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Need help on planning MOTM modular.

Need help on planning MOTM modular.

2009-02-06 by argitoth

Hello, I'm looking to start a MOTM modular system, but I'd like to 
have a VC-ADSR module. Is there any way to get something like this 
that will work with MOTM?

Re: [motm] Need help on planning MOTM modular.

2009-02-06 by Stephen Drake

Out of the box, no. If you can do some diy, you could rework a blacet vc eg into motm format, and then you'd be set.
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On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:07 PM, argitoth <argitoth@...> wrote:
Hello, I'm looking to start a MOTM modular system, but I'd like to
have a VC-ADSR module. Is there any way to get something like this
that will work with MOTM?



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RE: [motm] Need help on planning MOTM modular.

2009-02-06 by John L Rice

Hi Argitoth,

Oakley makes a kit. And the Moon Modular one looks really nice but it's
DotCom/Moog/COTK/etc sized so you'd have plan ahead how you'd fit the wider
width into your rack.

John L Rice
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From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
argitoth
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:07 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] Need help on planning MOTM modular.

Hello, I'm looking to start a MOTM modular system, but I'd like to 
have a VC-ADSR module. Is there any way to get something like this 
that will work with MOTM?



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Re: [motm] Need help on planning MOTM modular.

2009-02-06 by ach_gott@yahoo.com

Also, krisp1 sells these as fully assembled. There's a PIC (iirc and I'm not next to the instrument to check) based VC-ADSR available from Modcan that I use and quite like.

Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld.

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From: "John L Rice"
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:46:33 -0800
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [motm] Need help on planning MOTM modular.

Hi Argitoth,

Oakley makes a kit. And the Moon Modular one looks really nice but it's
DotCom/Moog/COTK/etc sized so you'd have plan ahead how you'd fit the wider
width into your rack.

John L Rice

-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
argitoth
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:07 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] Need help on planning MOTM modular.

Hello, I'm looking to start a MOTM modular system, but I'd like to
have a VC-ADSR module. Is there any way to get something like this
that will work with MOTM?

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Re: [motm] Need help on planning MOTM modular.

2009-02-06 by p. hendricks

On Feb 5, 2009, at 8:07 PM, argitoth wrote:

> Hello, I'm looking to start a MOTM modular system, but I'd like to
> have a VC-ADSR module. Is there any way to get something like this
> that will work with MOTM?
http://tinyurl.com/cf6rm2
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Re: Need help on planning MOTM modular.

2009-02-06 by jneilnyc

I got a pair of the Oakley VC-ADSRs from krisp1 in some nice
Bridechamber panels, and they're pretty sweet.  Not only is the
voltage control handy, but I got mine with the optional switch between
fast and slow envelope times, for more options when doing long, drifty
stuff.

They came fast and were built immaculately.  And with the pound being
down, the price was right even for shipment to the US.

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, ach_gott@... wrote:
>
> Also, krisp1 sells these as fully assembled.  There's a PIC (iirc
and I'm not next to the instrument to check) based VC-ADSR available
from Modcan that I use and quite like.
> 
> Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "John L Rice" <Drummer@...>
> 
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:46:33 
> To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [motm] Need help on planning MOTM modular.
> 
> 
> Hi Argitoth,
> 
> Oakley makes a kit. And the Moon Modular one looks really nice but it's
> DotCom/Moog/COTK/etc sized so you'd have plan ahead how you'd fit
the wider
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> width into your rack.
> 
> John L Rice
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> argitoth
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:07 PM
> To: motm@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [motm] Need help on planning MOTM modular.
> 
> Hello, I'm looking to start a MOTM modular system, but I'd like to 
> have a VC-ADSR module. Is there any way to get something like this 
> that will work with MOTM?
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

Re: Need help on planning MOTM modular.

2009-02-06 by jneilnyc

(I assume this was meant to go to the list...)

From: Argitoth <argitoth@gmail.com>
To: jneilnyc <jneil@...>

Thanks for the help!

So, I want to DIY my first module, 310 uVCO to be specific. Besides
solder and tools, what do I buy from MOTM to make it possible to
complete a module?

-PCB
-Front Panel
-Extra Parts
-Knobs
-PWR-20 4-conductor power cable?
-BR-1 Large Bracket?
-Wire Assortment???
-etc.????


On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:18 PM, jneilnyc <jneil@...> wrote:
>
> I got a pair of the Oakley VC-ADSRs from krisp1 in some nice
> Bridechamber panels, and they're pretty sweet. Not only is the
> voltage control handy, but I got mine with the optional switch between
> fast and slow envelope times, for more options when doing long, drifty
> stuff.
>
> They came fast and were built immaculately. And with the pound being
> down, the price was right even for shipment to the US.
>
> --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, ach_gott@... wrote:
>>
>> Also, krisp1 sells these as fully assembled. There's a PIC (iirc
> and I'm not next to the instrument to check) based VC-ADSR available
> from Modcan that I use and quite like.
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "John L Rice" <Drummer@...>
>>
>> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:46:33
>> To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: [motm] Need help on planning MOTM modular.
>>
>>
>> Hi Argitoth,
>>
>> Oakley makes a kit. And the Moon Modular one looks really nice but it's
>> DotCom/Moog/COTK/etc sized so you'd have plan ahead how you'd fit
> the wider
>> width into your rack.
>>
>> John L Rice
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
>> argitoth
>> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:07 PM
>> To: motm@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [motm] Need help on planning MOTM modular.
>>
>> Hello, I'm looking to start a MOTM modular system, but I'd like to
>> have a VC-ADSR module. Is there any way to get something like this
>> that will work with MOTM?
>>


--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "jneilnyc" <jneil@...> wrote:
>
> 
> I got a pair of the Oakley VC-ADSRs from krisp1 in some nice
> Bridechamber panels, and they're pretty sweet.  Not only is the
> voltage control handy, but I got mine with the optional switch between
> fast and slow envelope times, for more options when doing long, drifty
> stuff.
> 
> They came fast and were built immaculately.  And with the pound being
> down, the price was right even for shipment to the US.
> 
> --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, ach_gott@ wrote:
> >
> > Also, krisp1 sells these as fully assembled.  There's a PIC (iirc
> and I'm not next to the instrument to check) based VC-ADSR available
> from Modcan that I use and quite like.
> > 
> > Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "John L Rice" <Drummer@>
> > 
> > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:46:33 
> > To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: RE: [motm] Need help on planning MOTM modular.
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Argitoth,
> > 
> > Oakley makes a kit. And the Moon Modular one looks really nice but
it's
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> > DotCom/Moog/COTK/etc sized so you'd have plan ahead how you'd fit
> the wider
> > width into your rack.
> > 
> > John L Rice
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > argitoth
> > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:07 PM
> > To: motm@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [motm] Need help on planning MOTM modular.
> > 
> > Hello, I'm looking to start a MOTM modular system, but I'd like to 
> > have a VC-ADSR module. Is there any way to get something like this 
> > that will work with MOTM?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>

Re: [motm] Re: Need help on planning MOTM modular.

2009-02-06 by Stephen Drake

Assuming this was to go to the list, you've got the basics from MOTM mostly, I'd add a hardware assortment. Also check the bracket size - I think the 310 uses the smaller one, but I may be wrong.

I'd also recommend considering doing an easier module for a first effort. This one is fairly expensive, has a bunch of parts that need to be sourced correctly, and has a bunch of really tight solders, and is pretty hard to debug if something goes wrong. 800's are quite different - inexpensive and easy, and good practice. Also perhaps the 380 and 390.

Whatever you build, you might want to ask here if anyone has a BOM for mouser part numbers - that'll help you get going.
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On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:28 AM, jneilnyc <jneil@jneil.com> wrote:
(I assume this was meant to go to the list...)

From: Argitoth <argitoth@...>
To: jneilnyc <jneil@...>

Thanks for the help!

So, I want to DIY my first module, 310 uVCO to be specific. Besides
solder and tools, what do I buy from MOTM to make it possible to
complete a module?

-PCB
-Front Panel
-Extra Parts
-Knobs
-PWR-20 4-conductor power cable?
-BR-1 Large Bracket?
-Wire Assortment???
-etc.????




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Re: Need help on planning MOTM modular.

2009-02-06 by wjhall11

Hi there - we have a MOTM800 mouser-oriented BOM that we were
developing and could be used for reference.  here:
http://www.dragonflyalley.com/images/MOTM800/MOTM800BOM.xls

But this BOM might be a little confusing... so if you really want to
use it, we'll review it and finish it up.

Will and I first built a power supply.  Then an 830.  That turned out
to be a great into module.  Then we then built our 800s - but we
immediately complicated them by adding modifications... also a great
learning experience - but unnecessary.

But even with a power supply and those two modules built, you don't
have anything that makes sound yet, of course <g>.  So I understand
your interest in an oscillator right away but if you're really just
starting out, I'd advise to get a couple of the simpler modules out of
the way first.  You'd need an EG (800) for your oscillator anyway...

If you're truly starting out - and starting out with DIY in general,
we could look over where we bought our tools and everything over the
weekend.  And send you the URLs - I think we got everything but some
allen wrenches online.

And if you tell us the module you want to start with, we'll put
together a Mouser-BOM for you to get you started.

We have lots of pictures on our site that might be helpful.

http://www.dragonflyalley.com

We recently completed our 310s but we haven't tested them yet.

Let us know if we can help somehow.

Oh - and yes - the 310 takes the smaller bracket and also involves
installing a tempco resistor - not difficult, but you'd need the
special "silicone grease" to do it.

Bill (and Will in absentia)




--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Stephen Drake <makeme1witheverything@...>
wrote:
>
> Assuming this was to go to the list, you've got the basics from MOTM
mostly,
> I'd add a hardware assortment. Also check the bracket size - I think
the 310
> uses the smaller one, but I may be wrong.
> I'd also recommend considering doing an easier module for a first
effort.
> This one is fairly expensive, has a bunch of parts that need to be
sourced
> correctly, and has a bunch of really tight solders, and is pretty
hard to
> debug if something goes wrong. 800's are quite  different -
inexpensive and
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> easy, and good practice. Also perhaps the 380 and 390.
> 
> Whatever you build, you might want to ask here if anyone has a BOM for
> mouser part numbers - that'll help you get going.
> 
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:28 AM, jneilnyc <jneil@...> wrote:
> 
> > (I assume this was meant to go to the list...)
> >
> > From: Argitoth <argitoth@...>
> > To: jneilnyc <jneil@...>
> >
> > Thanks for the help!
> >
> > So, I want to DIY my first module, 310 uVCO to be specific. Besides
> > solder and tools, what do I buy from MOTM to make it possible to
> > complete a module?
> >
> > -PCB
> > -Front Panel
> > -Extra Parts
> > -Knobs
> > -PWR-20 4-conductor power cable?
> > -BR-1 Large Bracket?
> > -Wire Assortment???
> > -etc.????
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Stephen Drake
> sduck409@...
> makeme1witheverything@...
>

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