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Re: [motm] Midi CV convertors

2000-08-07 by J. Larry Hendry

Several people here have the Expressionist and love it.  I will let them
expound.  I have the Kenton pro-2000 and find it VERY well suited for a full
2-voice synth.  You can control more voices, but it is best suited for 2
voice.  I like the assignability of the aux outputs, including triggers, not
just gates.  The Kenton pro-2000 is not well suited for full polyphonic
operation as it offers no voice rotation.  In the Kenton line you might want
to step up to the pro 4 if you want more than 2 voices on a regular basis.
However, my pocketbook is not suited for a full polyphonic MOTM, so the
pro-2000 was perfect for me.   The accuracy of the Kenton is excellent.  I
have no complaints.

Congratulations on your MOTM purchase.

Larry Hendry


----- Original Message -----
From: <bigw@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 10:07 PM
Subject: [motm] Midi CV convertors


I will initially use my Waldorf Pulse plus as a midi to cv convertor, but
was
wondering If i could get some opinions on the JKJ, Encore, and Kenton stuff.
Thx
Jim

bigw@... wrote:

> Thought I would share my order with everyone:
> 2 300 VCO's
> 1 320 LFO
> 1 120 Sub Octave Multiplexor
> 1 100 Ring Modulator
> 2 800 Envelopes
> 1 440 Low pass Filter
> 1 900 Power Supply
> 2 pr of rails
> all this and just $40 over budget.
> I probally would of gotten the Noise/S & H unit, but Paul is redesigning
> this so I thought I would wait, I hope to add the MS filter next and more
> VCO/LFO modules  later. Paul was nice  enough to spend 2 hrs on the phone
> tonite to talk about everthing from favorite bands, future modules,
company
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> philosophy, to finally my system   : ) Thx Paul !!!!!  Cany wait for the
> mixer, the devider, the sequencer, and other modules to come out!!
> Jim

Re: [motm] Midi CV convertors

2000-08-07 by alt-mode

Jim,

All the MIDI/CV converters you list are excellent choices and I don't think you
would go wrong with any of them.  I have the Encore and it works wonderfully.  Kyle
Jarger, maker of the JKJ is a friend of mine and he does great work.  I think it is
a matter of what you are looking for.  I kinda put them into the following
classifications:

JKJ - Great for single voice stuff and fairly inexpensive
Kenton - Great for one to two voices works well (I'm only going on heresay on this
one, I haven't used one myself)
Encore - The biggest and most expensive.  You can't go wrong but it will cost more. 
If Tony would add exponential portamento and a SoundDiver adaptation, it would be
heaven!  Note, these are possible since it only requires software.

That's my take.  Congrats on your MOTM purchase!

Eric
--- bigw@... wrote:
> I will initially use my Waldorf Pulse plus as a midi to cv convertor, but was
> wondering If i could get some opinions on the JKJ, Encore, and Kenton stuff.
> Thx
> Jim
> 
> bigw@... wrote:
> 
> > Thought I would share my order with everyone:
> > 2 300 VCO's
> > 1 320 LFO
> > 1 120 Sub Octave Multiplexor
> > 1 100 Ring Modulator
> > 2 800 Envelopes
> > 1 440 Low pass Filter
> > 1 900 Power Supply
> > 2 pr of rails
> > all this and just $40 over budget.
> > I probally would of gotten the Noise/S & H unit, but Paul is redesigning
> > this so I thought I would wait, I hope to add the MS filter next and more
> > VCO/LFO modules  later. Paul was nice  enough to spend 2 hrs on the phone
> > tonite to talk about everthing from favorite bands, future modules, company
> > philosophy, to finally my system   : ) Thx Paul !!!!!  Cany wait for the
> > mixer, the devider, the sequencer, and other modules to come out!!
> > Jim
> >
> > Nathan Hunsicker wrote:
> >
> > > For any aspiring Jean Michael Jarre fan, I'd recommend adding a
> > > second
> > > 300 VCO and the 440 VCF. I've been a customer since Dec 99 and just
> > > built my second VCO, The difference is amazing. A must for tuned
> > > intervals and ring modulation. And the 440 is excellent, I now have
> > > all
> > > three filters and for low pass, the 440 can't be beat (the 410 & 420
> > > are top notch as well) You don't have to buy everything at once,
> > > that's
> > > what I love about MOTM, my first modules were the 900 PS, the 420 VCF
> > > and an 800 EG, and I just keep adding to them every month or two.
> > > -Nate
> > >
> > > --- In motm@egroups.com, bigw@o... wrote:
> > > > I have recently been inspired by some friends to get into a modular
> > > system and
> > > > here I am.  : 0    I will be placing my order with Paul sometime
> > > soon and just
> > > > wanted to say hello. Actually my interestest in modular goes back
> > > to the Dr. Who
> > > > days and Ive always wanted an EMS but als never could afford one. I
> > > love all
> > > > types of electronic music and my tastes range from underworld to
> > > Jarre to
> > > > classic Moog recordings. to  I owe my recent inspiration for this
> > > purchase to
> > > > the fact my friend and synth mentor has a Moog 3 system and my
> > > recent listening
> > > > to Raymond Scott cd's  :
> > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004SYD
> > > 6/ref=cm_mp_wl/103-8567336-5385438?colid=26PWA1BPWT8VT
> > > >
> > > > and www.raymondscott.com
> > > > I have had great  conversations with Paul, Larry .G,  Dave Fulton
> > > and feeling
> > > > fully comfortable that the MOTM system is the one for me!  Im
> > > hoping to get some
> > > > of those crazy modular sounds from Mr. Scotts cd's and some of
> > > those crazy EMS
> > > > type sound effects. Any encouragement and module configuration
> > > recomendations
> > > > are very welcome and I look forward to sharing the MOTM experience
> > > with all of
> > > > you.
> > > > Jim
> > > > P.s. Paul has recommended the following system to satrt with any
> > > additional
> > > > recomendations ?
> > > > 1ea MOTM-900 Power Supply
> > > > 1ea MOTM-300 VCO
> > > > 1ea MOTM-320 VC LFO
> > > > 1ea MOTM-120 Sub-Octave Mux
> > > > 1ea MOTM-110 VCA/Ring Mod (mostly for the Ring Mod part)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > skinny bastard wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You think you have it bad! My apartment complex rewired the
> > > electrical
> > > > > system, and completely screwed it up. My MOTM will work
> > > everywhere BUT my
> > > > > apartment. Haven't played in almost two months.
> > > > >
> > > > > >(been away from my MOTM for 2 weeks now..... Jonesing to
> > > patch!!.. I had
> > > > > >only
> > > > > >played with my brand new 120 for one night before I had to
> > > leave!!!  I keep
> > > > > >telling myself just a few more days...)
> > > > >
> > > > > ______________________________________________
> > > __________________________
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> > > http://www.hotmail.com
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> > >
> > >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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RE: [motm] Midi CV convertors

2000-08-07 by Tony Karavidas

> JKJ - Great for single voice stuff and fairly inexpensive
> Kenton - Great for one to two voices works well (I'm only going
> on heresay on this
> one, I haven't used one myself)
> Encore - The biggest and most expensive.  You can't go wrong but
> it will cost more.
> If Tony would add exponential portamento and a SoundDiver
> adaptation, it would be
> heaven!  Note, these are possible since it only requires software.
>
> That's my take.  Congrats on your MOTM purchase!
>
> Eric

I am adding exponential portamento and many more features.  I'm not exactly
sure how I'm going to implement some of them, so it's going to take a bunch
of thought process before coding...(what a novel idea)

What is a SoundDiver adaptation? (I'm not familiar with the app)

Tony Karavidas
Encore Electronics

http://www.encoreelectronics.com

Designers of "The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet." -Keyboard Oct.
1997

RE: [motm] Midi CV convertors

2000-08-07 by James Holloway

SounDiver is a universal patch Editor/Librarian made by Emagic. I would
like to see a Soundiver adaptation for the expressionist too. Makes user
programming of midi equipment a breeze. See them at www.emagic.com.
will this be a user installable upgrade or do we need to buy new hardware?
Thanks


-- 
James Holloway
jimh54@... - email
(972) 993-2023 x1188 - voicemail/fax



---- "Tony Karavidas" <tony@...> wrote:
> 
> > JKJ - Great for single voice stuff and fairly inexpensive
> > Kenton - Great for one to two voices works well (I'm only going
> > on heresay on this
> > one, I haven't used one myself)
> > Encore - The biggest and most expensive.  You can't go wrong but
> > it will cost more.
> > If Tony would add exponential portamento and a SoundDiver
> > adaptation, it would be
> > heaven!  Note, these are possible since it only requires software.
> >
> > That's my take.  Congrats on your MOTM purchase!
> >
> > Eric
> 
> I am adding exponential portamento and many more features.  I'm not
> exactly
> sure how I'm going to implement some of them, so it's going to take
> a bunch
> of thought process before coding...(what a novel idea)
> 
> What is a SoundDiver adaptation? (I'm not familiar with the app)
> 
> Tony Karavidas
> Encore Electronics
> 
> http://www.encoreelectronics.com
> 
> Designers of "The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet." -Keyboard
> Oct.
> 1997
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: [motm] Midi CV convertors

2000-08-07 by alt-mode

--- Tony Karavidas <tony@...> wrote:
> I am adding exponential portamento and many more features.  I'm not exactly
> sure how I'm going to implement some of them, so it's going to take a bunch
> of thought process before coding...(what a novel idea)
>

Very cool!  You might want to contact David Wilson of the New England Synthesizer
Museum.  He came up with an algorithm for exponential portamento that is used in the
Studio Electronics ATC-1 and SE-1X.  I don't think there are any intellectual
property restrictions on it since all they gave David was an ATC-1 for the museum in
return for use of the algorithm.
 
> What is a SoundDiver adaptation? (I'm not familiar with the app)

An adaptation for SoundDiver is a device-dependent set of knob, switch, and slider
representations and their corresponding sysex strings (a variant of a Logic
Environment).  Adaptations can be made by anyone, theoretically, whereas SoundDiver
modules are DLLs that are created by Emagic programmers.  Modules are needed for
tougher modules and where more performance is desired.  Given the relative size of
the Expressionist sysex, an adaptation should be more than adequate.  Part of the
reason SoundDiver supports so many devices is because of adpatations developed by
3rd parties.  [They also put a picture of your product in the document of supported
devices - good free advertising.]

Eric



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RE: [motm] Midi CV convertors

2000-08-07 by Tony Karavidas

The Expressionist has FlashROM, so any update I do will be downloadable via
MIDI. You won't need to buy new hardware.

Tony Karavidas
Encore Electronics

http://www.encoreelectronics.com

Designers of "The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet." -Keyboard Oct.
1997
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Holloway [mailto:jimh54@...]
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:27 AM
> To: motm@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [motm] Midi CV convertors
>
>
> SounDiver is a universal patch Editor/Librarian made by Emagic. I would
> like to see a Soundiver adaptation for the expressionist too. Makes user
> programming of midi equipment a breeze. See them at www.emagic.com.
> will this be a user installable upgrade or do we need to buy new hardware?
> Thanks
>
>
> --
> James Holloway
> jimh54@... - email
> (972) 993-2023 x1188 - voicemail/fax
>
>
>
> ---- "Tony Karavidas" <tony@...> wrote:
> >
> > > JKJ - Great for single voice stuff and fairly inexpensive
> > > Kenton - Great for one to two voices works well (I'm only going
> > > on heresay on this
> > > one, I haven't used one myself)
> > > Encore - The biggest and most expensive.  You can't go wrong but
> > > it will cost more.
> > > If Tony would add exponential portamento and a SoundDiver
> > > adaptation, it would be
> > > heaven!  Note, these are possible since it only requires software.
> > >
> > > That's my take.  Congrats on your MOTM purchase!
> > >
> > > Eric
> >
> > I am adding exponential portamento and many more features.  I'm not
> > exactly
> > sure how I'm going to implement some of them, so it's going to take
> > a bunch
> > of thought process before coding...(what a novel idea)
> >
> > What is a SoundDiver adaptation? (I'm not familiar with the app)
> >
> > Tony Karavidas
> > Encore Electronics
> >
> > http://www.encoreelectronics.com
> >
> > Designers of "The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet." -Keyboard
> > Oct.
> > 1997
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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RE: [motm] Midi CV convertors

2000-08-07 by microtonal@worldnet.att.net

Tony,

Any chance the update will include support for the MIDI 
Tuning Dump standard?  This would allow remapping of 
microtonal scales from MIDI to CV.

John Loffink
microtonal@...
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> The Expressionist has FlashROM, so any update I do will be downloadable via
> MIDI. You won't need to buy new hardware.
> 
> Tony Karavidas
> Encore Electronics
> 
> http://www.encoreelectronics.com
> 
> Designers of "The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet." -Keyboard Oct.
> 1997
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Holloway [mailto:jimh54@...]
> > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:27 AM
> > To: motm@egroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [motm] Midi CV convertors
> >
> >
> > SounDiver is a universal patch Editor/Librarian made by Emagic. I would
> > like to see a Soundiver adaptation for the expressionist too. Makes user
> > programming of midi equipment a breeze. See them at www.emagic.com.
> > will this be a user installable upgrade or do we need to buy new hardware?
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > --
> > James Holloway
> > jimh54@... - email
> > (972) 993-2023 x1188 - voicemail/fax
> >
> >
> >
> > ---- "Tony Karavidas" <tony@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > JKJ - Great for single voice stuff and fairly inexpensive
> > > > Kenton - Great for one to two voices works well (I'm only going
> > > > on heresay on this
> > > > one, I haven't used one myself)
> > > > Encore - The biggest and most expensive.  You can't go wrong but
> > > > it will cost more.
> > > > If Tony would add exponential portamento and a SoundDiver
> > > > adaptation, it would be
> > > > heaven!  Note, these are possible since it only requires software.
> > > >
> > > > That's my take.  Congrats on your MOTM purchase!
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > >
> > > I am adding exponential portamento and many more features.  I'm not
> > > exactly
> > > sure how I'm going to implement some of them, so it's going to take
> > > a bunch
> > > of thought process before coding...(what a novel idea)
> > >
> > > What is a SoundDiver adaptation? (I'm not familiar with the app)
> > >
> > > Tony Karavidas
> > > Encore Electronics
> > >
> > > http://www.encoreelectronics.com
> > >
> > > Designers of "The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet." -Keyboard
> > > Oct.
> > > 1997
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [motm] Midi CV convertors

2000-08-07 by Thomas Hudson

Tony Karavidas wrote:

> What is a SoundDiver adaptation? (I'm not familiar with the app)
>

Emagic's Editor/Librarian.

I've actually started working on this. Thanks for including a good
sysex implementation and documenting it. I should have this
adaptation finished by this coming weekend. I'll make it available
for download.

Tomy

Re: [motm] Midi CV convertors

2000-08-08 by improv@peak.org

>Jim,
>
>All the MIDI/CV converters you list are excellent choices and I don't think you
>would go wrong with any of them.  I have the Encore and it works
>wonderfully.  Kyle
>Jarger, maker of the JKJ is a friend of mine and he does great work.  I
>think it is
>a matter of what you are looking for.  I kinda put them into the following
>classifications:
>
>JKJ - Great for single voice stuff and fairly inexpensive

I have an older JKJ CV-3 that I'm perfectly happy with. I honestly don't
use MIDI with the modular enough to justify something like the Encore box,
and the JKJ pretty much does what I need. And it was cheap.

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