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M300 Cycling issue

M300 Cycling issue

2013-07-12 by Hammonddave

So I experienced my first cycling mishap tonight (that didn't take long)... I cycled from station 1 to 6, I heard a loud high pitched squeal, and some of the tape was misaligned on the rear drum.

So my question is,,,, should I try try to manually roll the drum back to station 1 hoping the tape straightens itself out and realigns?


Thanks in advance.

David

Re: [newmellotrongroup] M300 Cycling issue

2013-07-12 by Chris Dale

You could try that, but you're also in danger of getting the tape caught on other things as you wind it back.

Some of the M300's were prone to this problem because of the material the guides were made from.

You have to cycle these models manually (only by hand).


Chris
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On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Hammonddave <hammonddave2004@yahoo.com> wrote:

So I experienced my first cycling mishap tonight (that didn't take long)... I cycled from station 1 to 6, I heard a loud high pitched squeal, and some of the tape was misaligned on the rear drum.

So my question is,,,, should I try try to manually roll the drum back to station 1 hoping the tape straightens itself out and realigns?

Thanks in advance.

David


Re: [newmellotrongroup] M300 Cycling issue

2013-07-12 by Hammonddave

Thanks Chris.....

David Jacques
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On Jul 11, 2013, at 21:51, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com> wrote:

> You could try that, but you're also in danger of getting the tape caught on other things as you wind it back.
> 
> Some of the M300's were prone to this problem because of the material the guides were made from. 
> 
> You have to cycle these models manually (only by hand). 
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> Chris
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> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Hammonddave <hammonddave2004@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>  
>> So I experienced my first cycling mishap tonight (that didn't take long)... I cycled from station 1 to 6, I heard a loud high pitched squeal, and some of the tape was misaligned on the rear drum.
>> 
>> So my question is,,,, should I try try to manually roll the drum back to station 1 hoping the tape straightens itself out and realigns?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> David 
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>

Re: M300 Cycling issue

2013-07-12 by tron400

Because of the age of these cycling machines, Jerry Korb would never cycle more than one station at a time for fear of spilling tapes. The 1/4" tape is also more prone to static buildup, causing tape stickies. Fortunately, the new machines don't and won't suffer this problem.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Hammonddave <hammonddave2004@...> wrote:
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> So I experienced my first cycling mishap tonight (that didn't take long)... I cycled from station 1 to 6, I heard a loud high pitched squeal, and some of the tape was misaligned on the rear drum.
> 
> So my question is,,,, should I try try to manually roll the drum back to station 1 hoping the tape straightens itself out and realigns?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> David
>

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M300 Cycling issue

2013-07-12 by Hessel Herder

Wasn't there mention of the chains being too slack? Maybe that explains the
misalignment in winding the tape on the drum?

 

The squeal is odd. I sometimes get that when a tape is stuck in or before
the tapebox.Power off as quickly as possible .

 

 

Van: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] Namens tron400
Verzonden: vrijdag 12 juli 2013 13:03
Aan: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M300 Cycling issue

 

  

Because of the age of these cycling machines, Jerry Korb would never cycle
more than one station at a time for fear of spilling tapes. The 1/4" tape is
also more prone to static buildup, causing tape stickies. Fortunately, the
new machines don't and won't suffer this problem.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> , Hammonddave
<hammonddave2004@...> wrote:
>
> So I experienced my first cycling mishap tonight (that didn't take
long)... I cycled from station 1 to 6, I heard a loud high pitched squeal,
and some of the tape was misaligned on the rear drum.
> 
> So my question is,,,, should I try try to manually roll the drum back to
station 1 hoping the tape straightens itself out and realigns?
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> Thanks in advance.
> 
> David
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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M300 Cycling issue

2013-07-12 by Hammonddave

No, the chains were not slack...  The problem was that the clutch was not tight, I tightened it and the cycling worked quite well...  Until last night....

David 
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On Jul 12, 2013, at 7:21, "Hessel Herder" <hessel@soundscape-worldwide.com> wrote:

> Wasn’t there mention of the chains being too slack? Maybe that explains the misalignment in winding the tape on the drum?
> 
>  
> 
> The squeal is odd. I sometimes get that when a tape is stuck in or before the tapebox.Power off as quickly as possible …
> 
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> 
>  
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> Van: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] Namens tron400
> Verzonden: vrijdag 12 juli 2013 13:03
> Aan: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Onderwerp: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M300 Cycling issue
> 
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> 
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> 
> Because of the age of these cycling machines, Jerry Korb would never cycle more than one station at a time for fear of spilling tapes. The 1/4" tape is also more prone to static buildup, causing tape stickies. Fortunately, the new machines don't and won't suffer this problem.
> 
> Bernie
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Hammonddave <hammonddave2004@...> wrote:
> >
> > So I experienced my first cycling mishap tonight (that didn't take long)... I cycled from station 1 to 6, I heard a loud high pitched squeal, and some of the tape was misaligned on the rear drum.
> > 
> > So my question is,,,, should I try try to manually roll the drum back to station 1 hoping the tape straightens itself out and realigns?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > David
> >
> 
> 
>

Re: M300 Cycling issue

2013-07-12 by tripod4661

As a fellow M300 owner (but this applies to MkIIs as well) I'd advise making sure the tape isn't wrapped around anything else before you do anything. Take the keyboard out and maybe the front pin rail as well to expose the whole tape path and have a good look. Then undo the clutch and gently wind it back, unraveling any tape as you go. Did you find out what the squeak was? Usually loud squeaks are associated with tape mishaps jamming the cycling mechanism and stretched tape!!

If you need any advice email me privately on j.k.bereford@shef.ac.uk



bw John







--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Hammonddave <hammonddave2004@...> wrote:
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> So I experienced my first cycling mishap tonight (that didn't take long)... I cycled from station 1 to 6, I heard a loud high pitched squeal, and some of the tape was misaligned on the rear drum.
> 
> So my question is,,,, should I try try to manually roll the drum back to station 1 hoping the tape straightens itself out and realigns?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> David
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M300 Cycling issue

2013-07-12 by Hammonddave

John

The email below bounces back. Is that the correct address?

I did open it up and the tape is jammed and wrapped around the front roller. I am very afraid to turn the roller. I have pictures.  

Welcome to cycling machines, I guess. Just wish it didn't happen in front of my wife. LOL. 

David
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On Jul 12, 2013, at 8:00 AM, "tripod4661" <j.k.beresford@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> As a fellow M300 owner (but this applies to MkIIs as well) I'd advise making sure the tape isn't wrapped around anything else before you do anything. Take the keyboard out and maybe the front pin rail as well to expose the whole tape path and have a good look. Then undo the clutch and gently wind it back, unraveling any tape as you go. Did you find out what the squeak was? Usually loud squeaks are associated with tape mishaps jamming the cycling mechanism and stretched tape!!
> 
> If you need any advice email me privately on j.k.bereford@shef.ac.uk
> 
> bw John
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Hammonddave <hammonddave2004@...> wrote:
> >
> > So I experienced my first cycling mishap tonight (that didn't take long)... I cycled from station 1 to 6, I heard a loud high pitched squeal, and some of the tape was misaligned on the rear drum.
> > 
> > So my question is,,,, should I try try to manually roll the drum back to station 1 hoping the tape straightens itself out and realigns?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > David
> >
> 
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M300 Cycling issue

2013-07-12 by Bill Rudloff

Try this one maybe?
j.k.beresford@hotmail.co.uk

 Bill Rudloff

 

 

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From: Hammonddave <hammonddave2004@yahoo.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:47 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M300 Cycling issue



  
    
                  

John


The email below bounces back. Is that the correct address?


I did open it up and the tape is jammed and wrapped around the front roller. I am very afraid to turn the roller. I have pictures.  


Welcome to cycling machines, I guess. Just wish it didn't happen in front of my wife. LOL. 

David

On Jul 12, 2013, at 8:00 AM, "tripod4661" <j.k.beresford@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:



     
                  
As a fellow M300 owner (but this applies to MkIIs as well) I'd advise making sure the tape isn't wrapped around anything else before you do anything. Take the keyboard out and maybe the front pin rail as well to expose the whole tape path and have a good look. Then undo the clutch and gently wind it back, unraveling any tape as you go. Did you find out what the squeak was? Usually loud squeaks are associated with tape mishaps jamming the cycling mechanism and stretched tape!!

If you need any advice email me privately on j.k.bereford@shef.ac.uk

bw John

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Hammonddave <hammonddave2004@...> wrote:
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> So I experienced my first cycling mishap tonight (that didn't take long)... I cycled from station 1 to 6, I heard a loud high pitched squeal, and some of the tape was misaligned on the rear drum.
> 
> So my question is,,,, should I try try to manually roll the drum back to station 1 hoping the tape straightens itself out and realigns?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> David
>

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