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2013-06-08 by Mark Pring
2013-06-08 by tronbros
No idea. Send me a recording and we'll take a listen.....and still have no idea. Arthur Crap 1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons mellotronics.com on my iPad
On 8 Jun 2013, at 02:17, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: > What causes that sound my tron makes from time to time? A short clicking sound. When reverbed it sounds like a small explosion, it seems to occur at random. I know it's not just my tron as I've heard it at the end of one of Woolly's recordings from the BBC. > > Mark >
2013-06-08 by Bruce Daily
Arthurized !! -Bruce D. ________________________________ From: tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:28 AM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious No idea. Send me a recording and we'll take a listen.....and still have no idea. Arthur Crap 1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons mellotronics.com on my iPad
On 8 Jun 2013, at 02:17, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: >What causes that sound my tron makes from time to time? A short clicking sound. When reverbed it sounds like a small explosion, it seems to occur at random. I know it's not just my tron as I've heard it at the end of one of Woolly's recordings from the BBC. > > >Mark
2013-06-08 by gino wong
From: tronbros <tronbros@aol.com>
To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious
No idea. Send me a recording and we'll take a listen.....and still have no idea.On 8 Jun 2013, at 02:17, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote:What causes that sound my tron makes from time to time? A short clicking sound. When reverbed it sounds like a small explosion, it seems to occur at random. I know it's not just my tron as I've heard it at the end of one of Woolly's recordings from the BBC.Mark
2013-06-09 by Mike Dickson
You dont mean a spring boom do you ? Anything with a reverb spring at volume can sound a lot like an explosion if shaken, kicked or otherwise disturbed.
--From: tronbros <tronbros@aol.com>
To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious
No idea. Send me a recording and we'll take a listen.....and still have no idea.On 8 Jun 2013, at 02:17, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote:What causes that sound my tron makes from time to time? A short clicking sound. When reverbed it sounds like a small explosion, it seems to occur at random. I know it's not just my tron as I've heard it at the end of one of Woolly's recordings from the BBC.MarkGino Wong BirgeloBSComm, BSEE,ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
2013-06-09 by Mark Pring
What's a tape zip? I think it's probably electrical, seems to be in the signal out rather than an acoustic sound. Doesn't matter if I'm playing or not, just has to be turned on. Cannons in pomp and circumstance, now there's a thought. Mark ________________________________
From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 9 June 2013 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious Banging on the Mk V spring reverb is how I made the cannon sounds in 'Pomp and Circumstance'. :-) Could it be tape zip? Sounds more likely. On 8 June 2013 20:47, gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com> wrote: > >You dont mean a spring boom do you ? Anything with a reverb spring at volume can sound a lot like an explosion if shaken, kicked or otherwise disturbed. > > > >On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> >>Arthurized !! >> >> >> >> -Bruce D. >> >> >> >>From: tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> >>To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> >>Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:28 AM >>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious >> >> >> >>No idea. Send me a recording and we'll take a listen.....and still have no idea. >> >> >>Arthur Crap >>1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons >> >> >>mellotronics.com on my iPad >> >> >> >> >> >> >>On 8 Jun 2013, at 02:17, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>What causes that sound my tron makes from time to time? A short clicking sound. When reverbed it sounds like a small explosion, it seems to occur at random. I know it's not just my tron as I've heard it at the end of one of Woolly's recordings from the BBC. >>> >>> >>>Mark > > > >-- > > >Gino Wong Birgelo >BSComm, BSEE, >ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design >Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics > > > >Ginowong@gmail.com > > > > -- Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
2013-06-09 by Fritz Doddy
I use to get static electricity pops on my tron. Took it off carpet, no more pops Sorry for the brevity as I am replying from a remote region of iPhonekstan. fritzdoddy
On Jun 9, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: > What's a tape zip? I think it's probably electrical, seems to be in the signal out rather than an acoustic sound. Doesn't matter if I'm playing or not, just has to be turned on. Cannons in pomp and circumstance, now there's a thought. > > Mark > > From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, 9 June 2013 6:44 PM > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious > > > Banging on the Mk V spring reverb is how I made the cannon sounds in 'Pomp and Circumstance'. :-) > > Could it be tape zip? Sounds more likely. > > > On 8 June 2013 20:47, gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com> wrote: > > You dont mean a spring boom do you ? Anything with a reverb spring at volume can sound a lot like an explosion if shaken, kicked or otherwise disturbed. > > > On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Arthurized !! > > > > -Bruce D. > > > From: tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> > To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:28 AM > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious > > No idea. Send me a recording and we'll take a listen.....and still have no idea. > > Arthur Crap > 1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons > > mellotronics.com on my iPad > > > > On 8 Jun 2013, at 02:17, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> What causes that sound my tron makes from time to time? A short clicking sound. When reverbed it sounds like a small explosion, it seems to occur at random. I know it's not just my tron as I've heard it at the end of one of Woolly's recordings from the BBC. >> >> Mark > > > > > -- > > Gino Wong Birgelo > BSComm, BSEE, > ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design > Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics > > Ginowong@gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Mike Dickson, Edinburgh > > >
2013-06-09 by Bruce Daily
Good point, Fritz. Another possibility is an intermittent ground loop through the track selector switch. Jerry Korb found a way to get rid of this. See Ken Leonard's Moneypit session here for a description: www.kleonard.com/mellotron/vt0206/work.htm Scroll down. The fix is shown in the 3rd item of the "Korb's Mods" box. Thanks Ken. I hope this helps. -Bruce D. ________________________________ From: Fritz Doddy <fdoddy@aol.com> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious I use to get static electricity pops on my tron. Took it off carpet, no more popsSorry for the brevity as I am replying from a remote region of iPhonekstan. fritzdoddy
On Jun 9, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: >What's a tape zip? I think it's probably electrical, seems to be in the signal out rather than an acoustic sound. Doesn't matter if I'm playing or not, just has to be turned on. Cannons in pomp and circumstance, now there's a thought. > > >Mark > > > >________________________________ > From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> >To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Sunday, 9 June 2013 6:44 PM >Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious > > >Banging on the Mk V spring reverb is how I made the cannon sounds in 'Pomp and Circumstance'. :-) >Could it be tape zip? Sounds more likely. >On 8 June 2013 20:47, gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>You dont mean a spring boom do you ? Anything with a reverb spring at volume can sound a lot like an explosion if shaken, kicked or otherwise disturbed. >>On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>Arthurized !! >>> >>> >>> >>> -Bruce D. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> >>>To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> >>>Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:28 AM >>>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious >>> >>> >>> >>>No idea. Send me a recording and we'll take a listen.....and still have no idea. >>> >>> >>>Arthur Crap >>>1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons >>> >>> >>>mellotronics.com on my iPad >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>On 8 Jun 2013, at 02:17, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>>What causes that sound my tron makes from time to time? A short clicking sound. When reverbed it sounds like a small explosion, it seems to occur at random. I know it's not just my tron as I've heard it at the end of one of Woolly's recordings from the BBC. >>>> >>>> >>>>Mark >> >>-- >> >>Gino Wong Birgelo >>BSComm, BSEE, >>ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design >>Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics >> >> >>Ginowong@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
2013-06-09 by Mark Pring
Thanks Bruce and Fritz, I think it is probably static build up. The Moneypit site is fascinating, almost makes me afraid to switch #1565 on! Mark ________________________________
From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, 10 June 2013 3:57 AM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious Good point, Fritz. Another possibility is an intermittent ground loop through the track selector switch. Jerry Korb found a way to get rid of this. See Ken Leonard's Moneypit session here for a description: www.kleonard.com/mellotron/vt0206/work.htm Scroll down. The fix is shown in the 3rd item of the "Korb's Mods" box. Thanks Ken. I hope this helps. -Bruce D. From: Fritz Doddy <fdoddy@aol.com> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious I use to get static electricity pops on my tron. Took it off carpet, no more pops Sorry for the brevity as I am replying from a remote region of iPhonekstan. fritzdoddy On Jun 9, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: >What's a tape zip? I think it's probably electrical, seems to be in the signal out rather than an acoustic sound. Doesn't matter if I'm playing or not, just has to be turned on. Cannons in pomp and circumstance, now there's a thought. > > >Mark > > >From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> >To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Sunday, 9 June 2013 6:44 PM >Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious > > >Banging on the Mk V spring reverb is how I made the cannon sounds in 'Pomp and Circumstance'. :-) >Could it be tape zip? Sounds more likely. >On 8 June 2013 20:47, gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>You dont mean a spring boom do you ? Anything with a reverb spring at volume can sound a lot like an explosion if shaken, kicked or otherwise disturbed. >>On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>Arthurized !! >>> >>> >>> >>> -Bruce D. >>> >>> >>> >>>From: tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> >>>To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> >>>Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:28 AM >>>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious >>> >>> >>> >>>No idea. Send me a recording and we'll take a listen.....and still have no idea. >>> >>> >>>Arthur Crap >>>1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons >>> >>> >>>mellotronics.com on my iPad >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>On 8 Jun 2013, at 02:17, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>>What causes that sound my tron makes from time to time? A short clicking sound. When reverbed it sounds like a small explosion, it seems to occur at random. I know it's not just my tron as I've heard it at the end of one of Woolly's recordings from the BBC. >>>> >>>> >>>>Mark >> >>-- >> >>Gino Wong Birgelo >>BSComm, BSEE, >>ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design >>Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics >> >> >>Ginowong@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
2013-06-09 by tronbros
Static in mellotrons.... In some parts of the world there are still two pin wall sockets being used. This system is where the neutral is also the ground. This is okay for electrical safety BUT it does not drain static. For that you need a proper ground/earth wire from the main frame of the 'tron to a rod in the earth. Unless you have a true ground, problems will ensue. So the rule of thumb is to have a live, neutral AND earth. Best, M 1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons mellotronics.com on my iPad
On 9 Jun 2013, at 20:31, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: > Thanks Bruce and Fritz, I think it is probably static build up. The Moneypit site is fascinating, almost makes me afraid to switch #1565 on! > > Mark > > From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> > To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, 10 June 2013 3:57 AM > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious > > > Good point, Fritz. > > Another possibility is an intermittent ground loop through the track selector switch. Jerry Korb found a way to get rid of this. See Ken Leonard's Moneypit session here for a description: > www.kleonard.com/mellotron/vt0206/work.htm > > Scroll down. The fix is shown in the 3rd item of the "Korb's Mods" box. Thanks Ken. > I hope this helps. > > -Bruce D. > > > From: Fritz Doddy <fdoddy@aol.com> > To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 6:57 AM > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious > > I use to get static electricity pops on my tron. Took it off carpet, no more pops Sorry for the brevity as I am replying from a remote region of iPhonekstan. > > fritzdoddy > On Jun 9, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> What's a tape zip? I think it's probably electrical, seems to be in the signal out rather than an acoustic sound. Doesn't matter if I'm playing or not, just has to be turned on. Cannons in pomp and circumstance, now there's a thought. >> >> Mark >> >> From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> >> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Sunday, 9 June 2013 6:44 PM >> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious >> >> Banging on the Mk V spring reverb is how I made the cannon sounds in 'Pomp and Circumstance'. :-) >> Could it be tape zip? Sounds more likely. >> On 8 June 2013 20:47, gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> You dont mean a spring boom do you ? Anything with a reverb spring at volume can sound a lot like an explosion if shaken, kicked or otherwise disturbed. >> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Arthurized !! >> >> >> >> -Bruce D. >> >> >> From: tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> >> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:28 AM >> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious >> >> No idea. Send me a recording and we'll take a listen.....and still have no idea. >> >> Arthur Crap >> 1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons >> >> mellotronics.com on my iPad >> >> >> >> On 8 Jun 2013, at 02:17, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> What causes that sound my tron makes from time to time? A short clicking sound. When reverbed it sounds like a small explosion, it seems to occur at random. I know it's not just my tron as I've heard it at the end of one of Woolly's recordings from the BBC. >>> >>> Mark >> >> >> -- >> >> Gino Wong Birgelo >> BSComm, BSEE, >> ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design >> Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics >> >> Ginowong@gmail.com >> >> >> -- Mike Dickson, Edinburgh > > >
2013-06-09 by Mark Pring
Thanks Martin, we do have 3 pin plugs here. It does sound like some kind of electrical discharge, it only happens 2-3 times per hour so it's not a major problem. Mark ________________________________
From: tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, 10 June 2013 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious Static in mellotrons.... In some parts of the world there are still two pin wall sockets being used. This system is where the neutral is also the ground. This is okay for electrical safety BUT it does not drain static. For that you need a proper ground/earth wire from the main frame of the 'tron to a rod in the earth. Unless you have a true ground, problems will ensue. So the rule of thumb is to have a live, neutral AND earth. Best, M 1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons mellotronics.com on my iPad On 9 Jun 2013, at 20:31, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: >Thanks Bruce and Fritz, I think it is probably static build up. The Moneypit site is fascinating, almost makes me afraid to switch #1565 on! > > >Mark > > > >________________________________ > From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> >To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Monday, 10 June 2013 3:57 AM >Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious > > > > >Good point, Fritz. > >Another possibility is an intermittent ground loop through the track selector switch. Jerry Korb found a way to get rid of this. See Ken Leonard's Moneypit session here for a description: >www.kleonard.com/mellotron/vt0206/work.htm > >Scroll down. The fix is shown in the 3rd item of the "Korb's Mods" box. Thanks Ken. >I hope this helps. > > -Bruce D. > >From: Fritz Doddy <fdoddy@aol.com> >To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 6:57 AM >Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious > > >I use to get static electricity pops on my tron. Took it off carpet, no more pops Sorry for the brevity as I am replying from a remote region of iPhonekstan. > > >fritzdoddy >On Jun 9, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>What's a tape zip? I think it's probably electrical, seems to be in the signal out rather than an acoustic sound. Doesn't matter if I'm playing or not, just has to be turned on. Cannons in pomp and circumstance, now there's a thought. >> >> >>Mark >> >> >>From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> >>To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com >>Sent: Sunday, 9 June 2013 6:44 PM >>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious >> >> >>Banging on the Mk V spring reverb is how I made the cannon sounds in 'Pomp and Circumstance'. :-) >>Could it be tape zip? Sounds more likely. >>On 8 June 2013 20:47, gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>You dont mean a spring boom do you ? Anything with a reverb spring at volume can sound a lot like an explosion if shaken, kicked or otherwise disturbed. >>>On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>Arthurized !! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Bruce D. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>From: tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> >>>>To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> >>>>Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:28 AM >>>>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>No idea. Send me a recording and we'll take a listen.....and still have no idea. >>>> >>>> >>>>Arthur Crap >>>>1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons >>>> >>>> >>>>mellotronics.com on my iPad >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On 8 Jun 2013, at 02:17, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>What causes that sound my tron makes from time to time? A short clicking sound. When reverbed it sounds like a small explosion, it seems to occur at random. I know it's not just my tron as I've heard it at the end of one of Woolly's recordings from the BBC. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Mark >>> >>>-- >>> >>>Gino Wong Birgelo >>>BSComm, BSEE, >>>ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design >>>Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics >>> >>> >>>Ginowong@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Mike Dickson, Edinburgh > >
2013-06-09 by Nic Lewis
Static in mellotrons....
In some parts of the world there are still two pin wall sockets being used. This system is where the neutral is also the ground. This is okay for electrical safety BUT it does not drain static.
For that you need a proper ground/earth wire from the main frame of the 'tron to a rod in the earth. Unless you have a true ground, problems will ensue. So the rule of thumb is to have a live, neutral AND earth.
Best,
M
1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons
mellotronics.com on my iPad
On 9 Jun 2013, at 20:31, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks Bruce and Fritz, I think it is probably static build up. The Moneypit site is fascinating, almost makes me afraid to switch #1565 on!
Mark
From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com>
To: " newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" < newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 10 June 2013 3:57 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious
Good point, Fritz.
Another possibility is an intermittent ground loop through the track selector switch. Jerry Korb found a way to get rid of this. See Ken Leonard's Moneypit session here for a description:
www.kleonard.com/mellotron/vt0206/work.htm
Scroll down. The fix is shown in the 3rd item of the "Korb's Mods" box. Thanks Ken.
I hope this helps.
-Bruce D.
From: Fritz Doddy <fdoddy@aol.com>
To: " newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" < newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious
I use to get static electricity pops on my tron. Took it off carpet, no more pops Sorry for the brevity as I am replying from a remote region of iPhonekstan.
fritzdoddy
On Jun 9, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote:
What's a tape zip? I think it's probably electrical, seems to be in the signal out rather than an acoustic sound. Doesn't matter if I'm playing or not, just has to be turned on. Cannons in pomp and circumstance, now there's a thought.
Mark
From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com >
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 9 June 2013 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious
Banging on the Mk V spring reverb is how I made the cannon sounds in 'Pomp and Circumstance'. :-)
Could it be tape zip? Sounds more likely.
On 8 June 2013 20:47, gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com> wrote:
You dont mean a spring boom do you ? Anything with a reverb spring at volume can sound a lot like an explosion if shaken, kicked or otherwise disturbed.
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> wrote:
Arthurized !!
-Bruce D.
From: tronbros <tronbros@aol.com>
To: " newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" < newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious
No idea. Send me a recording and we'll take a listen.....and still have no idea.
Arthur Crap
1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons
mellotronics.com on my iPad
On 8 Jun 2013, at 02:17, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote:
What causes that sound my tron makes from time to time? A short clicking sound. When reverbed it sounds like a small explosion, it seems to occur at random. I know it's not just my tron as I've heard it at the end of one of Woolly's recordings from the BBC.
Mark
--
Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics
Ginowong@gmail.com
-- Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
2013-06-09 by tronbros
Tape zip is where the pad is over adjusted because of poor contact with the head and the sound of a played tape returning to the start position. The narrow clearance means the tape kisses the head on the return journey. Cure....correct pad adjustment and maybe replace ancient tapes that have a strong memory of the tape housing configuration! M 1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons mellotronics.com on my iPad On 9 Jun 2013, at 20:31, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: > What's a tape zip
2013-06-09 by Mark Pring
Thanks Martin, definitely haven't got that. ________________________________
From: tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, 10 June 2013 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious Tape zip is where the pad is over adjusted because of poor contact with the head and the sound of a played tape returning to the start position. The narrow clearance means the tape kisses the head on the return journey. Cure....correct pad adjustment and maybe replace ancient tapes that have a strong memory of the tape housing configuration! M 1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons mellotronics.com on my iPad On 9 Jun 2013, at 20:31, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: > What's a tape zip
2013-06-10 by Bruce Daily
Hi all- Ken L. also credits John Bradley with the selector switch fix, and should be mentioned here. Upon review, the type of noise resulting from the selector is probably lower than the pops you are getting, Mark. Static appears to be the issue. A local ground is good to have. Martin has a good point that the neutral ground could be miles from your location, and a local earth ground is needed. Here in the States thieves are stealing whatever copper they can find, including exposed wires they can clip from light poles or houses. Many local grounds suddenly disappear. Check 'em. Cracked solder joints in the tron's circuits might also be the noise source. These things can happen after 40 odd years. Some solder touch-up work may be due. My power supply needed serious rework. Are you dangerous with a soldering iron, Mark? -Bruce D. ________________________________
From: tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious Static in mellotrons.... In some parts of the world there are still two pin wall sockets being used. This system is where the neutral is also the ground. This is okay for electrical safety BUT it does not drain static. For that you need a proper ground/earth wire from the main frame of the 'tron to a rod in the earth. Unless you have a true ground, problems will ensue. So the rule of thumb is to have a live, neutral AND earth. Best, M 1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons mellotronics.com on my iPad On 9 Jun 2013, at 20:31, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: >Thanks Bruce and Fritz, I think it is probably static build up. The Moneypit site is fascinating, almost makes me afraid to switch #1565 on! > > >Mark > > > >________________________________ > From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> >To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Monday, 10 June 2013 3:57 AM >Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious > > >Good point, Fritz. > >Another possibility is an intermittent ground loop through the track selector switch. Jerry Korb found a way to get rid of this. See Ken Leonard's Moneypit session here for a description: >www.kleonard.com/mellotron/vt0206/work.htm > >Scroll down. The fix is shown in the 3rd item of the "Korb's Mods" box. Thanks Ken. >I hope this helps. > > -Bruce D. > > >________________________________ > From: Fritz Doddy <fdoddy@aol.com> >To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 6:57 AM >Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious > > >I use to get static electricity pops on my tron. Took it off carpet, no more pops Sorry for the brevity as I am replying from a remote region of iPhonekstan. > > >fritzdoddy >On Jun 9, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>What's a tape zip? I think it's probably electrical, seems to be in the signal out rather than an acoustic sound. Doesn't matter if I'm playing or not, just has to be turned on. Cannons in pomp and circumstance, now there's a thought. >> >> >>Mark >> >> >> >>________________________________ >> From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> >>To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com >>Sent: Sunday, 9 June 2013 6:44 PM >>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious >> >> >>Banging on the Mk V spring reverb is how I made the cannon sounds in 'Pomp and Circumstance'. :-) >>Could it be tape zip? Sounds more likely. >>On 8 June 2013 20:47, gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>You dont mean a spring boom do you ? Anything with a reverb spring at volume can sound a lot like an explosion if shaken, kicked or otherwise disturbed. >>>On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>Arthurized !! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Bruce D. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> >>>>To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> >>>>Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:28 AM >>>>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>No idea. Send me a recording and we'll take a listen.....and still have no idea. >>>> >>>> >>>>Arthur Crap >>>>1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons >>>> >>>> >>>>mellotronics.com on my iPad >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On 8 Jun 2013, at 02:17, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>What causes that sound my tron makes from time to time? A short clicking sound. When reverbed it sounds like a small explosion, it seems to occur at random. I know it's not just my tron as I've heard it at the end of one of Woolly's recordings from the BBC. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Mark >>> >>>-- >>> >>>Gino Wong Birgelo >>>BSComm, BSEE, >>>ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design >>>Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics >>> >>> >>>Ginowong@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
2013-06-11 by Mark Pring
Yes! Thanks Bruce. ________________________________
From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2013 1:54 AM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious Are you dangerous with a soldering iron, Mark? -Bruce D. From: tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious Static in mellotrons.... In some parts of the world there are still two pin wall sockets being used. This system is where the neutral is also the ground. This is okay for electrical safety BUT it does not drain static. For that you need a proper ground/earth wire from the main frame of the 'tron to a rod in the earth. Unless you have a true ground, problems will ensue. So the rule of thumb is to have a live, neutral AND earth. Best, M 1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons mellotronics.com on my iPad On 9 Jun 2013, at 20:31, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: >Thanks Bruce and Fritz, I think it is probably static build up. The Moneypit site is fascinating, almost makes me afraid to switch #1565 on! > > >Mark > > >From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> >To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Monday, 10 June 2013 3:57 AM >Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious > > >Good point, Fritz. > >Another possibility is an intermittent ground loop through the track selector switch. Jerry Korb found a way to get rid of this. See Ken Leonard's Moneypit session here for a description: >www.kleonard.com/mellotron/vt0206/work.htm > >Scroll down. The fix is shown in the 3rd item of the "Korb's Mods" box. Thanks Ken. >I hope this helps. > > -Bruce D. > >From: Fritz Doddy <fdoddy@aol.com> >To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 6:57 AM >Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious > > >I use to get static electricity pops on my tron. Took it off carpet, no more pops Sorry for the brevity as I am replying from a remote region of iPhonekstan. > > >fritzdoddy >On Jun 9, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>What's a tape zip? I think it's probably electrical, seems to be in the signal out rather than an acoustic sound. Doesn't matter if I'm playing or not, just has to be turned on. Cannons in pomp and circumstance, now there's a thought. >> >> >>Mark >> >> >>From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> >>To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com >>Sent: Sunday, 9 June 2013 6:44 PM >>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious >> >> >>Banging on the Mk V spring reverb is how I made the cannon sounds in 'Pomp and Circumstance'. :-) >>Could it be tape zip? Sounds more likely. >>On 8 June 2013 20:47, gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>You dont mean a spring boom do you ? Anything with a reverb spring at volume can sound a lot like an explosion if shaken, kicked or otherwise disturbed. >>>On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>Arthurized !! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Bruce D. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>From: tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> >>>>To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> >>>>Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:28 AM >>>>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Just Curious >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>No idea. Send me a recording and we'll take a listen.....and still have no idea. >>>> >>>> >>>>Arthur Crap >>>>1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons >>>> >>>> >>>>mellotronics.com on my iPad >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On 8 Jun 2013, at 02:17, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>What causes that sound my tron makes from time to time? A short clicking sound. When reverbed it sounds like a small explosion, it seems to occur at random. I know it's not just my tron as I've heard it at the end of one of Woolly's recordings from the BBC. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Mark >>> >>>-- >>> >>>Gino Wong Birgelo >>>BSComm, BSEE, >>>ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design >>>Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics >>> >>> >>>Ginowong@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Mike Dickson, Edinburgh