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Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by Paul Schreiber

After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for a DIY/pc board only 
(or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've decided 
to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.

For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as the 
MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.

In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel controls 
but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board size 
*unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very* dense.

There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and 
voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed* 
outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.

Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser and 
they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but again not 
an issue.

So, one last 'poll':

What would you rather see *first*:

a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?

b) the SEM VCF boards?

c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?

Paul S.

Re: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by Miguel Mendoza

My choice:

1. Cloud Generator

2. FFB/EQ

3. Another filter

Cheers!

Miguel Mendoza.

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From: Paul Schreiber

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Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 1:30 AM

Subject: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for a DIY/pc board only
(or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've decided
to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.

For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as the
MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.

In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel controls
but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board size
*unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very* dense.

There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and
voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed*
outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.

Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser and
they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but again not
an issue.

So, one last 'poll':

What would you rather see *first*:

a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?

b) the SEM VCF boards?

c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?

Paul S.

RE: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by Greg James

Now that's a hard one - seriously! I don't care, I'm in for all of them.

-Greg

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From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Schreiber
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:30 PM
To: MOTM List
Subject: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for a DIY/pc board only 
(or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've decided 
to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.

For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as the 
MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.

In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel controls 
but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board size 
*unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very* dense.

There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and 
voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed* 
outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.

Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser and 
they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but again not 
an issue.

So, one last 'poll':

What would you rather see *first*:

a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?

b) the SEM VCF boards?

c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?

Paul S.

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Re: Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by Girts R

I would like to see the Cloud first.

Girts

Re: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by Jeff Laity

SEM. I'm a filter fool.

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On Feb 16, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Paul Schreiber wrote:

> After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for a DIY/pc  
> board only
> (or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've  
> decided
> to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.
>
> For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as the
> MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.
>
> In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel  
> controls
> but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board size
> *unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very* dense.
>
> There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and
> voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed*
> outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.
>
> Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser  
> and
> they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but  
> again not
> an issue.
>
> So, one last 'poll':
>
> What would you rather see *first*:
>
> a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?
>
> b) the SEM VCF boards?
>
> c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?
>
> Paul S.
>

Re: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by Stephen Drake

I most certainly want the SEM vcf first and foremost.

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On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> wrote:

After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for a DIY/pc board only
(or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've decided
to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.

For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as the
MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.

In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel controls
but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board size
*unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very* dense.

There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and
voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed*
outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.

Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser and
they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but again not
an issue.

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Stephen Drake
sduck409@...
makeme1witheverything@...

Re: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by Jason Proctor

1. isn't the Cloud basically done? i saw it work at AHBA 2007, 1.5 
years ago. seems sensible to start with that.

2. SEM VCF in traditional thru-hole solder-the-world format

3. FFB/EQ, ideally with some quirks, like selectable personalities or something

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>After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for a DIY/pc board only
>(or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've decided
>to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.
>
>For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as the
>MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.
>
>In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel controls
>but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board size
>*unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very* dense.
>
>There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and
>voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed*
>outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.
>
>Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser and
>they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but again not
>an issue.
>
>So, one last 'poll':
>
>What would you rather see *first*:
>
>a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?
>
>b) the SEM VCF boards?
>
>c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?
>
>Paul S.
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Re: Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by contexmedia

> So, one last 'poll':
> 
> What would you rather see *first*:
> 

c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory

Niklas

Re: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by eric f

I would go for C then B then A.  But really they should be prioritized in terms of time to market.  

cheers,
eric f

--- On Mon, 2/16/09, Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> wrote:

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From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...t>
Subject: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'
To: "MOTM List" <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 6:30 PM

            After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for a DIY/pc board only 

(or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've decided 

to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.

For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as the 

MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.

In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel controls 

but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board size 

*unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very* dense.

There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and 

voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed* 

outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.

Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser and 

they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but again not 

an issue.

So, one last 'poll':

What would you rather see *first*:

a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?

b) the SEM VCF boards?

c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?

Paul S.

Re: [motm] Re: Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by Chip Gremillion

Cloud Generator
Chip

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On 2/16/09 5:04 PM, "contexmedia" <niklas.thulin@...> wrote:

>  
>  
> 
>> > So, one last 'poll':
>> > 
>> > What would you rather see *first*:
>> > 
> 
> c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory
> 
> Niklas
> 
>   
>     
> 
>>

Re: Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by gerry_kuhn

For my interests:

1.  SEM VCF
2.  Cloud Generator (a close 2nd)

But I would be about 1 year away from an SEM VCF purchase, in case that influences 
things.

   Gerry

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...> wrote:

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>
> After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for a DIY/pc board only 
> (or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've decided 
> to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.
> 
> For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as the 
> MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.
> 
> In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel controls 
> but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board size 
> *unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very* dense.
> 
> There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and 
> voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed* 
> outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.
> 
> Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser and 
> they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but again not 
> an issue.
> 
> So, one last 'poll':
> 
> What would you rather see *first*:
> 
> a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?
> 
> b) the SEM VCF boards?
> 
> c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?
> 
> Paul S.
>

RE: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by John L Rice

d) MOTM-600 micro sequencer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(of course, I realize I may be overly confident in assuming that Paul wont
be motivated enough to actually throw a brick 'up hill' from Texas and hit
me in the head in Washington! ;-)


OK, out of the choices given and taking into account that I'm a filter
junky:

1st - b) the SEM VCF boards
The SEM filter's features sound really exciting to me and I would buy it
without hearing it first since I trust in Paul to make an awesome sounding
filter! Hopefully Synth Tech, Bride Chamber and / or Doug W. front panels
will be easily obtainable?


2nd - a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards
I've wanted a FFB for a long time but my synth configuration plans have
always been easily swayed by anything that becomes available that I think
might be 'cooler'! (see above ;-)

Here is a side note on the FFB concept. Paul has asked for some module that
no one has available. One thing that has puzzled me is why there are no
voltage controlled FFBs??? (at least as far as I've seen) I don't mean
controlling the frequency, but just the amount, same as the knob does. I
think you would be able to do some amazingly realistic vocal and acoustic
instrument simulations with 2 to 8 FFB channels under computer or sequencer
control and using random voltages, quantized or not, the possibilities for
unique sound design seems vast!  So maybe the MOTM FFB circuit board could
just provide headers for an expansion panel? Seems like if you left out the
low and high pass channels, you could take a stock 1U multiples panel and
re-label it for the other 8 freq. range CV inputs and also provide direct
outs for those same 8 channels. I'd love to have this, is it feasible??? If
it was . . . I might want the FFB before the SEM VCF! ;-)


3rd - c) the assembled Cloud Generator 
While this one seems pretty cool to me, it really hasn't "grabbed" me very
hard. I'm not sure why. Maybe I don't totally get the concept or I haven't
heard a definitive sample yet? I always get excited when I read the
explanations of modules like the Cloud Generator, or saw animators or the
Zero oscillator etc but when I hear any of the samples I just sort of go
"meh". Maybe it's primarily because I'm a percussionist first, but I'd much
rather spend money on more sequencers, arpeggiators, pulse dividers and
switchers etc (and of course filers!) 


John L Rice

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-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Schreiber
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 4:30 PM
To: MOTM List
Subject: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for a DIY/pc board only 
(or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've decided 
to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.

For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as the 
MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.

In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel controls 
but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board size 
*unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very* dense.

There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and 
voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed* 
outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.

Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser and 
they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but again not 
an issue.

So, one last 'poll':

What would you rather see *first*:

a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?

b) the SEM VCF boards?

c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?

Paul S.

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Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by Richard Brewster

1. Cloud Generator

Richard Brewster

Paul Schreiber wrote:

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> What would you rather see *first*:
>
> a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?
>
> b) the SEM VCF boards?
>
> c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?
>
> Paul S.
>

Re: Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by wjhall11

Hear, hear.

Will and I discussed it -

1. Cloud Generator ('cause it's nearly done, right?)
2. then we'd gladly take on the SEM VCF
3. then for sure the FFB (and that's almost done too, right?)

But we confess that we appreciate Mr Eldhardt's idea about the 1U
Parametric EQ that could be banked up three or four in a line.  Like
Ken, we have an interest in imitative synthesis and this sounds like a
unique offering (although perhaps fewer would be interested <shrug>).

But, Paul - what ever you end up doing, we'll support it.

Bill and Will


--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, eric f <ach_gott@...> wrote:
>
> I would go for C then B then A.  But really they should be
prioritized in terms of time to market.  
> 
> cheers,
> eric f
> 
> --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> wrote:
> From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
> Subject: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'
> To: "MOTM List" <motm@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 6:30 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     
>             After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for
a DIY/pc board only 
> 
> (or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've
decided 
> 
> to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.
> 
> 
> 
> For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as the 
> 
> MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.
> 
> 
> 
> In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel
controls 
> 
> but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board size 
> 
> *unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very* dense.
> 
> 
> 
> There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and 
> 
> voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed* 
> 
> outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.
> 
> 
> 
> Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser
and 
> 
> they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but
again not

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> 
> an issue.
> 
> 
> 
> So, one last 'poll':
> 
> 
> 
> What would you rather see *first*:
> 
> 
> 
> a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?
> 
> 
> 
> b) the SEM VCF boards?
> 
> 
> 
> c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?
> 
> 
> 
> Paul S.
>

[motm] Re: Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by Scott K Warren

I vote for this order:

1. SEM VCF
2. FFB
3. Cloud Generator

But I also want to second Bill & Will's enthusiasm for a modular  
parametric EQ with voltage control!

skw

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On Feb 16, 2009, at 8:50 PM, wjhall11 wrote:

> Hear, hear.
>
> Will and I discussed it -
>
> 1. Cloud Generator ('cause it's nearly done, right?)
> 2. then we'd gladly take on the SEM VCF
> 3. then for sure the FFB (and that's almost done too, right?)
>
> But we confess that we appreciate Mr Eldhardt's idea about the 1U
> Parametric EQ that could be banked up three or four in a line.  Like
> Ken, we have an interest in imitative synthesis and this sounds like a
> unique offering (although perhaps fewer would be interested <shrug>).
>
> But, Paul - what ever you end up doing, we'll support it.
>
> Bill and Will
>
>
> --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, eric f <ach_gott@...> wrote:
>>
>> I would go for C then B then A.  But really they should be
> prioritized in terms of time to market.
>>
>> cheers,
>> eric f
>>
>> --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> wrote:
>> From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
>> Subject: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'
>> To: "MOTM List" <motm@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 6:30 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>            After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for
> a DIY/pc board only
>>
>> (or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've
> decided
>>
>> to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.
>>
>>
>>
>> For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as  
>> the
>>
>> MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.
>>
>>
>>
>> In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel
> controls
>>
>> but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board  
>> size
>>
>> *unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very*  
>> dense.
>>
>>
>>
>> There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and
>>
>> voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed*
>>
>> outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.
>>
>>
>>
>> Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser
> and
>>
>> they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but
> again not
>>
>> an issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, one last 'poll':
>>
>>
>>
>> What would you rather see *first*:
>>
>>
>>
>> a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?
>>
>>
>>
>> b) the SEM VCF boards?
>>
>>
>>
>> c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul S.
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

RE: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by Aardvark

For me it's

1) FFB

 

2) SEM VCF

 

3) Cloud Generator

 

I'll still be happy if the SEM was 1st. I'm just not sure I could justify
dropping 500 bucks on a Cloud Generator that I have no current use for.
Maybe if there were some super cool samples to demonstrate the it's
abilities and characteristics it might peek my interest!

 

Al

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From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Schreiber
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:30 PM
To: MOTM List
Subject: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for a DIY/pc board only 
(or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've decided 
to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.

For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as the 
MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.

In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel controls 
but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board size 
*unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very* dense.

There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and 
voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed* 
outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.

Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser and 
they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but again not 
an issue.

So, one last 'poll':

What would you rather see *first*:

a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?

b) the SEM VCF boards?

c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?

Paul S.

Re: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by George Kisslak

My choices, in order, are:

1) Dual VCA w/Pan/Fade
2) Pulse Divider
3) uVCO

Huh? Oh, whoops! That was my list from 2001.
Ok, my list is:

1) Dual VCA w/Pan/Fade
2) Envelope Follower/Compressor
3) Rhythm Wheel
4) JH interpolating scanner
5) JH-5 style dual LPF
6) VC Phase Shifter

Crap, that was from 2003.
Uhm.. ok, try this:

1) Pulse Width Multiplier
2) VC Ratio Divider
3) Dual 10000s Delay
4) Matrix-12 15-mode VCF
5) Munging Decimator
6) Vibrato Source

Ah frack!! That was 2005.
Ok, for real this time:

1) Cloud Gen
2) SEM VCF
3) Rhythm Whee..err, I mean FFB/parametric EQ boards

George (having a difficult time focusing)


Paul Schreiber wrote:

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> After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for a DIY/pc board only 
> (or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've decided 
> to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.
> 
> For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as the 
> MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.
> 
> In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel controls 
> but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board size 
> *unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very* dense.
> 
> There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and 
> voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed* 
> outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.
> 
> Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser and 
> they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but again not 
> an issue.
> 
> So, one last 'poll':
> 
> What would you rather see *first*:
> 
> a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?
> 
> b) the SEM VCF boards?
> 
> c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?
> 
> Paul S.

Re: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by Chip Gremillion

Cloud Gen.
FFB

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On 2/16/09 10:08 PM, "George Kisslak" <groovyshaman@...> wrote:

>  
>  
> 
> My choices, in order, are:
> 
> 1) Dual VCA w/Pan/Fade
> 2) Pulse Divider
> 3) uVCO
> 
> Huh? Oh, whoops! That was my list from 2001.
> Ok, my list is:
> 
> 1) Dual VCA w/Pan/Fade
> 2) Envelope Follower/Compressor
> 3) Rhythm Wheel
> 4) JH interpolating scanner
> 5) JH-5 style dual LPF
> 6) VC Phase Shifter
> 
> Crap, that was from 2003.
> Uhm.. ok, try this:
> 
> 1) Pulse Width Multiplier
> 2) VC Ratio Divider
> 3) Dual 10000s Delay
> 4) Matrix-12 15-mode VCF
> 5) Munging Decimator
> 6) Vibrato Source
> 
> Ah frack!! That was 2005.
> Ok, for real this time:
> 
> 1) Cloud Gen
> 2) SEM VCF
> 3) Rhythm Whee..err, I mean FFB/parametric EQ boards
> 
> George (having a difficult time focusing)
> 
> Paul Schreiber wrote:
>> > After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for a DIY/pc board only
>> > (or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've decided
>> > to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.
>> > 
>> > For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as the
>> > MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.
>> > 
>> > In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel controls
>> > but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board size
>> > *unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very* dense.
>> > 
>> > There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and
>> > voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed*
>> > outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.
>> > 
>> > Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser and
>> > they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but again not
>> > an issue.
>> > 
>> > So, one last 'poll':
>> > 
>> > What would you rather see *first*:
>> > 
>> > a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?
>> > 
>> > b) the SEM VCF boards?
>> > 
>> > c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?
>> > 
>> > Paul S.
>   
>     
> 
>>

Re: Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by Eric Frampton

Those modules in that order. I'm in for all of them.

e

> What would you rather see *first*:
>
> a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?
>
> b) the SEM VCF boards?
>
> c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?

--
Eric Frampton, keyboards     Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://www.ericframpton.com

Re: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by thomas white

Cloud Generator for me!

SEM will be cool too.

I no longer need the FFB (thought it was dead in the water and built a Moog clone from Yves Yusson)

Thomas White

Natural Rhythm
www.naturalrhythmmusic.com

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--- On Mon, 2/16/09, Paul Schreiber wrote:

From: Paul Schreiber
Subject: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'
To: "MOTM List"
Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 4:30 PM

After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for a DIY/pc board only
(or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've decided
to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.

For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as the
MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.

In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel controls
but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board size
*unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very* dense.

There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and
voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed*
outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.

Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser and
they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but again not
an issue.

So, one last 'poll':

What would you rather see *first*:

a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?

b) the SEM VCF boards?

c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?

Paul S.

Re: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by ROV PILOT

cumulo nimbus generator for me !

--- On Mon, 2/16/09, Paul Schreiber wrote:

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From: Paul Schreiber
Subject: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'
To: "MOTM List"
Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 6:30 PM

After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for a DIY/pc board only
(or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've decided
to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.

For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as the
MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.

In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel controls
but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board size
*unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very* dense.

There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and
voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed*
outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.

Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser and
they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but again not
an issue.

So, one last 'poll':

What would you rather see *first*:

a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?

b) the SEM VCF boards?

c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?

Paul S.

Re: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by Marc Bareille

Hi ,

1) FFB but only  if it have  CV I/Os on each bands... Else i will go do
my  own design...
2) Cloud Generator ...why not  i seems to be an interesting /innovative
module anyway ! but no DIY  = ggrrr ;)

not interested into the SEM VCF , to much simple to clone and over
listened VCF .... I already  designed a big one by the time   for the
(ex) AnalogLab french compagny ... It was the Xpass filterII , based on
13700 too to replace their first version who was made with CA3080 like
the vintage  , but never released because the compagny has sunk before !
Sorry Paul, but you are coming too late here for me...  No flame
indeed... I still love what you do :)

Thanks

Marc B.



Paul Schreiber a \ufffdcrit :

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> After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for a DIY/pc board only 
> (or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've decided 
> to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.
>
> For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as the 
> MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.
>
> In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel controls 
> but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board size 
> *unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very* dense.
>
> There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and 
> voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed* 
> outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.
>
> Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser and 
> they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but again not 
> an issue.
>
> So, one last 'poll':
>
> What would you rather see *first*:
>
> a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?
>
> b) the SEM VCF boards?
>
> c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?
>
> Paul S.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by cormallen

a) Parametric EQ.
b) Cloud Generator.
c) SEM VCF


I have quite a lot of filters in my MOTM (7 at the last count), so I
probably wouldn't buy a SEM VCF unless the general reaction on this
list was 'this is the best filter I've ever heard'.

That said, I'd probably buy an FFB (am building a YuSynth FFB, but I
can see myself wanting two).

I'd *definitely* buy at least one Parametric EQ module.  In fact, if
you could do a 1U module built with SMT to get the cost down to
something like $200 then I'd buy at least three of them.

Harry

Re: Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by ivancu@aol.com

SEM please!




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Re: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by Charles Stella

1. SEM
2. FFB
3. Cloud

Thanks!

Charles.


On Feb 16, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Paul Schreiber wrote:

> After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for a DIY/pc  
> board only
> (or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've  
> decided
> to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.
>
> For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as the
> MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.
>
> In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel  
> controls
> but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board size
> *unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very* dense.
>
> There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and
> voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed*
> outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.
>
> Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser  
> and
> they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but  
> again not
> an issue.
>
> So, one last 'poll':
>
> What would you rather see *first*:
>
> a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?
>
> b) the SEM VCF boards?
>
> c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?
>
> Paul S.
>
>
> 

Charles Stella

http://www.charlesstella.net

http://www.amygdalahijack.com

http://www.myspace.com/charlesstella

http://www.myspace.com/amygdalahijackmusic.com

cstella@...

Re: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by James Elliott

1) SEM (CV controlled morph - ummmm YEA!!!!!)
2) FFB (Only if it has CV Controlled bands)
3) Cloud




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From: Charles Stella <cstella@...>
To: MOTM List <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:50:38 AM
Subject: Re: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

1. SEM
2. FFB
3. Cloud

Thanks!

Charles.

On Feb 16, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Paul Schreiber wrote:

After reading everyone's inputs for what is desired for a DIY/pc board only 
(or module, but all in old fashioned through-hole technology) I've decided 
to work on the SEM VCF with Voltage-Controlled Output Morphing.

For all you solder jockeys out there, it will be as complicated as the 
MOTM-480 VCF. But with *more* parts. Yippee.

In order to take advantage of all it can do, it will have 6 panel controls 
but 11 jacks. I plan to use a standard BR-1 bracket/MOTM pc board size 
*unless* the layout goes south and won't fit. It will be *very* dense.

There will be 2 audio inputs, voltage-controlled resonance and 
voltage-controlled output morphing (along with HP/BP/LP/Notch *fixed* 
outputs). The MORPH sweeps between HP/BP/LP on a dedicated output.

Even though it uses 'vintage' op amps, I just checked Digikey/Mouser and 
they have tons in stock. There are several LM13700 dual OTAs but again not 
an issue.

So, one last 'poll':

What would you rather see *first*:

a) some sort of FFB/parametric EQ boards?

b) the SEM VCF boards?

c) the Cloud Generator in all it's assembled SMT glory?

Paul S.

Charles Stella

http://www.charless tella.net

http://www.amygdalahijack. com

http://www.myspace. com/charlesstell a

http://www.myspace. com/amygdalahija ckmusic.com

cstella@mac. com

RE: [motm] Results of the 'user poll'

2009-02-17 by Erik Olson

#1: Cloud Generator

The prospect of this capability is what got me started on MOTM in the first place!
;
I haven't been keeping up well with the modular synth world the last few years. Are there any other options out there for this sort of capability?

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