The Mellotron Group group photo

Yahoo Groups archive

The Mellotron Group

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 23:38 UTC

Message

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Genesis Live 1973

2012-11-19 by lsf5275@aol.com

More likely the organ, Tony, They had long since ditched the Mark II by the 
 time they were touring TLLDOB.
 
Frank (too much shit to list)
 
 
In a message dated 11/19/2012 9:49:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
atm655@verizon.net writes:

 
 
 
 
 
I saw “The Lamb” one month before Gabriel left in  December 74, Auditorium 
Theatre Chicago, a 12,000 seat  Venue.
Never having heard of them, I went with my friends  on a whim and enjoyed 
them.
Knew about the Mellotron having already become a  Tangerine Dream fan, 
recognized an M400 along with a large, organ like  keyboard in white, a Mark II, 
I later found out. At 19 they sure had my full  attention, and I found the 
theatrics unusual but amusing just the  same.
 
Tony #510
 
 

 
From: _lsf5275@aol.com_ (mailto:lsf5275@aol.com)  
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:37 AM
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Genesis Live  1973


 

    
 
I remember seeing Genesis at the Tower theater in Philadelphia back in  
1973. no Mark II but an M400. Mike might think the whole thing is silly, but  
for a 21 year old I was pretty impressionable. I LOVED IT! The first live  
concert I ever saw was outdoors on the Mall in DC. I don't think I was yet 16. 
 It was Alice Cooper opening for Arthur Brown. Spring or summer of 1968. I  
didn't turn 16 until that November.
 
Alice Cooper came out in a pink dress. The band was called "Alice Cooper"  
at the time. I don't think Vince Furnier had adopted the name for himself 
yet.  I was about 50 feet from the stage and I remember the guitarist (I 
think) at  some point in the show had a giant Styrofoam fist that he slid up and 
down  Vince's body (in the pink dress) until he spit some kind of white 
creamy fluid  all over the people in front of the stage.
 
I freaked out. It was great stuff.
 
Then, after Alice Cooper left the stage, the back line guys swapped out  
the gear and the stage went dark... for about ten minutes. Suddenly there was  
a rumble after a few seconds, a voice in the dark screamed out..." I AM THE 
 GOD OF HELL FIRE... AND I BRING YOU... FIRE. There was an explosion of 
light  and this guy comes down down on a wire (Deus Ex Machina- only at the 
beginning  instead of the end) with one arm extended outwards and the other 
holding a mic  and HIS HEAD WAS ON FIRE. Well, at least that what I thought at 
first, but it  was actually a helmet of some kind. I remember little else of 
that show, but  that much, I will never forget.
 
I saw lots of concerts after that but nothing that approached the wonder  
and surprise until 1973 at the Tower. I saw Gabriel era Genesis twice more  
after that also in Philadelphia and was fortunate enough to be 4th row center 
 at the Civic Center for The Lamb show.
 
Looking back at now, at the age of 60  I still get a sense of what  I felt 
back then. And over the years, having seen The Musical Box recreate  these 
shows, as good at it as they are (were) Nothing can touch the memories  of 
those shows when I was that age.
 
So make fun of it if you will, Mike... I pity you for having missed it.  
Real people playing real instruments.
 
 
In a message dated 11/19/2012 1:30:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
pocotron@yahoo.com writes:

 
 
Hi all-
   In listening to the "Watcher" intro, one can hear  the brass/violins 
mix, but the brass sounds a bit like the "Brass B"  recording to me.  Later on, 
in "Dancing with the Moonlight Knight", the  violins are alone.  A choir 
can also be heard by itself elswhere (I  forget where) in the concert.  I have 
to assume the frame was loaded  with Brass B, 3 Violins (probably M400 
Violins) and 8 Choir.
 
   -Bruce D.
   
 
 
 
 

From: gino wong  <wonggster@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com  
Sent: Sunday, November 18,  2012 3:55 PM
Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] Genesis Live 1973

<WBR>
 
 
 
So they doubled the organ with the 400 strings ?    
I guess they had to do something when they went from many to three  
sounds.I guess
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 4:26 PM, <_lsf5275@aol.com_ 
(mailto:lsf5275@aol.com) > wrote: wrote:
   
 
 
 

They began using the organ instead of  the bass accordion .
 

 
In a message dated 11/18/2012 2:34:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_wonggster@gmail.com_ (mailto:wonggster@gmail.com)  writes:

I think they were using an M 400 in the studio by the time of  Selling 
England....  I do wonder how they accounted for the  difference in sound between 
the Mk2 strings and the bass accordion for  Watcher which was a big part of 
their show for a long time. Did they  have special tapes or did they just 
roll with what was around. 
 
Surely somebody  knows.











<WBR>
 
--  


Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm,  BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio  Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics<WBR> 
 
_Ginowong@gmail.com_ (mailto:Ginowong@gmail.com)

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.