I hit "reply" to an Email that
comes in off  list, does it go straight to that person, or back to the main
list? Microsoft Outlook _appears_ to be addressing it back to the list, but
I get the feeling that's not happening...?

I apologize if these replies aren't being properly directed.

		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Mark Pulver [mailto:mpulver@...]
		Sent:	Tuesday, September 21, 1999 10:35 AM
		To:	motm@onelist.com
		Subject:	Fwd: RE: [motm] MP3 Problems

		From: Mark Pulver <mpulver@...>


		I think Ken was aiming for the list with this question.

		He and I have been trying to figure out what's up with the
MP3's on Paul's 
		news page but to no avail...

Tkacs, Ken (11:10 AM 9/21/1999) wrote:

 >Whoops-let me ask a functional question: if I hit "reply" to an Email that
 >comes in off  list, does it go straight to that person, or back to the main
 >list? Microsoft Outlook _appears_ to be addressing it back to the list, but
 >I get the feeling that's not happening...?
 >
 >I apologize if these replies aren't being properly directed.

It depends on the mail client. Eudora, for example, can go either way based 
on a config option.

The one I forwarded back to the list had come straight to me, but that was 
because I had stopped including the list in that conversation we had going.

This one that you just did went back to the list.


Mark

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