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Re: [motm] Decal/ was: MOTM as billboard

Re: [motm] Decal/ was: MOTM as billboard

2000-04-12 by jwbarlow@aol.com

In a message dated 4/12/2000 6:09:44 AM, ken.tkacs@... writes:

>One thing you might be able to do, Paul, if you wanted one otherwise 'blank'
>panel in a system to bear the logo is to offer a separate decal that could
>be applied. This could be something like a bumper sticker, but I know when
>I
>used to do capital projects for May Company we used a machine that created
>these things called "Adgrafixes."


This is a great idea, Ken!

>You feed it a design, and the blade cuts it into the colored vinyl just
>deep
>enough to not score the waxed backing. Then you can peel off the part you
>want, apply it to glass, plastic, metal, anything, and it's semi-permanent
>(you can get it off with a lot of solvent and elbow grease).

>We bought our own machine, but I was led to believe that sign shops could
>bang these things out for you while-U-wait for not much money.


I asked about something like this at printing shops and sign shops (those 
which do plastic laminated signs), and neither one could help. I specifically 
mentioned decals (I didn't know the name of the machine) and brought in a 
MOTM panel for reference. They said they couldn't make anything as small as 
the dial indicators.

But your idea is great! If one can find someone who'd do this work, maybe we 
could get a sheet made up with the SYNTHESIS TECHNOLOGIES logo, and several 
dial indicators, switch "boxes, and a bunch of words (like: VC IN, FM, AM, 
OUT, VCO, VCA, DUAL, VCF, BARLOW ROCKS!, SEQUENCER, EG, etc.) which we could 
then copy and "distribute" (or Paul could sell) to MOTM users. These labels 
could then be stuck directly on to a blank front panel. 

I know that the old style Serge panels were made with similarly styled sheets 
with many different labels and graphics on them. The master labels (at 150% 
scale) which were (literally) cut and pasted to a velum over a light box. 
This master velum was photocopied and reduced to scale, and a panel label for 
each module was made from this. I have some of these old graphic masters if 
one wants to know what specifically is on them.

JB

Re: [motm] Decal/ was: MOTM as billboard

2000-04-12 by jwbarlow@aol.com

In a message dated 4/12/2000 8:05:19 AM, ken.tkacs@... writes:

>The idea of a sheet with all that stuff on it is pretty cool... I don't
>know
>at what level of detail the cutter can get down to as a practical matter,
>though. But they would be sharp and long-wearing. 

Yeah, the single sheet idea (which I stole from Serge T. -- obvious why one 
would do this given the state of graphics in the early eighties and the cost 
of color reproductions) is a pretty good, "one size fits all," solution.

My thought being, the method that cuts the "Fender" logo for the decals that 
go on the machine heads of their guitars, could easily cut decals for dial 
indicators and the like. Unfortunately, no one I've talked to seems to know 
how those decals are made.

>I wonder what Gerber Scientific is getting for one of those cutters. It
>just
>hooked to a parallel port like a printer.

Might not be too cheap if there's no market.
JB
BTW, Steve, I think a lot of people are buying blanks to do their own custom 
front panels or multiples. Hence, our interest in getting similar MOTM style 
panel markings.

RE: [motm] Decal/ was: MOTM as billboard

2000-04-12 by Dave Bradley

I talked to a local sign shop awhile back that uses vinyl cutters, and they
said there is no way to reproduce text as small as needed for a MOTM panel.
The smallest text they could do was 1/2" tall.

I'm currently working on an economical true silkscreening solution for the
DIYers amongst us.

Dave Bradley
Principal Software Engineer
Engineering Animation, Inc.
daveb@...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jwbarlow@... [mailto:jwbarlow@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 10:47 AM
> To: motm@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [motm] Decal/ was: MOTM as billboard
>
>
>
> In a message dated 4/12/2000 8:05:19 AM, ken.tkacs@... writes:
>
> >The idea of a sheet with all that stuff on it is pretty cool... I don't
> >know
> >at what level of detail the cutter can get down to as a practical matter,
> >though. But they would be sharp and long-wearing.
>
> Yeah, the single sheet idea (which I stole from Serge T. --
> obvious why one
> would do this given the state of graphics in the early eighties
> and the cost
> of color reproductions) is a pretty good, "one size fits all," solution.
>
> My thought being, the method that cuts the "Fender" logo for the
> decals that
> go on the machine heads of their guitars, could easily cut decals
> for dial
> indicators and the like. Unfortunately, no one I've talked to
> seems to know
> how those decals are made.
>
> >I wonder what Gerber Scientific is getting for one of those cutters. It
> >just
> >hooked to a parallel port like a printer.
>
> Might not be too cheap if there's no market.
> JB
> BTW, Steve, I think a lot of people are buying blanks to do their
> own custom
> front panels or multiples. Hence, our interest in getting similar
> MOTM style
> panel markings.
>
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