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Moving into Modulars

Moving into Modulars

2000-04-10 by blacklotus@cstone.net

Folks, I am on the verge of purchasing a modular system from our own
beloved Paul. I just wanted some user perspective 
on this decision with respect to giving up my digital VA's with their
kerjillions of pre-sets (which is what I'd have to do to 
buy a modular before I turn 90!  =:-0) Pardon my ignorance in what
follows.

I do like the variety of sounds in my Jp8080 and Audity 2000 (which
is a software modular set-up--like it A LOT) ; the sound 
designers have done a fab job but.....its still "someone else's
sound, when I really want to make my own. My work is 
ambient/experimental/deep space/sound design. I do have hard-disk
recording (to a Mac / Pro Tools )  and a Boomerang 
Phrase sampling (with 4-minutes recording time ! So I can layer,
edit, and build as dense as I like (I like!). I'm confident I 
could get sounds I'd love out of a MOTM rig, and I love keeping patch
charts from my days with a Micro Moog and a Sonic Six, 
but still wonder if I'd be jones-ing for those "astoundingly lush
pads" that somebody else designed on my digital machines.  
Realizing this is all dependent on the MOTM modules that I'd have to
begin with, and after talking with Paul, I'm thinking:

180 	Sub Oct Mux
300 	VCO (x 2)
420    Filter
440   Filter
110   Ring Mod/VCA
800  Env Gen (x2)

PSU, Rails, Kenton Pro 2000, etc. 

All to be interfaced with a Lexicon Vortex, Korg AM8000R, Boss SX-700
(With Surround) and midi-driven by 2 Intercative Light 
Dimension Beams (infrared controllers).

Now, I could sample the patches I have created of course, and use
them from the Mac so I wouldn't lose "everything"  I like 
about the VA's.  I guess I'm asking, is the process of working on a
true modular "too" minimal for me (miss my lush pads?), 
or can I arrive at the same fullness and beauty with simply, more
elbow grease (gallons??) and creativity
on a mod. 

Thanks in advance,

John Hunter
Black Lotus Sound

RE: [motm] Moving into Modulars

2000-04-10 by Dave Bradley

I don't see a MOTM-100 in your list. You'll want a noise source to round out
your basic sonic toolbox. If budget is an issue, I'd delay one of the filter
purchases to get noise first. I can't say if you'll mis your pads, but a
whole new world of sound shaping and sculpting is about to open up for you.
Not being able to push a button to get an instant sound is actually very
liberating, forcing you into sonic experimentation.

Dave Bradley
Principal Software Engineer
Engineering Animation, Inc.
daveb@...
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> From: blacklotus@... [mailto:blacklotus@...]
> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 9:16 PM
> To: motm@egroups.com
> Subject: [motm] Moving into Modulars
>
>
> Folks, I am on the verge of purchasing a modular system from our own
> beloved Paul. I just wanted some user perspective
> on this decision with respect to giving up my digital VA's with their
> kerjillions of pre-sets (which is what I'd have to do to
> buy a modular before I turn 90!  =:-0) Pardon my ignorance in what
> follows.
>
>
> 180 	Sub Oct Mux
> 300 	VCO (x 2)
> 420    Filter
> 440   Filter
> 110   Ring Mod/VCA
> 800  Env Gen (x2)
>
> PSU, Rails, Kenton Pro 2000, etc.
>

RE: [motm] Moving into Modulars

2000-04-10 by David Bivins

You may want to think *hard* about getting a 410 filter. In fact, if you can
hold off on the 120 (suboctmux) and get the 100 (as Bradley I think
suggested) and 410, you may be closer to what you want. Hmmm... no LFO
either. Maybe:

100 Noise/S&H
300 VCO (x2)
320 LFO
410 TRF
440 LPF
110 VCA/RM
800 EG (x2)

That's a little more expensive than your configuration, but I think you'd
appreciate the 410 for your "astoundingly lush pads" and for its general
oddness (using it fixed is wonderful too!). If you're keeping at least one
polysynth, you can certainly go far running it through this configuration!

David.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: blacklotus@... [mailto:blacklotus@...]
> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 8:16 PM
> To: motm@egroups.com
> Subject: [motm] Moving into Modulars
>
>
> Folks, I am on the verge of purchasing a modular system from our own
> beloved Paul. I just wanted some user perspective
> on this decision with respect to giving up my digital VA's with their
> kerjillions of pre-sets (which is what I'd have to do to
> buy a modular before I turn 90!  =:-0) Pardon my ignorance in what
> follows.
>
> I do like the variety of sounds in my Jp8080 and Audity 2000 (which
> is a software modular set-up--like it A LOT) ; the sound
> designers have done a fab job but.....its still "someone else's
> sound, when I really want to make my own. My work is
> ambient/experimental/deep space/sound design. I do have hard-disk
> recording (to a Mac / Pro Tools )  and a Boomerang
> Phrase sampling (with 4-minutes recording time ! So I can layer,
> edit, and build as dense as I like (I like!). I'm confident I
> could get sounds I'd love out of a MOTM rig, and I love keeping patch
> charts from my days with a Micro Moog and a Sonic Six,
> but still wonder if I'd be jones-ing for those "astoundingly lush
> pads" that somebody else designed on my digital machines.
> Realizing this is all dependent on the MOTM modules that I'd have to
> begin with, and after talking with Paul, I'm thinking:
>
> 180 	Sub Oct Mux
> 300 	VCO (x 2)
> 420    Filter
> 440   Filter
> 110   Ring Mod/VCA
> 800  Env Gen (x2)
>
> PSU, Rails, Kenton Pro 2000, etc.
>
> All to be interfaced with a Lexicon Vortex, Korg AM8000R, Boss SX-700
> (With Surround) and midi-driven by 2 Intercative Light
> Dimension Beams (infrared controllers).
>
> Now, I could sample the patches I have created of course, and use
> them from the Mac so I wouldn't lose "everything"  I like
> about the VA's.  I guess I'm asking, is the process of working on a
> true modular "too" minimal for me (miss my lush pads?),
> or can I arrive at the same fullness and beauty with simply, more
> elbow grease (gallons??) and creativity
> on a mod.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> John Hunter
> Black Lotus Sound
>
>
>
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