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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: OT- NAMM 2011

2011-01-22 by lsf5275@aol.com

Bad Ass! Have you ever sat on them?
 
 
In a message dated 1/22/2011 3:22:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
tron400@yahoo.com writes:

 
 
 


I have Harley Davidson eyeglass frames. They're really  loud! Why? Are they 
Orange?

Bernie

--- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  lsf5275@... wrote:
>
> I hear Harley Davidson is going to make a  bicycle with speakers on it 
that 
> play back the sounds of the big  V-Twin when you pedal it around. It will 
> have the Harley Davidson  Logo on it and since it still sounds just like 
the 
> big bike it must  be a motorcycle.
> 
> 
> In a message dated 1/22/2011  1:44:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> hessel@... writes:
>  
> 
> 
> 
> It seems to me that, for any device  claiming to have authentic MELLOTRON 
> sounds onboard, capturing the  MELLOTRON medium (tape! ) and capturing 
the 
> characteristic replay  mechanism is very important and indeed what many 
> buyers would expect  to hear from this device
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Op 22 jan. 2011 om 18:18 heeft "Charles" <_charel196@..._  
> (mailto:charel196@...) > het volgende geschreven:
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> not a valid comparison...a guitar  relies on the wood and strings for 
> sound. The Mellotron doesn't rely  on it's cabinet. Does the plexiglass 
tron 
> sound different from the  wooden ones?
> The M4000D is a DIGITAL MELLOTRON....not a tape playback  Mellotron...but 
> is entitled to the name nonetheless IMO since it is  an offspring of the 
line 
> of instruments. As far as tuning &  denoising etc. ruining or changing 
the 
> sound....aren't these the very  things people have bitched about for 
> decades. Now someone fixes them  and you bitch about that! (shakes 
head....walking 
>  away....smiling)
> Markus could offer non tuned/non-denoised versions of  the sounds as an 
> option.And if you can detect the missing bits of  analog tape sound in 
the 
> digital version you must have super  hearing.
> Yeah...the Classic Keys sounds aren't good. The E4K/Pinder CD  sounds as 
> accurate as I need. I even have samples from my old 400 in  it (hissy & 
out of 
> tune) every note sampled full length, non  looped.
> 
> --- In __newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) _  
> (mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) )  , lsf5275@ wrote:
> >
> > Charles,
> > 
>  > Suppose you make a wooden thing with a neck and buttons on it instead 
of  
> > strings. All of the sounds are digitized and you press buttons  to get 
> the 
> > sounds. Is it a Guitar? It looks like a  guitar, but is it a guitar? 
No. 
> A 
> > Mellotron or  Chamberlin were TAPE playback machines. Just because you 
> make  
> > something that kinda looks like one and plays digital  representations 
of 
> the 
> > original tape samples doesn't  make them one.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
>  > In a message dated 1/22/2011 8:48:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>  > charel196@ writes:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > I just don't get all this "it's not a Mellotron" talk....the  digital 
> unit 
> > is a logical progression from tape replay  and Ill bet Harry Chamberlin 
> would 
> > have moved into this  area if he were alive now. The whole point was 
> > playing  instrument sounds on a keyboard, not the tape technology 
(which 
> was  the 
> > only method available) 
> > If all sounds are from  original tapes and only last 8 seconds and are 
> the 
> > best  digital representations that can be done, personally to me it's a 
> new  
> > Mellotron.It's the offspring of the tape machine. So what that  it 
> doesn't 
> > use Chamberlin heads etc. With EQ'ing and  processing I imagine you can 
> get 
> > near 1000%  close.
> > Heck I have used samples on my albums (from my EMU E4K,  EMAX 1, and 
> > CLASSIC KEYS) sometimes on the same songs I used my  real M400 (when I 
> had it) and 
> > I defy anyone to tell me  which is which. And the E4K was using the 
> Pinder 
> > CD.  The M4000D samples are said to be way beyond the Pinder CD in 
>  quality. 
> > I think it's totally anal to hang on to tape playback  technology as 
the 
> > only thing that can be called "Mellotron" or  "Chamberlin". The 4000D 
is 
> just a 
> > new and different  model in the family tree....made by the people who 
own 
> > the name  and masters.
> >
>





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