MOTM

Aside from using Pauls Multi-Banana-1/8 adaptor module has anyone just 
used banana jacks on there MOTM panels. I need to mod a users modules 
for easier interface with his Serge panels. He has one of each MOTM 
filter and one ADSR. Anything I should know before I suggest that I 
perform this hack? And who sells the adaptors that allow banana's to 
fit in the MOTM jack holes? 

Dave

hi dave...

i've got a motm that's about to outgrow its skb case (especially when i
get the time machine in there... the pcb is too long), and i'd like to
build one of your cases. i'd like to build it myself cuz it would bring me
closer to the machine and because i'd need to mod it a bit... i plan to
install my mobius in the bottom half, which means i'd need to bring midi
and power out to a panel on the back. i may eventually build a second
case, with an analog seq instead of a mobius (may have to change
dimensions).

do you you sell the plans or just the cases? and if you just sell the
cases, would you be willing to accomodate the mods i'd need to do to get
the sequencers in there? it would probably be a few months before i do
this, so i'm just exploring the possibilities...

thanks dave!

fred.

bleep.
out.

> i've got a motm that's about to outgrow its skb case (especially when i

heh... whoops! that was supposed to go to dave fulton, not the list. argh.
these computer things are so new-fangled and confusing:)

bleep.
out.

Didn't  J.W. Barlow (the quiet Stooge) do this before he regained his sanity
and went back to 1/4"?
Larry H

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Fulton <dfulton@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 4:10 PM
Subject: [motm] This is an old one...


Aside from using Pauls Multi-Banana-1/8 adaptor module has anyone just
used banana jacks on there MOTM panels. I need to mod a users modules
for easier interface with his Serge panels. He has one of each MOTM
filter and one ADSR. Anything I should know before I suggest that I
perform this hack? And who sells the adaptors that allow banana's to
fit in the MOTM jack holes?

Dave

In a message dated 1/19/2001 6:05:31 PM, jlarryh@... writes:

>Didn't  J.W. Barlow (the quiet Stooge) do this before he regained his sanity
>and went back to 1/4"?
>Larry H

The quiet Stooge???? Damn! I always thought I was the cute Stooge, the smart 
Stooge, or at least the funny Stooge!

>----- Original Message -----
>From: Dave Fulton <dfulton@...>


> I need to mod a users modules
>for easier interface with his Serge panels. He has one of each MOTM
>filter and one ADSR. Anything I should know before I suggest that I
>perform this hack? And who sells the adaptors that allow banana's to
>fit in the MOTM jack holes?

Other than the obvious trigger mod (absolutely necessary for use with the 
Serge due to the lack of triggers) for the 800, you'll need to look at 
normalized ground connections on some inputs. I know that I was able to 
connect a 1M between the input and ground for the switch of the 700 -- 
otherwise it would hang high regardless of the setting of the voltage knob. I 
also ran into problems with the normalized CV inputs on the 410 which need to 
see ground to get a good range on the LFO which would go no slower than about 
10Hz if left floating -- I chose to leave these floating, and use patch cords 
to ground when I used the LFO. There may be a better solution to this, in 
fact this was the module that made me decide to change back to the 1/4" 
jacks. I don't remember any other problems with the filters though.

I didn't use any adapters to match the size of the bananas to the 1/4" 
mounting holes -- I merely lined up the flats on the banana jacks vertically 
so they all line up horizontally. I'm sure you can buy a Teflon shoulder 
washer from Mouser or any other big place (these types of washers were used 
in the older style Serge for mounting the LEDs). I'm sure it would be easy to 
determine which size you'd need by the ID and step size OD of the washers and 
the OD of the bananas and the ID of the 1/4" mounting holes. 

I do sometimes have a problem with bananas (generally) coming loose oc
casionally in the panels (any style panels). This might be reduced with the 
use of the shoulder washers.

The only thing I'd be concerned about with such a change is the number of 
future modules which may include normalized connections (Paul specifically 
mentioned that these would often be part of future design). If your 
"customer" intends on buying future MOTM stuff this decision might come back 
to haunt him, as it did me.

Good luck!
JB

--- In motm@egroups.com, "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@i...> wrote:
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <jwbarlow@a...>
> > The quiet Stooge???? Damn! I always thought I was the cute
> > Stooge, the smart  Stooge, or at least the funny Stooge!
> 
> OK, I'll go smart, and funny (in a warped way), but there is no way
> I am calling you cute (especially since I have seen no photo).
> 

Henceforth:

Barlow will be known as "the guitar stooge".
Hendry will be known as "the torquemeister stooge".
I will be known as "the Gimme an LED stooge".

Moe

You guys need a stooge IRC channel  : )

Dave Bradley wrote:

> --- In motm@egroups.com, "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@i...> wrote:
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <jwbarlow@a...>
> > > The quiet Stooge???? Damn! I always thought I was the cute
> > > Stooge, the smart  Stooge, or at least the funny Stooge!
> >
> > OK, I'll go smart, and funny (in a warped way), but there is no way
> > I am calling you cute (especially since I have seen no photo).
> >
>
> Henceforth:
>
> Barlow will be known as "the guitar stooge".
> Hendry will be known as "the torquemeister stooge".
> I will be known as "the Gimme an LED stooge".
>
> Moe

At 02:09 PM 1/20/01 -0600, you wrote:
>OK, OK., twist the stud out of the back of ONE motm panel and all of the
>sudden I am entered in arm wrestling contests and being called names.

If it makes you feel any better Larry, I did that too....once

-dave-

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <jwbarlow@...>
> The quiet Stooge???? Damn! I always thought I was the cute
> Stooge, the smart  Stooge, or at least the funny Stooge!

OK, I'll go smart, and funny (in a warped way), but there is no way
I am calling you cute (especially since I have seen no photo).

Stooge Larry

----- Original Message -----

From: <bigd@...>
You guys need a stooge IRC channel  : )
-----
Call me stupid (or a stooge), but what is an IRC channel?

-----
Dave Bradley wrote:
> Hendry will be known as "the torquemeister stooge".

OK, OK., twist the stud out of the back of ONE motm panel and all of the
sudden I am entered in arm wrestling contests and being called names.

Why, I ought to.........
Stooge Larry