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Vocal formants and the 410

Vocal formants and the 410

2002-11-25 by Mike Marsh

OK, so I'm on a vocal formant kick.

Someone somewhere asked what the settings on a 410 would be to do 
vocal formants.  My first thought was, well you can't because there 
is not enough resonance to get good formants.  Then I thought, wait 
aminute, how about feeding the output back to the input with a mult?

Has anyone tried this?  I will when I get home, but I was wondering 
if someone has already done this.  What was the outcome?

Mike

Re: [motm] Vocal formants and the 410

2002-11-25 by Scott Juskiw

At 9:17 PM +0000 2002/11/25, Mike Marsh wrote:
>OK, so I'm on a vocal formant kick.
>
>Someone somewhere asked what the settings on a 410 would be to do
>vocal formants.  My first thought was, well you can't because there
>is not enough resonance to get good formants.  Then I thought, wait
>aminute, how about feeding the output back to the input with a mult?
>
>Has anyone tried this?  I will when I get home, but I was wondering
>if someone has already done this.  What was the outcome?
>

I've done this a lot and it works great. My method is to patch the 
410 into the feedback loop of a 420. Should work with a 440 as well 
(if only I had one). Check out my demos on the synthtech demo and 410 
pages (gargoyles, vocals, 3 zombie tenors):

http://www.synthtech.com/demo/gargoyles.mp3 
http://www.synthtech.com/demo/410_vocals.mp3
http://www.synthtech.com/demo/410_zombies.mp3

[motm] Vocal formants and the 410

2002-11-25 by elhardt@att.net

Mike Marsh writes:
>>Someone somewhere asked what the settings on a 410 would be to do vocal 
formants.  My first thought was, well you can't because there is not enough 
resonance to get good formants.  Then I thought, wait a minute, how about 
feeding the output back to the input with a mult? Has anyone tried this?  I 
will when I get home, but I was wondering if someone has already done this.  
What was the outcome?<<

It looks like Juskiw says it works great, but I've tried it some time back 
without another filter in the feedback loop and I would say it doesn't work 
very well. I got just a tiny little more resonance, but nothing worth 
mentioning.

Scott Juskiw writes:
>>Check out my demos on the synthtech demo and 410 pages (gargoyles, vocals, 3 
zombie tenors):<<

There are some interesting sounds there and one can hear the essence of male 
voices in a couple of them. But synth choir sounds still aren't as distinct and 
clear as those from a Mellotron for example. It's been a while since I've tried 
some vocal stuff, but I'm thinking steeper cutoff slopes on the filters might 
also help. There are also some other techniques I'm going try in the future 
that will help get rid of the easily recognizable, overly even harmonic levels, 
so as to help hide the fact it was done on an electronic instrument.

-Elhardt

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