The Mellotron Group

What up, 
You have to have the experience of using the actual tron and it's variables.  I have no need for foul ass attitudes like that.  I have a great collection of keys which I have obtained for the past 30 years and use them all for session work and live use.  If you think you're cool enough and innovative like Kraftwerk or Devo then modernize your gear and be cool about it and not sour.
My two cents. 


On Monday, June 30, 2014 11:41 AM, "Jason Wielispach capnreverb@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup]" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
  


  
I agree with one part the guy said, for me lugging around a mellotron to a bar gig to play for 30 people seems like a bit much. I'd be fine with an plug in/whatnot. However, as someone else mentioned, nothing beats  the feel of a real Tron, just like the feel of a real piano. It's not like a synth/generic keyboard etc in terms of play. Also, my Tron has a warble and out of tuneness that can't be emaluted, for better or worse. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2014, at 11:28 AM, "Martin tronbros@aol.com [newmellotrongroup]" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


  
>Steinways, Bluthners, Dale Forty, Bechsteins all still sell in droves despite great emulations in boxes or software. That tells you something. It's down to the 'experience' and not just how accurate or not the sound is. That's why we have a full order book for the real deal despite being involved in the digital world.
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>Mellotronics.com on my iPad
>Celebrating 50 years of mellotrons
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>On 30 Jun 2014, at 16:46, "lsf5275@aol.com [newmellotrongroup]" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>What I can't understand is why the sour grapes. If you have an 
opinion, cool , but to behave like that smacks of something more. If you want to 
leave, that's ok too...He's like the digital V.G.
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>>In a message dated 6/30/2014 11:41:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com writes: 
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>>>Mellotroll. 
>>>On Jun 30, 2014 10:17 AM, "DiPaolo Richard kathnrich@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup]"  <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>  wrote:
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>>>>    After having been part of this group. And now  leaving, Just saying having a real mellotron is stupid and not worth the  money. You will enjoy it for 10 minutes. People selling for them for $4000,  stripped, not original, no tapes, how absurd. 
>>>>And  then crying how it really is worth $4000. What a laugh.
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>>>>       Get a 4000D from Markus and call it a day. Get a 4000 mini from Markus  (Mellotron)and call it a day. Get these new emulators and call it a day.  They are just as good if not better. Carrying around a a real Mellotron to  play out now-o-days is as good as carrying around a Hammond B3 and is just  as asinine. Why not just carry around a grand or even better a baby grand to  play out with. No benefit in the studio either. NONE.
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>>>>Rich D.
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>>>>________________________________
>>>> From: Kinchmusic <kinchmusic@aol.com>
>>>>To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> 
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:42  PM
>>>>Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] (unknown)
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>>>>I have to say that the m3000 app is ridiculously cheap IMO. The quality  of the playback is amazing. All I would add is that the m4000d and Memotron  etc are very good at reproducing the sounds of the master tapes. Fine but to  me, the Mellotron sound is as much about the machine itself. IE. the type of  Pre-amp and yes, the wow and flutter generated within the instrument. Even  it being out of tune. I'm as guilty as anyone here wanting to sanitise the  tuning to bring it into what's deemed as acceptable for today's recordings,  something that wasn't an option way back when. They just got on with it,  warts and all, maybe we should as well. 
>>>> Andy K
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>>>>Sent from my iPad 
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>>>>On 26 Mar 2014, at 16:06, gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>The Mirage analogy was apocryphal.  When all is said and  done you have, tape and a duplicate in the form of a sample, sample on a  ROM or an analog copy. Beyound that is how it is handled.  The  numeric designation via the marketing suggests that they are the same  thing.  All quibbling aside, they are not. It matters a lot at the  detail level.  
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>>>>>On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:24 AM, DiPaolo Richard <kathnrich@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>      What ever you are happy with Gino and can afford. By far the Ensoniq  Mirage is/was an extremely low memory unit. The loops were very short,  16 bit, harsh, loaded from floppies, but powerful for it's day, late  80's?? The Mellotron 4000D is fully recorded sounds at 24 bit, 100  sounds. 
>>>>>>      The 4000D is also 
        part of the experience, the look, the feel, the sound, of we who had 
        once owned full blown Mellotrons and do NOT want carry all that hardware 
        and 3 sounds?! In fact, the recorded and not sampled/looped, (I don't 
        care, call them sampled if it makes anyone feel better), sounds are spot 
        on, having owned an M400, recorded my M400 in well known studios....The 
        sound of M4000D is exact, and , may not be for everyone.
>>>>>>      Mellotronics makes a supierior 
        unit to the once M400, far superior! The sounds I heard from it are 
        today's technology with very many and authentic/awesome sounds! It Just 
        did not fit my life style and needs, or wallet.
>>>>>>P.S. I do 
        not plan to carry my M4000D through the TSA. But correct, my Ipad does 
        go right through.
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rich D.
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>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>> From: gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com>
>>>>>>To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:02 AM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup]  (unknown)
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>>>>>>An IPad with the 3000 app would have been an even better value, or  an Ensoniq Mirage.  I am not being flippant here.  
>>>>>>The man hours on sound development on both far exceed that of the  M4000D both conveniently sized and the TSA have seen and noted them  (they have an unofficial book for folk with IQs over 75).
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>>>>>>On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:43 AM, DiPaolo Richard <kathnrich@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>Correct  Martin. 
>>>>>>>     Your 4000 is way out 
          of my price range. Sorry, way Too heavy for my needs, took way too 
          long to make for my needs, and that was also three weeks ago.
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rich D.
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Martin <tronbros@aol.com>
>>>>>>>To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com"  <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> 
>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:30 AM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup]  (unknown)
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>>>>>>>I won't be collecting you from the station then Rich? 
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>>>>>>>Mellotronics.com on my iPad 
>>>>>>>2013 is the 50th anniversary of the Mellotron 
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>>>>>>>On 26 Mar 2014, at 13:20, DiPaolo Richard <kathnrich@yahoo.com>  wrote:
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>>>>>>>>Hi 
>>>>>>>>        Just purchased an M4000D. The flight case is too heavy for everyday  use. Anyone know of a soft, lightweight case available? I will be  keeping the flight case for long haul use. 
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>>>>>>>>Thank you 
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>>>>>>>>Rich D.  
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>>>>>>-- 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>>Gino Wong Birgelo 
>>>>>>BSComm,  BSEE, 
>>>>>>ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design 
>>>>>>Audio  Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>>Ginowong@gmail.com 
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>>>>>-- 
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>>>>> 
>>>>>Gino Wong Birgelo 
>>>>>BSComm,  BSEE, 
>>>>>ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design 
>>>>>Audio  Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics
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>>>>> 
>>>>>Ginowong@gmail.com 
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