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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Peter Gabriel - So what?

2012-05-29 by Hammonddave

The problem is that "supporting our country" can be defined in different ways by different people.  When Ted Nugent calls our president a socialist and says that he is a traitor, some people find that kind of unpatriotic rabble  as "supporting our country".  

I may not agree with it, but like the artists who criticized the US for invading Iraq under false pretenses (proven, by the way), I support their rights to say it.  If I was at the Ted Nugent concert I may have been insulted, and left. But I would not try to take away his right to say it. He has that right as an American, and I respect that he makes his music as a political statement.

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On May 28, 2012, at 10:01 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

> Because that is what you come to the forum for….if you don’t understand that ……..
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> anyone supporting the US then I really don’t give a shit about your views either…..
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> but in this country you have the right to state those views.  Maybe in your country you don’t??
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> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Curtis
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> Dave's right.  If you don't like the opinion then who really gives a shit?  It's his show, his art, and his choice of what he's going to communicate.  I would venture a guess that Peter Gabriel is not going to be saddened that you're not buying his new record.
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> If I go so see some hillbilly show in Texas I can be assured that I'm going to hear some "Rah Rah USA" crap that will offend the hell out of me.  I probably wouldn't go.  
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> If you've heard PG's music then you can probably have a good idea where he lies in the political spectrum.
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> And to be honest, how is PG sharing his political opinions during a concert of his music any less appropriate than someone sharing their opinions on a forum dedicated to a musical instrument?
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> On May 28, 2012, at 11:41 PM, Gary Brumm wrote:
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> Come on Dave, really??  I am the first person to agree with you on Freedom of Speech whether I agree with the topic or not…..
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> HOWEVER I PAID to hear MUSIC and not a political speech.  Everyone was cheering including me until he started blubbering
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> on about how awful the US was (off whom he made his most of his fortune) at which time he got booed until the music started. 
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> This was not only in bad taste (not long after 911) but disrespectful to his paying audience.  I never said he didn’t have the right.  In this
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> country he certainly does….in some others he would have been beheaded.  I now will exercise my right to spend my money on
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> other entertainers who better appreciate their audience.  I will still listen to his music (I already paid for) but will no longer buy it. 
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> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hammonddave
> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 9:11 PM
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> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Peter Gabriel - So what?
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> And finally...  It's called "Freedom of Speech". Something our fellow countrymen fought and died for. Kind of appropriate for Memorial Day.
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> On May 28, 2012, at 8:49 PM, Tom Doncourt <tomdcour@amnh.org> wrote:
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> I think there is a difference between writing songs like "Blowing in the Wind" and "Biko" and using your celebrity status to broadcast your political views. Even if I agree with those views it still seems inappropriate. 
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