Re: [motm] Vocal Formants
2000-08-02 by Nathan Alan Hunsicker
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2000-08-02 by Nathan Alan Hunsicker
Do these formants stay constant regardless of pitch, or are they relative to pitch? -Nate Paul Schreiber wrote:
> FYI: > > (Vowel Sound/First Formant/Second/Third) Freq in Hz. > > ee/270/2290/3010 > i/390/1990/2550 > e/530/1840/2480 > ae/660/1720/2410 > ah/730/1090/2440 > aw/570/840/2410 > u/440/1020/2240 > oo/300/870/2240 > > >From ancient Bell Labs stuff. > > Paul S.
2000-08-03 by jwbarlow@aol.com
In a message dated 8/1/2000 5:10:43 PM, etan@... writes: >Do these formants stay constant regardless of pitch, or are they >relative to pitch? -Nate Since I didn't see an answer to this, I'll just ramble on -- especially with the list so quiet. Yes Nate, these would change relative to pitch. I find formants get way too much press amongst EM users since they are so closely related to the kinds of stuff that we know (frequencies, spectrograms, resonance). These are a very small part of phonetics since they really only relate to vowels, but they're cool because you can study them empirically. Some (hopefully) interesting excerpts about formants from Peter Laderfoged's book "A Course in Phonetics" 2nd edition 1982: "In the first part of this chapter I described how differences in pitch and loudness can be recorded. Now we must consider the differences in quality. A set of vowel sounds provides a suitable starting point, since vowels can all be said on the same pitch and with the same loudness. "The quality of a sound such as a vowel depends upon its overtone structure. Putting it another way, we can say that a vowel sound contains a number of different pitches simultaneously. There is the pitch at which it is actually spoken, and there are the various overtone pitches that give it its distinctive quality. We distinguish one vowel from another by the differences in the overtones that are audible. "Normally, one cannot hear the separate overtones of a vowel as distinguishable pitches. The only sensation of pitch is the note on which the vowel said, which depends on the rate of vibration (the frequency) of the vocal cords. But there are circumstances in which the characteristic overtone structure of each vowel can be heard. Try saying the vowels" [sorry, I don't know how to get this keyboard to produce the International Phonetic Alphabet] "as in the words 'heed, hid, head, had, hod, hawed, hood, who'd.' Now whisper these vowels. In a whispered sound the vocal cords are not vibrating, and there is no regular pitch of the voice. Nevertheless, when you whisper these vowels you can hear that they form a series of sounds on a continuously descending pitch. What you are hearing is one of the overtones that characterize the vowels. This particular overtone is highest for [i] and lowest for [u], with the other words in the series being in between. Now try whistling a very high note, and then the lowest note that you can. You will find that for the high note you have your tongue in the position for [i] -- but of course with the lips rounded, as in the vowel in the French word 'tu' -- and for the low note your lips and tongue are in the [u] position. Again, intermediate notes would have the tongue positions of the other vowels in the series." And of course [i] is the IPA spelling for the vowel sound in "heed" while [u] is the vowel sound in "who'd." Now back to MTOM speak! JB
>Paul Schreiber wrote: > >> FYI: >> >> (Vowel Sound/First Formant/Second/Third) Freq in Hz. >> >> ee/270/2290/3010 >> i/390/1990/2550 >> e/530/1840/2480 >> ae/660/1720/2410 >> ah/730/1090/2440 >> aw/570/840/2410 >> u/440/1020/2240 >> oo/300/870/2240 >> >> >From ancient Bell Labs stuff. >