MOTM

hello,

i just thought i'd chime in and let you know, in case you were  
interested, that Shawn has taken on my MOTM-compliant modules at his  
Haven of Analogue. the Yves Usson Gate Delay and Post-Lawsuit Lowpass  
Filter have been available for a few months now. now there's also an  
MOTM-compliant manifestation of the Mankato Filter, which is a 4-pole  
lowpass filter with positive and negative taps on every pole to allow  
for not only 4 simultaneous filter slopes, but in full regeneration  
the filter can function as an _octature_ oscillator ... 8 outputs of  
sine (or something similar depending on how strong the regeneration  
is) 45 degrees from one another. its Fc ranges from subaudio  
(measured in seconds or minutes per cycle ... i don't have the  
patience to give an exact figure. low enough to function as a slew  
generator) to superaudio.

there appears to be a sales page at

http://www.analoguehaven.com/stgsoundlabs/

don't be scared by all the photos of frac rack modules. the Gate  
Delay, P-L/LPF, and Mankato Filter all have cart links for the MOTM  
variant on the sales pages.

in a few weeks he'll have in stock the Wave Folder which is based on  
a JH licenced circuit. it's pretty cool as well and there are several  
of them in the wild already, folding sines into wiggly scope lines  
like nobody's business!

thanks very much,
---
Suit & Tie Guy
suitandtieguy.com
stgsoundlabs.com

Impressive, young padawan.

Moe

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:38 AM, Suit & Tie Guy
<erwill@...> wrote:

> hello,
>
>   Mankato Filter, which is a 4-pole
>  lowpass filter with positive and negative taps on every pole to allow
>  for not only 4 simultaneous filter slopes, but in full regeneration
>  the filter can function as an _octature_ oscillator ... 8 outputs of
>  sine (or something similar depending on how strong the regeneration
>  is) 45 degrees from one another. its Fc ranges from subaudio
>  (measured in seconds or minutes per cycle .

Mr. Suit & Tie

 Those modules seem pretty cool...I back Paul's stuff but new different modules are always 
exciting in the world of MOTM. I've been checking out yr. modules over the last year or so 
and they look rad.

 Question:

 I was wondering just how close the panels are to the MOTM format...does the paint match 
Paul's?  I like a uniform system...that's what had kept me from jumping the gun on some 
of the Bridechamber things as well. Cyndustries nailed it with the ZO and now the 
Sawtooth Animator(...not my deal on the SA) and now the Lo Pass Gates will be here soon.

 As we wait for some new MOTM stuff like the Cloud Generator and that 700 something 
Interpol...?Scanner...? that I still have no idea what it is but will probably get anyways...It's 
cool to 3rd party the MOTM party.

 I wish Stooge Panels were taking orders.

David Scott Stone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Scott_Stone
http://www.myspace.com/sirdsssound




--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Suit & Tie Guy <erwill@...> wrote:

>
> hello,
> 
> i just thought i'd chime in and let you know, in case you were  
> interested, that Shawn has taken on my MOTM-compliant modules at his  
> Haven of Analogue. the Yves Usson Gate Delay and Post-Lawsuit Lowpass  
> Filter have been available for a few months now. now there's also an  
> MOTM-compliant manifestation of the Mankato Filter, which is a 4-pole  
> lowpass filter with positive and negative taps on every pole to allow  
> for not only 4 simultaneous filter slopes, but in full regeneration  
> the filter can function as an _octature_ oscillator ... 8 outputs of  
> sine (or something similar depending on how strong the regeneration  
> is) 45 degrees from one another. its Fc ranges from subaudio  
> (measured in seconds or minutes per cycle ... i don't have the  
> patience to give an exact figure. low enough to function as a slew  
> generator) to superaudio.
> 
> there appears to be a sales page at
> 
> http://www.analoguehaven.com/stgsoundlabs/
> 
> don't be scared by all the photos of frac rack modules. the Gate  
> Delay, P-L/LPF, and Mankato Filter all have cart links for the MOTM  
> variant on the sales pages.
> 
> in a few weeks he'll have in stock the Wave Folder which is based on  
> a JH licenced circuit. it's pretty cool as well and there are several  
> of them in the wild already, folding sines into wiggly scope lines  
> like nobody's business!
> 
> thanks very much,
> ---
> Suit & Tie Guy
> suitandtieguy.com
> stgsoundlabs.com
>

On Apr 30, 2008, at 3:40 PM, earthtodylan2000 wrote:
> exciting in the world of MOTM. I've been checking out yr. modules  
> over the last year or so
> and they look rad.

thanks very much.

>  I was wondering just how close the panels are to the MOTM  
> format...does the paint match
> Paul's?

these panels are manufactured using a photo-aluminum process nearly  
identical to the Moog systems on the 1960s, and therefore do not use  
any paint in the manufacturing process. it is an anodised aluminum  
finish whose artwork is rated to over 10 years of direct solar  
radiation and as such is certified for exterior legending on the  
International Space Station. outdoors on planet earth they wouldn't  
fade for 60 years. if used indoors they will never fade, and the  
artwork will never rub off .. though they can be scratched.

these are logistically MOTM-compliant: they fit in MOTM-19A rails  
with 8-32 3/4" machine screws and use a 4-position MTA-156 header for  
15 volt power. they will not match for finish or fonts, and violate  
the MOTM knobs-and-jacks grid.
---
Suit & Tie Guy
suitandtieguy.com
stgsoundlabs.com

> I was wondering just how close the panels are to the MOTM format...does the paint match 
>Paul's?  I like a uniform system...

Uniform, eh? Which version of the MOTM "standard" do you like? My small array of MOTM modules exhibits a variety of fonts, labeling styles (above or below the jacks?), and "tick marks" around the knobs. It's not exactly a consistent system.

Uniform it ain't. (But I love it anyway.)

John

Mr. S&T

Hmmm... They sound like they would fit better in a Moog system then.

When I was asking about MOTM format I should of kept it to the paint, knobs. Jack grids 
get a pass in my book.

Is the "MOTM compliant" modules the same for .com systems as well?

Dave

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Scott_Stone
http://www.myspace.com/sirdsssound
 




--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Suit & Tie Guy <erwill@...> wrote:

>
> On Apr 30, 2008, at 3:40 PM, earthtodylan2000 wrote:
> > exciting in the world of MOTM. I've been checking out yr. modules  
> > over the last year or so
> > and they look rad.
> 
> thanks very much.
> 
> >  I was wondering just how close the panels are to the MOTM  
> > format...does the paint match
> > Paul's?
> 
> these panels are manufactured using a photo-aluminum process nearly  
> identical to the Moog systems on the 1960s, and therefore do not use  
> any paint in the manufacturing process. it is an anodised aluminum  
> finish whose artwork is rated to over 10 years of direct solar  
> radiation and as such is certified for exterior legending on the  
> International Space Station. outdoors on planet earth they wouldn't  
> fade for 60 years. if used indoors they will never fade, and the  
> artwork will never rub off .. though they can be scratched.
> 
> these are logistically MOTM-compliant: they fit in MOTM-19A rails  
> with 8-32 3/4" machine screws and use a 4-position MTA-156 header for  
> 15 volt power. they will not match for finish or fonts, and violate  
> the MOTM knobs-and-jacks grid.
> ---
> Suit & Tie Guy
> suitandtieguy.com
> stgsoundlabs.com
>

John,

 My medium sized system (...36 and counting) does have a uniformity in regards to paint, 
silkscreening, jacks, knobs, switches, layout...etc.  Like I said for the most part.  I imaging 
when Paul has switched vendors things change a little bit.  

 You should post some pictures of the variations so we can all learn about the differences 
in MOTM history.  What's that early MOTM one that's now discontinued maybe a VCA 
Noise or Ring Mod that didn't have tick marks...almost a "swoosh" for the amount was it a 
MOTM-100(I forget)...and that crazy person who had a blue or purple system...

Dave
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Scott_Stone
http://www.myspace.com/sirdsssound


  



--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, John Mahoney <jmahoney@...> wrote:
>
> > I was wondering just how close the panels are to the MOTM format...does the paint 
match 
> >Paul's?  I like a uniform system...
> 
> Uniform, eh? Which version of the MOTM "standard" do you like? My small array of 
MOTM modules exhibits a variety of fonts, labeling styles (above or below the jacks?), and 
"tick marks" around the knobs. It's not exactly a consistent system.

> 
> Uniform it ain't. (But I love it anyway.)
> 
> John
>

i get module blindness if everything is uniform. i like a standard 
knob/jack layout field but i colour-code modules by manufacturer and 
cables by function.

hence my synth looks like a fruit salad :-)

>as long as they sound good I don't really care how "uniform" they are.
>
>wes
>
>www.heartshorses.com
>www.parkavenuemusic.com

My rig is somewhat similar.  I was opposed to it at first, but now I 
really dig the color variety.  

All mixed together... 
MOTM & Encore - Black
Oakley - Annodized Blue
Modcan - White

-Larry



--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Jason Proctor <jason@...> wrote:
>
> i get module blindness if everything is uniform. i like a standard 
> knob/jack layout field but i colour-code modules by manufacturer and 
> cables by function.
> 
> hence my synth looks like a fruit salad :-)
> 
> 
> >as long as they sound good I don't really care how "uniform" they 
are.

> >
> >wes
> >
> >www.heartshorses.com
> >www.parkavenuemusic.com
>

On Apr 30, 2008, at 6:58 PM, earthtodylan2000 wrote:
> Hmmm... They sound like they would fit better in a Moog system then.

probably not. they're in increments of 1.75" in width and have 7/32"  
mounting holes in the corners as opposed to increments of 2.125" in  
width and 3/16" mounting holes in the centres. they would mount in  
and be powered by a Moog system about as well as Doepfer modules  
would mount in an MOTM frame.

> Is the "MOTM compliant" modules the same for .com systems as well?

these MOTM-compliant modules have synthesizers.com power connectors  
on them as well, but i make Synthesizers.com/Moog specific physically  
formatted modules as well. those modules' cosmetics are very similar  
to Trumansburg-era Moog modules as opposed to the MOTM-compliant  
modules we're talking about here, which are not based on any pre- 
existing synthesiser cosmetics.

when i had these MOTM-compliant modules listed on ebay, i had several  
people message me through the service and ask why i didn't make "real  
MOTM modules." well, Paul Schreiber makes real MOTM modules and does  
a fabulous job of it. that's why i stress these are "MOTM- 
compliant" ... they fit and they work. this doesn't mean they look  
the same.

to be honest i hesitate even using the ambiguous acronym "MOTM" as it  
is a practical word mark of Mr Schreiber. however plenty of people  
seem to throw it around as a description of the format of panels in  
increments of 8.25" x 1.75" which have 7/32" holes which correspond  
to the 8-32 machine screw holes on the MOTM-19A rack rails and accept  
bipolar 15 volt power over an _industry-standard_ MTA156 header.  
however to put all of that in the product name would be quite  
ridiculous. if this offends anyone i'm sorry.

i just don't believe in leaving a format out in the cold if it's a  
simple matter of a faceplate, and that's the way these modules are  
designed. 1 PCB can be used for potentially 4 different formats with  
only 3 power headers, so i make these units available in  
Synthesizers.com, frac rack, and MOTM format ... and Euro isn't far  
behind (the power connector footprint is on the PCB. i just have to  
get a system for proper testing and calibration.) that doesn't mean i  
expect anyone to buy them ... Frank Zappa said it was important to  
merely make your art/craft/whatever available to satisfy your  
obligation. Shawn was gracious enough to take on a few pieces to make  
them instantly available as opposed to waiting for me to get around  
to building them as it was before he took the (admittedly small) line  
on.
---
Suit & Tie Guy
suitandtieguy.com
stgsoundlabs.com