The Mellotron Group

Agreed
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/20/2011 12:56:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
barrickjohn262@gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
This is getting silly.  Look, there's a big difference between the  
playback on a tron or chamby and the final, locked in sound of a finished  
recording that's been put together by the artist and/or producer.  
If you were a guitarist, would you want a guitar that played the same  note 
the same way, every time, no matter how differently you plucked and  
fretted the string?  Well, maybe if you were in Kraftwerk...
A guitar is actually a bad example, but the a whole part of the sound is  
the variance that occurs on playback of a note due to the electro-mechanical  
process.

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:24 AM, feline1973 <_feline1@feline1.co.uk_ 
(mailto:feline1@feline1.co.uk) >  wrote:


 
 
 
Yeah, 
and I bet you never buy records or CDs, 
cos they sound the  same every time you play them -
it's kinda lacking in soul compared to  going to a gig. 


--- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , lsf5275@...  wrote:
>
> You can take the M4000D and manipulate it to be  idiosyncratic in certain 
> ways. But those idiosyncrasies will be the  same to every sound. The 
> character of a Mellotron is derived from  how it plays its tapes, 
variances from 
> frame to frame, tape age,  keyboard adjustment, etc. It makes each one 
unique. 
> Every M4000D  will be exactly like every other one. Not a bad thing 
really, 
> but a  little soulless. When I think of a Mellotron, I think of a tape 
>  replay machine. The Mellotron sounds that come out of an iPad are no  
different 
> except the way they are accessed. The sampling rate may  be different but 
the 
> concept is the same.The iPad delivers the  sounds but imparts no 
character 
> to them.
> 
> 
>  In a message dated 7/19/2011 8:37:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 

> tron400@... writes:
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Looks like my last reply didn't make it.
> 
> The last  frame I bought has tuned Cello/M400 Violins/Flute. Sure, the 
>  Violins are MkII Violins EQ'd for the M400, but the EQ, as well as the  
tuning, 
> was done by Streetly, so there's a degree of authenticity  there (like 
100%).
> 
> I'd love to play around with an M4000D  for a few days. It seems to be a 
> practical machine for those who  don't want to own a tape replay machine 
and a 
> good supplement to an  M400. But I don't think electronics can ever 
> accurately imitate the  electromechanical idiosyncracies of a Mellotron.
> 
>  Bernie
> 

> --- In __newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) _ 
> (mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ) , "Charles"  <charel196@> wrote:
> >
> > so if you bought a new  tape rack and played an E Major chord and the 
> fifth was recorded  out of tune, you'd prefer that over buying a digital 
unit 
> with all  the notes properly tuned and de-noised?
> > Even your Mellotron  library was recorded and EQ'd with someone else's 
> idea of how it  should sound.
> > I just don't get it, I guess.
> >  
> > 

> > --- In __newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) _ 
> (mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ) , "tron400"  <tron400@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> >  > 
> > > It's one thing to alter the sound of your Mellotron  or samples, but 
> it's another thing to have someone else decide for  you how it should 
> fundamentally sound.
> > > 
>  > > Bernie
> > > 

> > > --- In __newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) _ 
> (mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ) , "Charles"  <charel196@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > > do you think Mike Pinder never did any "tampering"  to make his 
units 
> sound "better"? Geeezus....to me the M4000D is  the outgrowth of all the 
> years of addressing the complaints about  exactly what was wrong with the 
tape 
> system by all the major  artists (tuning, noise, etc.)
> > > > Do you think if Harry  Chamberlin had this technology at his 
disposal 
> he would have used  tapes?
> > > > It may not be a "real Mellotron/Chamberlin" in  the eyes of the 
> hardcore obsessives but for me it's a completely  normal development in 
the 
> lineage and deserves the name.
>  > > >
> > >
> >
>












-- 
john barrick


*Leo got it right the first time*
*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*