The Mellotron Group

Tony, 525 belongs to John Hammaren. I just restored it for him. You meant  
John. 
 
By the way, I know we're right at the limit of the number of Franks allowed 
 in the group. Clay, how are we doing on Johns? Hammaren should be bringing 
us  close to the acceptable limit, right?
 
 
In a message dated 2/26/2011 9:58:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
atm655@verizon.net writes:

 
 
 
  
Yes Frank I noticed that  too!
Same batch I reckon, there was another  very close to mine for sale awhile 
ago and he's a member now too.
Hope he pops up and says  hey!
We're one big family anyway and as  mentioned, sometimes at friendly odds, 
so pull the belts tight it can be a  wild ride, lol.
All good fun!
Tony

----- Original Message ----- 
From: _John Hammaren_ (mailto:hammaren@geoconcepts.com)  
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 8:13  AM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re:  samples and copyright



 
Gee Tony,  you’re #510, me #525. Gosh, we’re almost family! Mr. Neel and 
yours probably  spoke to each other back in ’71 before they left for a life 
of abuse and  foster families. 
 
 
From: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of  Tony
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 8:09 AM
To:  _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
Subject:  Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: samples and  copyright

 
 
 
  
 
John  welcome!
 
You're going to fit  right in!
 

 
Best,
 
Tony  #510
 


 
----- Original Message  ----- 
 
From: _John Hammaren_ (mailto:hammaren@geoconcepts.com)   
 
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   
 
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 6:59  AM
 
Subject:  RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: samples and copyright
 

 
 
I do  violate every rule of the programmer, both coding wise (screw elegant 
code  – how about we make the thing work), and writing (I dated an English  
instructor in college and I was beaten into submission!). I will attempt  
to throw a misspelling in here and there, and who knows – maybe even some  
bad grammar. J Just give me a  chance. 
John 
 
 
From: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of  
lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 12:54  AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] Re: samples and  copyright

 
 
 
 
John,
 
Your posts  here need not be brief, but they should be filled with 
misspellings and  poor syntax. Then you'll fit right in. . As for spam, I  get none 
from this group. It may be because Clay loves Spam and keeps it  all for 
himself.
 
 
In a  message dated 2/25/2011 8:47:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
hammaren@geoconcepts.com writes:

 
 
Thanks  Frank, 
Yes, it  is my first post. I hope to get pics up from your spectacular  
restoration (resurrection is a more apt term, I think) of Mr. Neel as  soon as 
I can. 
Thanks  again, and I know this is the right group, since the spam is 
greatly  outnumbered by the relevant posts. I hope to not be so verbose in the  
future. This is a common thing over at the Dotcom group, so it kind of  rubs 
off. 
Greeting to  all. 
John 
 
 
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com  
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of  lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 6:22  PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject:  Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: samples and  copyright

 
 
 
 
Welcome  to the group John! Is this your first post here?
 
John is  the owner of the "Johnny Neel" Mellotron, #525
 
Frank
 
 
In a  message dated 2/25/2011 4:30:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
hammaren@geoconcepts.com writes:

 
 
Well,  as a programmer, that’s not entirely true. Whatever agreement was  
signed whether that person was an employee or outside consultant would  
dictate what remuneration was received. If the agreement stipulated  that the 
employee or consultant received a royalty in whatever fashion  was agreed, then 
that would be it. But, on the other hand the  agreement would be between 
those two entities, not the end-user or  consumer. In that case, whatever 
agreement or license agreement that  was agreed to upon sale of such product 
would be in force between end  user and manufacturer of product. I have not 
looked at whatever  legalese came with my Triton for example, but since I have 
not read  about any brouhahas regarding this, it is probably safe to assume 
that  end users are granted a general use license for whatever purpose  
including performance. That’s not to say the programmer may not get a  cut of 
total unit sales. What probably would not be included would be  redistribution 
of said programs for the purpose of the end-user  profiting from that work. 
Pretty much the same as if you cloned a  Triton and sold it as a 
TritonGrande’ with all the sounds intact. But  there is nothing to say he couldn’t 
profit from performances of his  work if the end-user agreement stipulated it. 
Kind of hard to enforce  this, but the way things are getting in this 
world, don’t count this  out some day. Particularly since we are at the point 
where every, and  I mean every device and person will have an IPV6 address in 
20 or 30  years and whatever it is we will do will have some form of tracking 
 associated with it. Look at Microsoft. Software as a service is a  prime 
example – compose a doc and pay them a royalty. That’s their  future. 
It  ain;t mine. 
Cheers, 
John 
 
 
From:  newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com  
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of  fdoddy@aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 2:44  PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject:  Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: samples and  copyright

 
 
 
He probably signed a  "work for hire" agreement, and besides, it is not a 
performance, but  instead,programming.  In the US, there is no performance 
royalty  on programming, that would make no  sense.


fd





-----Original  Message-----
From: mattias <Mattias.olsson5@comhem.se>
To:  newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 12:46 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re:  samples and copyright 
 
 
 
 
 
How  about the guy who programmed  the synthbrass sound  on the  DX7 ?

Should he get paid or sued everytime the sound is heard  on the radio ?

// Mattias


Den 2011-02-25 17.56,  skrev "Mike Dickson" <_mike.dickson@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:mike.dickson@gmail.com) >:






On  25/02/2011 13:01, feline1973 wrote:  



Nobody  knows the name of the people on the tapes and so PPL don't have 
this  info so they ain't getting paid at  present.



Well..we know some  of them. Trouble is I suspect most of them are  dead.