MOTM

As many of you already know, MOTM style panels are being produced for some
popular modules by other manufacturers and for some D.I.Y. stuff.  Everyone
please express thanks to Dave Bradley (also known as Moe Stooge) for his
hard work and persistence to make this happen.  My role in this endeavor is
to collect orders and money to assist Dave so he does not have to do all the
work.  But, Dave is the guy behind the deal.  He is the greatest of all
stooges.  He deserves all the credit.
Here's the deal:

These panels will be made from regular MOTM blank panels purchased from
Paul.   So, Paul makes some cash and you get official MOTM metal and paint.
Dave's very thoughtful panel designs will be screened onto the blank MOTM
panels and made available to anyone who wants them.   Neither Dave nor I
have any agenda and neither will make a penny from this.  We are both very
fond of Paul's MOTM format and want our "other" modular gear to feel at home
by sharing the same MOTM format.  So, we are making these available as a
service to other MOTMers.

Here is what is available:

- Blacet Dark Star
- Blacet Time Machine
- Oakley 3 x 1 mixer (a 1U minimal implementation)
- DIY  831  3-IN, 3-OUT voltage shifter (my protoboard design)
- DIY  822  2-IN, 2-OUT voltage shifter (my protoboard design)
- Expressionist break out panel (Dave Bradley's brainchild)
- Wiard MiniWave (yes, I 've heard it is no longer available.  However, some
of you own the ones that were sold AND John Blacet has hinted he will try to
license the design from Grant).  John??....  Grant??.....  I will buy one!
hint, hint.  Please..... :)

These panel screens are available for viewing at:
 http://www.users.uswest.net/~daveb2

V-shift 822 and 831 DIY module documentation is available at:
http://www.modglin.com/larry

Please note that some of these panels do not have the cross hair drilling
guides.  The 822, 831, Time Machine and MiniWave DO.  The Dark Star, Oakley
Mixer, and Expressionist do NOT.  Also note that these panels DO NOT have
holes.  You have to drill them (they do have the 4 corner holes).  I have
agreed to drill some holes for a couple of you. So, don't freak.  But, I do
NOT want to get in that business unless you are truely needy or totally
mechanically declined.

If you want any of these panels, I need to hear from you privately NOW.   We
plan to order and print all the panels at one time, saving YOU money and
Dave many trips to the printer.  These may be available later, but the price
will be MUCH higher if you do do benefit from the savings of ordering
several at once.  I am planning to take panel requests for 7 days.  If you
have already told me that you want 822 or 831 panels, I do not need to hear
from you again.  I have saved all of your requests.

At the end of this week,  I will send out a confirmation note and a request
for your payment.   I need your money before we have the printing done.
Sorry to ask for the money up front.  But, we are only printing the exact
number of panels requested.  So, neither Dave or I am interested in getting
stuck with any leftovers.

If you have questions about panel layouts or features, e-mail me about the
831, 822.  Ask Dave about the others.  I can answer Oakley mixer panel
questions too.

How much does all this cost, you ask ??   A lot of thought went into how
best to recover the cost of this project so that each person paid as close
to possible to their "weighted" share.  All I can say is, you have to trust
that we are being fair and if it seems to high, no one is twisting your arm.
Remember that you are getting REAL MOTM blanks.  So, Paul is making some
cash for more MOTM R&D.  That should be incentive enough.

Here are the PER PANEL prices.  These include the blank panel, and the
screen printing.  Shipping is separate (see below):

Dark Star ------  $ 22
Expressionist ---  $ 22
Oakley Mix ----- $ 15
822 V-shift ----- $ 16
831 V-shift ----- $ 16
Mini Wave ----- $ 23
Time Machine -- $ 23

Note that blank prices are $11 and $18 plus shipping (1U and 2U
respectively).

USA shipping will be $4 per order, NOT per panel.  You UK guys will get a
private note concerning shipping cost when I send your confirmation.

The panels I have agreed to drill (you know who you are) need to pay and
extra $4 per order, NOT per panel since you will be paying for one extra leg
of shipping.

Send no money now.  Just send me your panel request PRIVATELY.  In 7 days, I
will send you a confirmation with your total due.  Depending on the number
ordered and my final shipping price from Paul the price could fluxuate a
little (up or down).  And again, if you have already told me you want 831
and 822 panels, you need not reply unless you want to ADD other panels.

Will other panels be available in the future?  Maybe, depending on interest.
When you send me your panel request, feel free to list any panels you would
like to see in the future.  Those of most notable response will probably be
next (if this all goes well and Moe Stooge is willing).

NOW, e-mail me and tell me what you want.

Thanks,
Stooge # 2 Larry

Thanks for the kind words, Larry. I just want to mention that if 
there is enough interest, and this current endeavor goes well, our 
next project will probably be some Oakley designs - VCO, MultiLadder 
and SuperLadder VCFs, WaveFolder, etc.

Moe

--- In motm@egroups.com, "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@i...> wrote:
> As many of you already know, MOTM style panels are being produced 
for some
> popular modules by other manufacturers and for some D.I.Y. stuff.  
Everyone
> please express thanks to Dave Bradley (also known as Moe Stooge) 
for his
> hard work and persistence to make this happen.  My role in this 
endeavor is
> to collect orders and money to assist Dave so he does not have to 
do all the
> work.  But, Dave is the guy behind the deal.  He is the greatest of 
all
> stooges.  He deserves all the credit.
> Here's the deal:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave Bradley <daveb@...>
> Thanks for the kind words, Larry.

You deserve it.

> I just want to mention that if there is enough interest,
> and this current endeavor goes well, our next project
> will probably be some Oakley designs - VCO,
>  MultiLadder and SuperLadder VCFs, WaveFolder, etc.

I am collecting suggestions.

Don't forget to send me YOUR order for panels too.  I want to be sure to
include yours in the total so that I have the right number of blanks coming
from Paul, etc.  However, instead of sending me any money, I will deduct
your cost from the $dollars I send you.  Of course, you get a $4 break per
panel as you don't have to pay the final shipping.  LOL... Go figure.

Larry H

>... our next project will probably be some Oakley designs - VCO,
MultiLadder and SuperLadder VCFs, WaveFolder, etc.

Nice one Dave. I'll certainly be interested in seeing how that goes.
Mail me if you want any mechanical details for pot sizes etc.

And another six circuits coming up in the next two months I hope.

Regards,

Tony Allgood  Penrith, Cumbria, England

Oakley Modular synth circuits
www.techrepairs.freeserve.co.uk/projects.htm

>Thanks for the kind words, Larry. I just want to mention that if
>there is enough interest, and this current endeavor goes well, our
>next project will probably be some Oakley designs - VCO, MultiLadder
>and SuperLadder VCFs, WaveFolder, etc.
>
>Moe

This is extremely cool, and I've just reserved a few panels from Larry. I
have a few Oakley PCB's coming, and here are some suggestions for future
panels:

a 1-unit Oakley AD/AR EG with 4pots (Attack, Decay, Attack, Release). I
chose to go this route instead of 3 EG's in a 2U panel, as on Tony's
website, because I thought the flexibility of seperate controls on the AD
and AR would be cool.

The Oakley triple VCA in a 2U panel.
>
>--- In motm@egroups.com, "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@i...> wrote:
>> As many of you already know, MOTM style panels are being produced
>for some
>> popular modules by other manufacturers and for some D.I.Y. stuff.
>Everyone
>> please express thanks to Dave Bradley (also known as Moe Stooge)
>for his
>> hard work and persistence to make this happen.  My role in this
>endeavor is
>> to collect orders and money to assist Dave so he does not have to
>do all the
>> work.  But, Dave is the guy behind the deal.  He is the greatest of
>all
>> stooges.  He deserves all the credit.
>> Here's the deal:
>
>
>

____________________________________________
Dave Trenkel : improv@...
Minus Web Site: http://listen.to/minusmusic
Minus MP3's: http://www.mp3.com/-minus-
____________________________________________

In a message dated 10/9/2000 10:09:00 PM, daveb@... writes:

>our 
>next project will probably be some Oakley designs - VCO, MultiLadder 
>and SuperLadder VCFs, WaveFolder, etc.
>

I agree with all these selections and would add the Blacet Frequency Divider 
-- which will still be very useful even when the MOTM VC Pulse Divider starts 
shipping. I also agree with the idea of a 1U 4 pot panel for the Oakley AD/AR 
module.

I also want to order a couple of the Miniwave panels, but will feel like a 
real Stooge if the modules never become available again.

If anyone is going to switch out a Blacet DSC front panel for the 
Bradley-MOTM panel, and wants to sell me that FP (cheap) let me know in the 
next couple of days to save me from ordering the MOTM style panel.

So Dave, are you doing the screening yourself, or are you just taking it to a 
silkscreen shop to have it done?

Wondering if Paul is going to have enough blank panels to cover the impending 
demand.
JB

Since the price between the screens already made up and the screens
yet 
to be made is minimal, do you think there is a chance that the
drilling 
guides could be added to the 3 panels currently missing guides? Also, 
does anyone else want to see front mounted midi jacks on the 
expressionist breakout panel? I'm looking to enclose the back of my 
rack and have all connections accessable from the front. Maybe 
something similar to this:

http://www.etanstudios.com/breakout.gif

Maybe I'm the only one, but I'd rather keep the din sync a din jack
and 
break it out to 1/4 inch jacks on a cable rather than on the panel.

PS: this is not meant to step on anyones toes, I just wanted to see
if 
anyone else would be interested in this format. -Nate


--- In motm@egroups.com, "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@i...> wrote:
> As many of you already know, MOTM style panels are being produced
for some
> popular modules by other manufacturers and for some D.I.Y. stuff. 
Everyone
> please express thanks to Dave Bradley (also known as Moe Stooge)
for his
> hard work and persistence to make this happen.  My role in this
endeavor is
> to collect orders and money to assist Dave so he does not have to
do all the
> work.  But, Dave is the guy behind the deal.  He is the greatest of
all
> stooges.  He deserves all the credit.
> Here's the deal:
> 
> These panels will be made from regular MOTM blank panels purchased
from
> Paul.   So, Paul makes some cash and you get official MOTM metal
and paint.
> Dave's very thoughtful panel designs will be screened onto the
blank MOTM
> panels and made available to anyone who wants them.   Neither Dave
nor I
> have any agenda and neither will make a penny from this.  We are
both very
> fond of Paul's MOTM format and want our "other" modular gear to
feel at home
> by sharing the same MOTM format.  So, we are making these available
as a
> service to other MOTMers.
> 
> Here is what is available:
> 
> - Blacet Dark Star
> - Blacet Time Machine
> - Oakley 3 x 1 mixer (a 1U minimal implementation)
> - DIY  831  3-IN, 3-OUT voltage shifter (my protoboard design)
> - DIY  822  2-IN, 2-OUT voltage shifter (my protoboard design)
> - Expressionist break out panel (Dave Bradley's brainchild)
> - Wiard MiniWave (yes, I 've heard it is no longer available. 
However, some
> of you own the ones that were sold AND John Blacet has hinted he
will try to
> license the design from Grant).  John??....  Grant??.....  I will
buy one!
> hint, hint.  Please..... :)
> 
> These panel screens are available for viewing at:
>  http://www.users.uswest.net/~daveb2
> 
> V-shift 822 and 831 DIY module documentation is available at:
> http://www.modglin.com/larry
> 
> Please note that some of these panels do not have the cross hair
drilling
> guides.  The 822, 831, Time Machine and MiniWave DO.  The Dark
Star, Oakley
> Mixer, and Expressionist do NOT.  Also note that these panels DO
NOT have
> holes.  You have to drill them (they do have the 4 corner holes). 
I have
> agreed to drill some holes for a couple of you. So, don't freak. 
But, I do
> NOT want to get in that business unless you are truely needy or
totally
> mechanically declined.
> 
> If you want any of these panels, I need to hear from you privately
NOW.   We
> plan to order and print all the panels at one time, saving YOU
money and
> Dave many trips to the printer.  These may be available later, but
the price
> will be MUCH higher if you do do benefit from the savings of
ordering
> several at once.  I am planning to take panel requests for 7 days. 
If you
> have already told me that you want 822 or 831 panels, I do not need
to hear
> from you again.  I have saved all of your requests.
> 
> At the end of this week,  I will send out a confirmation note and a
request
> for your payment.   I need your money before we have the printing
done.
> Sorry to ask for the money up front.  But, we are only printing the
exact
> number of panels requested.  So, neither Dave or I am interested in
getting
> stuck with any leftovers.
> 
> If you have questions about panel layouts or features, e-mail me
about the
> 831, 822.  Ask Dave about the others.  I can answer Oakley mixer
panel
> questions too.
> 
> How much does all this cost, you ask ??   A lot of thought went
into how
> best to recover the cost of this project so that each person paid
as close
> to possible to their "weighted" share.  All I can say is, you have
to trust
> that we are being fair and if it seems to high, no one is twisting
your arm.
> Remember that you are getting REAL MOTM blanks.  So, Paul is making
some
> cash for more MOTM R&D.  That should be incentive enough.
> 
> Here are the PER PANEL prices.  These include the blank panel, and
the
> screen printing.  Shipping is separate (see below):
> 
> Dark Star ------  $ 22
> Expressionist ---  $ 22
> Oakley Mix ----- $ 15
> 822 V-shift ----- $ 16
> 831 V-shift ----- $ 16
> Mini Wave ----- $ 23
> Time Machine -- $ 23
> 
> Note that blank prices are $11 and $18 plus shipping (1U and 2U
> respectively).
> 
> USA shipping will be $4 per order, NOT per panel.  You UK guys will
get a
> private note concerning shipping cost when I send your confirmation.
> 
> The panels I have agreed to drill (you know who you are) need to
pay and
> extra $4 per order, NOT per panel since you will be paying for one
extra leg
> of shipping.
> 
> Send no money now.  Just send me your panel request PRIVATELY.  In
7 days, I
> will send you a confirmation with your total due.  Depending on the
number
> ordered and my final shipping price from Paul the price could
fluxuate a
> little (up or down).  And again, if you have already told me you
want 831
> and 822 panels, you need not reply unless you want to ADD other
panels.
> 
> Will other panels be available in the future?  Maybe, depending on
interest.
> When you send me your panel request, feel free to list any panels
you would
> like to see in the future.  Those of most notable response will
probably be

> next (if this all goes well and Moe Stooge is willing).
> 
> NOW, e-mail me and tell me what you want.
> 
> Thanks,
> Stooge # 2 Larry

--- In motm@egroups.com, jwbarlow@a... wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 10/9/2000 10:09:00 PM, daveb@e... writes:
>
> So Dave, are you doing the screening yourself, or are you just 
taking it to a 
> silkscreen shop to have it done?

Screening? We don' need no steenkin screening! I'm just putting the 
panels on the floor, and dribbling paint from a couple of feet up. 
Very freeform artistic interpretations.

Not.

I'm using a professional screen printer whose son happens to be on 
this list. He thinks it's neat that we're "helping to save the Moog." 
He knows what it takes to screen metal, and I was very happy with the 
sharpness of the printing on my first run. 
 
> I also want to order a couple of the Miniwave panels, but will feel 
like a 
> real Stooge if the modules never become available again.
> 

Starting to look like Blacet will be offering the MiniWave soon. 
Check out the News page of his website for a preliminary announcement.

> 
> Wondering if Paul is going to have enough blank panels to cover the 
impending demand.

We are working with Paul to allow him to plan for the surge in panel 
orders. Hopefully it's under control.

Moe

--- In motm@egroups.com, "Nathan Hunsicker" <nate@e...> wrote:
> Since the price between the screens already made up and the screens
> yet 
> to be made is minimal, do you think there is a chance that the
> drilling 
> guides could be added to the 3 panels currently missing guides? 
Also, 
> does anyone else want to see front mounted midi jacks on the 
> expressionist breakout panel? I'm looking to enclose the back of my 
> rack and have all connections accessable from the front

In regards to drilling: the first screen was designed to be used with 
a metal plate drilling guide that I had made up. The first panels 
made were predrilled before screening. This caused the printer some 
problems, so we have switched to the drill guides for the new screen 
designs. I may be able to offer to drill the panels without drill 
guides after screening, this one time - provided we don't have 
hundreds of panels on that screen! In the future, it may be 
economically feasible to make a new screen with drill guides, but not 
this time, since it costs around $80 to burn and mount a new screen.

RE the Expressionist: just mounting the MIDI jacks on the front panel 
doesn't allow you to close up the back of the unit. You still have to 
hook up 8 CV and 8 Gate cables from the Expressionist unit's output 
jacks. There is no space for those on the front panel, nor would you 
want them there. A breakout panel typically brings all connections in 
from the remote unit from behind the panel, and presents the 
connections on the front panel. That is what I have done. My panel 
terminates inside the cabinet to a heavy duty multipin connector, 
which mates to another connector with 2 8 conductor snakes mounted, 
plus the sync connections. The connector mounts to the back of the 
cabinet, the snake plugs in and runs to a remote rack where the 
Expressionist sits.

You could easily bring the MIDI connections to the front panel with 
the others, I'm just pointing out that you'll have either a back 
panel multiconnector, or cords dangling out the back.

Since this DIY module has several possibilities, I'll probably put up 
a web page talking about it. There are at least 3 ways you could 
build it electrically - Full output buffers and LEDs as I have done, 
no output buffers, just transistor drivers for the LEDs, or totally 
passive, leaving off the LEDs and wiring cables directly to the jacks.

Moe

Unless your expressionist is mounted in the cabinet with your modules 
like mine is:) -Nate

> 
> You could easily bring the MIDI connections to the front panel with 
> the others, I'm just pointing out that you'll have either a back 
> panel multiconnector, or cords dangling out the back.

> Moe

Ah so, grasshopper!

Moe

--- In motm@egroups.com, "Nathan Hunsicker" <nate@e...> wrote:
> Unless your expressionist is mounted in the cabinet with your 
modules 
> like mine is:) -Nate
> > 
> > You could easily bring the MIDI connections to the front panel 
with 

> > the others, I'm just pointing out that you'll have either a back 
> > panel multiconnector, or cords dangling out the back.
> 
> > Moe

In a message dated 10/11/2000 11:39:31 AM, daveb@... writes:

>Screening? We don' need no steenkin screening! I'm just putting the 
>panels on the floor, and dribbling paint from a couple of feet up. 
>Very freeform artistic interpretations.
>

Never mind the Pollacks here's the silkscreens, eh?


>> I also want to order a couple of the Miniwave panels, but will feel 
>like a 
>> real Stooge if the modules never become available again.
>> 
>
>Starting to look like Blacet will be offering the MiniWave soon. 
>Check out the News page of his website for a preliminary announcement.


Actually, this was a setup for JB to make a preliminary announcement to the 
list before the diy panel "due date" arrives next week. I gather he's not 
ready at this time to say one way or the other. BTW, I also noted that JB is 
looking at release "MOTM type" kits with no front panel and the like -- this 
is another good development for us MOTM enthusiasts.


The other JB!

You are talking to the wrong guy.  I am the "collect/orders/ handle the
money, pay Paul and save Dave Bradley the headache guy."  Dave Bradley does
all the panel design and all the work with the printer.

The reason that there is not much difference is because:
1 - Dave ate the cost of the first screen.
2 - The second (new screen) is begin spread among a LOT more people.

Larry H


----- Original Message -----
From: Nathan Hunsicker <nate@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 11:18 AM
Subject: [motm] Re: New MOTM style silkscreens !!!!


Since the price between the screens already made up and the screens
yet
to be made is minimal, do you think there is a chance that the
drilling
guides could be added to the 3 panels currently missing guides? Also,
does anyone else want to see front mounted midi jacks on the
expressionist breakout panel? I'm looking to enclose the back of my
rack and have all connections accessable from the front. Maybe
something similar to this:

http://www.etanstudios.com/breakout.gif

Maybe I'm the only one, but I'd rather keep the din sync a din jack
and
break it out to 1/4 inch jacks on a cable rather than on the panel.

PS: this is not meant to step on anyones toes, I just wanted to see
if
anyone else would be interested in this format. -Nate


--- In motm@egroups.com, "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@i...> wrote:
> As many of you already know, MOTM style panels are being produced
for some
> popular modules by other manufacturers and for some D.I.Y. stuff.
Everyone
> please express thanks to Dave Bradley (also known as Moe Stooge)
for his
> hard work and persistence to make this happen.  My role in this
endeavor is
> to collect orders and money to assist Dave so he does not have to
do all the
> work.  But, Dave is the guy behind the deal.  He is the greatest of
all
> stooges.  He deserves all the credit.
> Here's the deal:
>
> These panels will be made from regular MOTM blank panels purchased
from
> Paul.   So, Paul makes some cash and you get official MOTM metal
and paint.
> Dave's very thoughtful panel designs will be screened onto the
blank MOTM
> panels and made available to anyone who wants them.   Neither Dave
nor I
> have any agenda and neither will make a penny from this.  We are
both very
> fond of Paul's MOTM format and want our "other" modular gear to
feel at home
> by sharing the same MOTM format.  So, we are making these available
as a
> service to other MOTMers.
>
> Here is what is available:
>
> - Blacet Dark Star
> - Blacet Time Machine
> - Oakley 3 x 1 mixer (a 1U minimal implementation)
> - DIY  831  3-IN, 3-OUT voltage shifter (my protoboard design)
> - DIY  822  2-IN, 2-OUT voltage shifter (my protoboard design)
> - Expressionist break out panel (Dave Bradley's brainchild)
> - Wiard MiniWave (yes, I 've heard it is no longer available.
However, some
> of you own the ones that were sold AND John Blacet has hinted he
will try to
> license the design from Grant).  John??....  Grant??.....  I will
buy one!
> hint, hint.  Please..... :)
>
> These panel screens are available for viewing at:
>  http://www.users.uswest.net/~daveb2
>
> V-shift 822 and 831 DIY module documentation is available at:
> http://www.modglin.com/larry
>
> Please note that some of these panels do not have the cross hair
drilling
> guides.  The 822, 831, Time Machine and MiniWave DO.  The Dark
Star, Oakley
> Mixer, and Expressionist do NOT.  Also note that these panels DO
NOT have
> holes.  You have to drill them (they do have the 4 corner holes).
I have
> agreed to drill some holes for a couple of you. So, don't freak.
But, I do
> NOT want to get in that business unless you are truely needy or
totally
> mechanically declined.
>
> If you want any of these panels, I need to hear from you privately
NOW.   We
> plan to order and print all the panels at one time, saving YOU
money and
> Dave many trips to the printer.  These may be available later, but
the price
> will be MUCH higher if you do do benefit from the savings of
ordering
> several at once.  I am planning to take panel requests for 7 days.
If you
> have already told me that you want 822 or 831 panels, I do not need
to hear
> from you again.  I have saved all of your requests.
>
> At the end of this week,  I will send out a confirmation note and a
request
> for your payment.   I need your money before we have the printing
done.
> Sorry to ask for the money up front.  But, we are only printing the
exact
> number of panels requested.  So, neither Dave or I am interested in
getting
> stuck with any leftovers.
>
> If you have questions about panel layouts or features, e-mail me
about the
> 831, 822.  Ask Dave about the others.  I can answer Oakley mixer
panel
> questions too.
>
> How much does all this cost, you ask ??   A lot of thought went
into how
> best to recover the cost of this project so that each person paid
as close
> to possible to their "weighted" share.  All I can say is, you have
to trust
> that we are being fair and if it seems to high, no one is twisting
your arm.
> Remember that you are getting REAL MOTM blanks.  So, Paul is making
some
> cash for more MOTM R&D.  That should be incentive enough.
>
> Here are the PER PANEL prices.  These include the blank panel, and
the
> screen printing.  Shipping is separate (see below):
>
> Dark Star ------  $ 22
> Expressionist ---  $ 22
> Oakley Mix ----- $ 15
> 822 V-shift ----- $ 16
> 831 V-shift ----- $ 16
> Mini Wave ----- $ 23
> Time Machine -- $ 23
>
> Note that blank prices are $11 and $18 plus shipping (1U and 2U
> respectively).
>
> USA shipping will be $4 per order, NOT per panel.  You UK guys will
get a
> private note concerning shipping cost when I send your confirmation.
>
> The panels I have agreed to drill (you know who you are) need to
pay and
> extra $4 per order, NOT per panel since you will be paying for one
extra leg
> of shipping.
>
> Send no money now.  Just send me your panel request PRIVATELY.  In
7 days, I
> will send you a confirmation with your total due.  Depending on the
number
> ordered and my final shipping price from Paul the price could
fluxuate a
> little (up or down).  And again, if you have already told me you
want 831
> and 822 panels, you need not reply unless you want to ADD other
panels.
>
> Will other panels be available in the future?  Maybe, depending on
interest.
> When you send me your panel request, feel free to list any panels
you would
> like to see in the future.  Those of most notable response will
probably be

> next (if this all goes well and Moe Stooge is willing).
>
> NOW, e-mail me and tell me what you want.
>
> Thanks,
> Stooge # 2 Larry

Regarding the MiniWave and the MOTM style panel for same, I would
suggest holding off on this design as the PCB and the method of mounting
the LEDs will most certainly change!

(No, I don't know anything else at this point...)

Regards.
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--- In motm@egroups.com, John E Blacet <blacet@m...> wrote:
> Regarding the MiniWave and the MOTM style panel for same, I would
> suggest holding off on this design as the PCB and the method of 
mounting
> the LEDs will most certainly change!
> 
> (No, I don't know anything else at this point...)

OK, then the cautious thing to do would be this: if you ALREADY own a 
MiniWave from Wiard, then the current panel design will be fine and 
you can order one with confidence.

If you don't currently own one but plan on purchasing one from Blacet 
when it becomes available, hold off until we see if the panel must be 
redesigned. This is certainly a module that will enjoy enough 
continued demand to make its inclusion on a later screen worthwhile.

Moe