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2007-10-28 by Robert van der Kamp
Hi all, I own an Oakley env. follower combined with two-way lag processor, and it works great. But I really don't like the standard panel that comes with it. So much that I refuse to mount it in the cabinet. ;) Does anyone have a true MOTM style panel (with the beloved MOTM paint) for sale for this module? Or is there a way to order one, somewhere? Thanks, Rober
2007-10-28 by David Moylan
Robert van der Kamp wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I own an Oakley env. follower combined with two-way lag processor, > and it works great. > But I really don't like the standard panel that comes with it. So > much that I refuse to mount it in the cabinet. ;) > > Does anyone have a true MOTM style panel (with the beloved MOTM > paint) for sale for this module? Or is there a way to order one, > somewhere? > > Thanks, > Rober > Talk to Scott at bridechamber.com. He may not have it in stock, but he does panel runs on occasion. If you can generate enough demand you can get one made. Dave
2007-10-28 by Greg James
Am I missing something? As far as I know, neither Scott nor Doug have produced a MOTM/Stooge panel in at least a year. I know life has been taking a higher priority for these guys, but I think it's time we all just own up to the fact that new MOTM/Stooge panels are not going to happen anytime soon. Just to be clear, what I mean by MOTM/Stooge is replicating the paint and labeling as closely as possible. Not some "close" facsimile. I'm not trying to 'dis anyone, it's just that news that smacks of any progress hasn't been heard for months. It's all probably moot anyway because MOTM itself is moving to a new paint process. Matching things up going forward will be impossible. -Greg
-----Original Message----- From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of David Moylan Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 11:14 AM To: Robert van der Kamp Cc: MOTM litserv Subject: Re: [motm] Looking for EFG-Deluxe panel Robert van der Kamp wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I own an Oakley env. follower combined with two-way lag processor, > and it works great. > But I really don't like the standard panel that comes with it. So > much that I refuse to mount it in the cabinet. ;) > > Does anyone have a true MOTM style panel (with the beloved MOTM > paint) for sale for this module? Or is there a way to order one, > somewhere? > > Thanks, > Rober > Talk to Scott at bridechamber.com. He may not have it in stock, but he does panel runs on occasion. If you can generate enough demand you can get one made. Dave Yahoo! Groups Links
2007-10-28 by Mark
I think you are missing something. I don't know about Doug, but Scott Deyo is currently producing a large number of panels in MOTM format. In fact, this past week I received a panel and bracket for the CGS Tube VCA based on a design I suggested in August. While the font used for its lettering is slightly different, the paint looks the same as the Stooge and Synthesis Technology panels. Even the holes are painted. I'm very happy with it. On 10/28/07, Greg James put forth:
>Am I missing something? As far as I know, neither Scott nor Doug have >produced a MOTM/Stooge panel in at least a year. I know life has been >taking a higher priority for these guys, but I think it's time we all >just own up to the fact that new MOTM/Stooge panels are not going to >happen anytime soon. > >Just to be clear, what I mean by MOTM/Stooge is replicating the paint >and labeling as closely as possible. Not some "close" facsimile.
2007-10-28 by Greg James
I've bought some modules from Scott myself. And I heartily recommend his services/items to everyone. I'll buy more from him if and when he has new stuff I want. Now having said that, Scott's panels are, by his own admission, close but not exact. MOTM "format" is different from MOTM "look". In many ways I prefer Brideschamber's "look". The font, for example, is easier for me to read. But nevertheless, they are not as close to Paul's old panels as Stooge's were (at least to my eyes). Robert was asking for a "true" MOTM-esq panel, and as far as I can see, only Doug is on record for attempting to keep the Stooge "look" going. But unfortunately he's been pre-occupied (the details of which I am not familiar - I'm only inferring from what he has posted on his web site). Months ago I sent him a huge list of panels I'd like to buy from him. But that's been close to a year now. (Hey Doug - if you're reading this, I hope your condition is not too serious and you are getting better.) I haven't seen one of Doug's panels yet, so I don't know how close his will ultimately be. As soon as I get one, I'll know. In the meantime, I'll have a chance to see one of Paul's new panels soon enough (probably in front of the Cloud Generator). Once I see the new "look," it might turn out that Scott's panels are well within the variation range that I'll have to learn to live with. As an aside, I've got enough MOTM modules across several generations to verify differences in MOTM's own paint. It is really noticeable. I've got some panels whose texture is a lot smoother than others. You can really see the difference when they are side-by-side. Scott's paint texture fits in the middle of the two extremes, and is more uniform. The sputtering on Pauls panels can run from somewhat fine to quite coarse. Scott's lettering font, however, is very different and very apparent. Those are my observations, -Greg
-----Original Message----- From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 5:09 PM To: MOTM litserv Subject: RE: [motm] Looking for EFG-Deluxe panel I think you are missing something. I don't know about Doug, but Scott Deyo is currently producing a large number of panels in MOTM format. In fact, this past week I received a panel and bracket for the CGS Tube VCA based on a design I suggested in August. While the font used for its lettering is slightly different, the paint looks the same as the Stooge and Synthesis Technology panels. Even the holes are painted. I'm very happy with it. On 10/28/07, Greg James put forth: >Am I missing something? As far as I know, neither Scott nor Doug have >produced a MOTM/Stooge panel in at least a year. I know life has been >taking a higher priority for these guys, but I think it's time we all >just own up to the fact that new MOTM/Stooge panels are not going to >happen anytime soon. > >Just to be clear, what I mean by MOTM/Stooge is replicating the paint >and labeling as closely as possible. Not some "close" facsimile. Yahoo! Groups Links
2007-10-28 by Michael Zacherl (aka TonTaub)
Hi All,
in an desperate attempt to get my building backlog straight and mainly
reconstruct my "book-keeping" (I had some bad data loss) I'd need the
module prices from July last year (just before the kit sellout started).
I got a pdf catalog from July 2004 but I'm not sure if that's valid
information.
Any useful information is welcome,
thanks a lot, Michael.
--
nonconform? noiseconform: http://blauwurf.at/2007-10-29 by loopcycle
Hey Michael, Try the wayback machine if you cant find your answer: http://www.archive.org/web/web.php Hans --- "Michael Zacherl (aka TonTaub) " <egroups@...> wrote: > Hi All, > > in an desperate attempt to get my building backlog straight and mainly > reconstruct my "book-keeping" (I had some bad data loss) I'd need the > module prices from July last year (just before the kit sellout started). > I got a pdf catalog from July 2004 but I'm not sure if that's valid > information. > > Any useful information is welcome, > > thanks a lot, Michael. > > > > -- > nonconform? noiseconform: http://blauwurf.at/ > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > screw the RIAA. artists, take control. share and remix music, legally, on your own terms. http://ccmixter.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2007-10-29 by Michael Zacherl (aka TonTaub)
Hey Hans,
thanks for reminding me! ;-)
From there I get the same motmcat5.pdf file like I already have and
also still can be downloaded from Paul's site.
But the prices just don't match with the fragments of my records. :-/
Michael.
On 29.10.2007 1:07 Uhr, loopcycle wrote:
> Hey Michael,
>
> Try the wayback machine if you cant find your answer:
>
> http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
>
> Hans
>
>
>
> --- "Michael Zacherl (aka TonTaub) " <egroups@...> wrote:
>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> in an desperate attempt to get my building backlog straight and mainly
>> reconstruct my "book-keeping" (I had some bad data loss) I'd need the
>> module prices from July last year (just before the kit sellout started).
>> I got a pdf catalog from July 2004 but I'm not sure if that's valid
>> information.
>>
>> Any useful information is welcome,
>>
>> thanks a lot, Michael.
>>
>>
--
nonconform? noiseconform: http://blauwurf.at/2007-10-29 by Scott Deyo
Scott Deyo The Bridechamber contact@... www.bridechamber.com
On Oct 28, 2007, at 5:45 PM, Greg James wrote: > I've bought some modules from Scott myself. And I heartily recommend > his services/items to everyone. I'll buy more from him if and when he > has new stuff I want. > > Now having said that, Scott's panels are, by his own admission, close > but not exact. MOTM "format" is different from MOTM "look". In many > ways I prefer Brideschamber's "look". The font, for example, is easier > for me to read. But nevertheless, they are not as close to Paul's old > panels as Stooge's were (at least to my eyes). > > Robert was asking for a "true" MOTM-esq panel, and as far as I can > see, > only Doug is on record for attempting to keep the Stooge "look" going. > But unfortunately he's been pre-occupied (the details of which I am > not > familiar - I'm only inferring from what he has posted on his web > site). > Months ago I sent him a huge list of panels I'd like to buy from him. > But that's been close to a year now. > > (Hey Doug - if you're reading this, I hope your condition is not too > serious and you are getting better.) > > I haven't seen one of Doug's panels yet, so I don't know how close his > will ultimately be. As soon as I get one, I'll know. In the meantime, > I'll have a chance to see one of Paul's new panels soon enough > (probably > in front of the Cloud Generator). Once I see the new "look," it might > turn out that Scott's panels are well within the variation range that > I'll have to learn to live with. > > As an aside, I've got enough MOTM modules across several generations > to > verify differences in MOTM's own paint. It is really noticeable. I've > got some panels whose texture is a lot smoother than others. You can > really see the difference when they are side-by-side. Scott's paint > texture fits in the middle of the two extremes, and is more uniform. > The sputtering on Pauls panels can run from somewhat fine to quite > coarse. Scott's lettering font, however, is very different and very > apparent. > > Those are my observations, > -Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of > Mark > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 5:09 PM > To: MOTM litserv > Subject: RE: [motm] Looking for EFG-Deluxe panel > > I think you are missing something. I don't know about Doug, but > Scott Deyo is currently producing a large number of panels in MOTM > format. In fact, this past week I received a panel and bracket for > the CGS Tube VCA based on a design I suggested in August. While the > font used for its lettering is slightly different, the paint looks > the same as the Stooge and Synthesis Technology panels. Even the > holes are painted. I'm very happy with it. > > On 10/28/07, Greg James put forth: > >Am I missing something? As far as I know, neither Scott nor Doug have > >produced a MOTM/Stooge panel in at least a year. I know life has been > >taking a higher priority for these guys, but I think it's time we all > >just own up to the fact that new MOTM/Stooge panels are not going to > >happen anytime soon. > > > >Just to be clear, what I mean by MOTM/Stooge is replicating the paint > >and labeling as closely as possible. Not some "close" facsimile. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
2007-10-29 by Greg James
These are the prices I have from around that time. The "old"
prices are pre-2005 (late 2004?). The "new" prices are for
the period in question.
MODULE KIT KIT BUILT BUILT
(old) (new) (old) (new)
100 Noise Generator/Sample & Hold $125 $175
101 Noise Generator/Sample & Hold $189 $209 $299 $309
110 VCA/Ring Modulator $139 $199
120 Sub-Octave Multiplexer $189 $209 $289 $309
190 Dual VCA/Ring Modulator $199 $209 $299 $309
300 Ultra VCO $329 $349 $429 $449
310 uVCO $209 $219 $319 $319
320 VC LFO $159 $159 $289 $259
380 Quad LFO $129 $139 $199 $219
390 Dual LFO $129 $139 $199 $219
410 Triple Res Filter/Dual VC LFO $259 $289 $349 $389
420 VCF (LP/HP/Notch) $219 $239 $299 $339
440 VCF Discrete OTA LP w/VC Res $259 $289 $369 $389
480 Dual Cascaded State-Variable $279 $299 $399 $399
485 VCF (12db Sallen-Key) $209 $239 $299 $339
490 uVCF $169 $189 $249 $289
510 WaveWarper $269 $289 $379 $389
650 4-Channel Midi-CV Converter $499
700 Dual 2:1 VC Multiplexer $169 $179 $269 $279
800 ADSR Envelope Generator $109 $119 $179 $199
820 VC Lag Processor $189 $209 $289 $309
830 6:1/Dual 3:1 Audio/CV Mixer $199 $229 $299 $329
850 Pedal Interface $129 $129 $199 $229
890 uMixer $129 $129 $199 $209
900 Pwr Supply (+-15) $159 $170 $219 $229
910 Cascaded Multiple Panel $99 $109
940 Patch Panel $119 $119
950 Pwr Supply (+-15,+5) $169 $180 $229 $259
-Greg-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Michael Zacherl (aka TonTaub)
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 8:26 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [motm] Former Module Prices From July 2006?
Hey Hans,
thanks for reminding me! ;-)
From there I get the same motmcat5.pdf file like I already have and
also still can be downloaded from Paul's site.
But the prices just don't match with the fragments of my records. :-/
Michael.
On 29.10.2007 1:07 Uhr, loopcycle wrote:
> Hey Michael,
>
> Try the wayback machine if you cant find your answer:
>
> http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
>
> Hans
>
>
>
> --- "Michael Zacherl (aka TonTaub) " <egroups@...> wrote:
>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> in an desperate attempt to get my building backlog straight and mainly
>> reconstruct my "book-keeping" (I had some bad data loss) I'd need the
>> module prices from July last year (just before the kit sellout started).
>> I got a pdf catalog from July 2004 but I'm not sure if that's valid
>> information.
>>
>> Any useful information is welcome,
>>
>> thanks a lot, Michael.
>>
>>
--
nonconform? noiseconform: http://blauwurf.at/
Yahoo! Groups Links2007-10-29 by Michael Zacherl (aka TonTaub)
Brilliant! Thanks a lot! I started creeping (it's soooo sloooow) within the archived pages and funnily enough the webarchive displays a wrong price for the 310. :-) Michael. On 29.10.2007 1:56 Uhr, Greg James wrote: > These are the prices I have from around that time. The "old" > prices are pre-2005 (late 2004?). The "new" prices are for > the period in question. > > MODULE KIT KIT BUILT BUILT > (old) (new) (old) (new) > 100 Noise Generator/Sample & Hold $125 $175 > 101 Noise Generator/Sample & Hold $189 $209 $299 $309 > 110 VCA/Ring Modulator $139 $199 > 120 Sub-Octave Multiplexer $189 $209 $289 $309 > 190 Dual VCA/Ring Modulator $199 $209 $299 $309 > 300 Ultra VCO $329 $349 $429 $449 > 310 uVCO $209 $219 $319 $319 > 320 VC LFO $159 $159 $289 $259 > 380 Quad LFO $129 $139 $199 $219 > 390 Dual LFO $129 $139 $199 $219 > 410 Triple Res Filter/Dual VC LFO $259 $289 $349 $389 > 420 VCF (LP/HP/Notch) $219 $239 $299 $339 > 440 VCF Discrete OTA LP w/VC Res $259 $289 $369 $389 > 480 Dual Cascaded State-Variable $279 $299 $399 $399 > 485 VCF (12db Sallen-Key) $209 $239 $299 $339 > 490 uVCF $169 $189 $249 $289 > 510 WaveWarper $269 $289 $379 $389 > 650 4-Channel Midi-CV Converter $499 > 700 Dual 2:1 VC Multiplexer $169 $179 $269 $279 > 800 ADSR Envelope Generator $109 $119 $179 $199 > 820 VC Lag Processor $189 $209 $289 $309 > 830 6:1/Dual 3:1 Audio/CV Mixer $199 $229 $299 $329 > 850 Pedal Interface $129 $129 $199 $229 > 890 uMixer $129 $129 $199 $209 > 900 Pwr Supply (+-15) $159 $170 $219 $229 > 910 Cascaded Multiple Panel $99 $109 > 940 Patch Panel $119 $119 > 950 Pwr Supply (+-15,+5) $169 $180 $229 $259 > > -Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of > Michael Zacherl (aka TonTaub) > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 8:26 PM > To: motm@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [motm] Former Module Prices From July 2006? > > > Hey Hans, > > thanks for reminding me! ;-) > > From there I get the same motmcat5.pdf file like I already have and > also still can be downloaded from Paul's site. > But the prices just don't match with the fragments of my records. :-/ > > Michael. > > > On 29.10.2007 1:07 Uhr, loopcycle wrote: > >> Hey Michael, >> >> Try the wayback machine if you cant find your answer: >> >> http://www.archive.org/web/web.php >> >> Hans >> >> >> >> --- "Michael Zacherl (aka TonTaub) " <egroups@...> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> in an desperate attempt to get my building backlog straight and mainly >>> reconstruct my "book-keeping" (I had some bad data loss) I'd need the >>> module prices from July last year (just before the kit sellout started). >>> I got a pdf catalog from July 2004 but I'm not sure if that's valid >>> information. >>> >>> Any useful information is welcome, >>> >>> thanks a lot, Michael. >>> >>> >>> -- nonconform? noiseconform: http://blauwurf.at/
2007-10-29 by Greg James
I think I got the price for the "Built (old)" 320 wrong! I think it should be $259 instead of $289. Can someone verify?...
-----Original Message----- From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Michael Zacherl (aka TonTaub) Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 9:12 PM To: The MOTM Mailing List Subject: Re: [motm] Former Module Prices From July 2006? Brilliant! Thanks a lot! I started creeping (it's soooo sloooow) within the archived pages and funnily enough the webarchive displays a wrong price for the 310. :-) Michael. On 29.10.2007 1:56 Uhr, Greg James wrote: > These are the prices I have from around that time. The "old" > prices are pre-2005 (late 2004?). The "new" prices are for > the period in question. > > MODULE KIT KIT BUILT BUILT > (old) (new) (old) (new) > 100 Noise Generator/Sample & Hold $125 $175 > 101 Noise Generator/Sample & Hold $189 $209 $299 $309 > 110 VCA/Ring Modulator $139 $199 > 120 Sub-Octave Multiplexer $189 $209 $289 $309 > 190 Dual VCA/Ring Modulator $199 $209 $299 $309 > 300 Ultra VCO $329 $349 $429 $449 > 310 uVCO $209 $219 $319 $319 > 320 VC LFO $159 $159 $289 $259 > 380 Quad LFO $129 $139 $199 $219 > 390 Dual LFO $129 $139 $199 $219 > 410 Triple Res Filter/Dual VC LFO $259 $289 $349 $389 > 420 VCF (LP/HP/Notch) $219 $239 $299 $339 > 440 VCF Discrete OTA LP w/VC Res $259 $289 $369 $389 > 480 Dual Cascaded State-Variable $279 $299 $399 $399 > 485 VCF (12db Sallen-Key) $209 $239 $299 $339 > 490 uVCF $169 $189 $249 $289 > 510 WaveWarper $269 $289 $379 $389 > 650 4-Channel Midi-CV Converter $499 > 700 Dual 2:1 VC Multiplexer $169 $179 $269 $279 > 800 ADSR Envelope Generator $109 $119 $179 $199 > 820 VC Lag Processor $189 $209 $289 $309 > 830 6:1/Dual 3:1 Audio/CV Mixer $199 $229 $299 $329 > 850 Pedal Interface $129 $129 $199 $229 > 890 uMixer $129 $129 $199 $209 > 900 Pwr Supply (+-15) $159 $170 $219 $229 > 910 Cascaded Multiple Panel $99 $109 > 940 Patch Panel $119 $119 > 950 Pwr Supply (+-15,+5) $169 $180 $229 $259 > > -Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of > Michael Zacherl (aka TonTaub) > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 8:26 PM > To: motm@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [motm] Former Module Prices From July 2006? > > > Hey Hans, > > thanks for reminding me! ;-) > > From there I get the same motmcat5.pdf file like I already have and > also still can be downloaded from Paul's site. > But the prices just don't match with the fragments of my records. :-/ > > Michael. > > > On 29.10.2007 1:07 Uhr, loopcycle wrote: > >> Hey Michael, >> >> Try the wayback machine if you cant find your answer: >> >> http://www.archive.org/web/web.php >> >> Hans >> >> >> >> --- "Michael Zacherl (aka TonTaub) " <egroups@...> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> in an desperate attempt to get my building backlog straight and mainly >>> reconstruct my "book-keeping" (I had some bad data loss) I'd need the >>> module prices from July last year (just before the kit sellout started). >>> I got a pdf catalog from July 2004 but I'm not sure if that's valid >>> information. >>> >>> Any useful information is welcome, >>> >>> thanks a lot, Michael. >>> >>> >>> -- nonconform? noiseconform: http://blauwurf.at/ Yahoo! Groups Links
2007-10-30 by Robert van der Kamp
Hi all,
I own an Oakley env. follower combined with two-way lag processor,
and it works great.
But I really don't like the standard panel that comes with it. So
much that I refuse to mount it in the cabinet. ;)
Does anyone have a true MOTM style panel (with the beloved MOTM
paint) for sale for this module? Or is there a way to order one,
somewhere?
Thanks,
Rober