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Facing The Music

2009-08-15 by Mike Dickson

I've just acquired a copy of the remastered ELO album 'Face The Music' and it's a substantial improvement on the rather muddy and compressed original (which makes me think that remastering is only one of the things that has happened here) that I played when I was about 14 or so. Musically it's better than I thought, though not a patch on the rather more inventive 'Eldorado' and sort of indicates the somewhat depressing downward trajectory that led to their more *meh* pop stuff that I can't really relate to.

However.

They constantly credit Richard Tandy with 'Mellotron' on their albums when I hear nary a note of the instrument on any of their recordings. Their endless split screen 'performance' videos (such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivFM0pYyUcY) show a Mellotron on the rig, but never seems to be used and appears to be little more than a keyboard stand. The three or four guys in the band who actually played strings were pretty much only cosmetically used subsequent to their album 'On The Third Day', their use being supplanted by a full string orchestra under Louis Clark's direction who could actually play in tune at more or less the same time, so it wasn't used to beef up the strings. The choir they used was a thirty voice selection of sessionists, so no eight voice choir in there as well.

So...where did they ever use a Mellotron?
-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Facing The Music

2009-08-16 by Paul Marshall

Evening all,
Well... on the 'Out of the Blue' 'Wembley '77 DVD, Richard Tandy has a 400 under his CS80, and definitely uses 8-choir on the last chorus in 'Rockaria'. I also fancy I can hear 8-choir on 'Wild West Hero' single (1978). But as you say no Mellotron strings anywhere!
PM
M400 #1380 (strings on everything, 8-choir now and again)


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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Facing The Music

2009-08-16 by lsf5275@aol.com

My guess is that it made a dandy place to set out a lunch spread during  
recording sessions.
 
 
In a message dated 8/15/2009 7:38:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mike.dickson@gmail.com writes:

So...where did they ever use a  Mellotron?

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Facing The Music

2009-08-16 by fdoddy@aol.com

Hah!? I wouldn't have taken you for an ELO fan.? I just adore Face the Music and Eldorado and will admit to having a soft spot for Out of the Blue as well. I love Jeff Lynne's tanky roomy drum sounds.


fd
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From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
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I've just acquired a copy of the remastered ELO album 'Face The Music'
and it's a substantial improvement on the rather muddy and compressed
original (which makes me think that remastering is only one of the
things that has happened here) that I played when I was about 14 or so.
Musically it's better than I thought, though not a patch on the rather
more inventive 'Eldorado' and sort of indicates the somewhat depressing
downward trajectory that led to their more *meh* pop stuff that I can't
really relate to.



However.



They constantly credit Richard Tandy with 'Mellotron' on their albums
when I hear nary a note of the instrument on any of their
recordings. Their endless split screen 'performance' videos (such as
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivFM0pYyUcY) show a Mellotron on the
rig, but never seems to be used and appears to be little more than a
keyboard stand. The three or four guys in the band who actually played
strings were pretty much only cosmetically used subsequent to their
album 'On The Third Day', their use being supplanted by a full string
orchestra under Louis Clark's direction who could actually play in tune
at more or less the same time, so it wasn't used to beef up the
strings. The choir they used was a thirty voice selection of
sessionists, so no eight voice choir in there as well. 



So...where did they ever use a Mellotron?



-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Facing The Music

2009-08-16 by Mike Dickson

I'm not really - the first two you mention are the only ones I have time for, even though it has taken the latest remastered versions to make it sound like the music isn't being played two houses away in a muffled party. I kind of lost interest in them with 'New World Record' which is the one most people rave about. You're right about the drums, though - the first second of 'Free As A Bird' made it completely apparent who was meddling here!

Still can't hear no Mellotron though....

fdoddy@aol.com wrote:

Hah! I wouldn't have taken you for an ELO fan. I just adore Face the Music and Eldorado and will admit to having a soft spot for Out of the Blue as well. I love Jeff Lynne's tanky roomy drum sounds.


fd


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I've just acquired a copy of the remastered ELO album 'Face The Music' and it's a substantial improvement on the rather muddy and compressed original (which makes me think that remastering is only one of the things that has happened here) that I played when I was about 14 or so. Musically it's better than I thought, though not a patch on the rather more inventive 'Eldorado' and sort of indicates the somewhat depressing downward trajectory that led to their more *meh* pop stuff that I can't really relate to.

However.

They constantly credit Richard Tandy with 'Mellotron' on their albums when I hear nary a note of the instrument on any of their recordings. Their endless split screen 'performance' videos (such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivFM0pYyUcY) show a Mellotron on the rig, but never seems to be used and appears to be little more than a keyboard stand. The three or four guys in the band who actually played strings were pretty much only cosmetically used subsequent to their album 'On The Third Day', their use being supplanted by a full string orchestra under Louis Clark's direction who could actually play in tune at more or less the same time, so it wasn't used to beef up the strings. The choir they used was a thirty voice selection of sessionists, so no eight voice choir in there as well.

So...where did they ever use a Mellotron?
-- 

Mike Dickson, Edinburgh



Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 

Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson

Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson

Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

  

-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Facing The Music

2009-08-18 by Andy Thompson

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:38 AM
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Facing The Music

I've just acquired a copy of the remastered ELO album 'Face The Music' and it's a substantial improvement on the rather muddy and compressed original (which makes me think that remastering is only one of the things that has happened here) that I played when I was about 14 or so. Musically it's better than I thought, though not a patch on the rather more inventive 'Eldorado' and sort of indicates the somewhat depressing downward trajectory that led to their more *meh* pop stuff that I can't really relate to.

However.

They constantly credit Richard Tandy with 'Mellotron' on their albums when I hear nary a note of the instrument on any of their recordings. Their endless split screen 'performance' videos (such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivFM0pYyUcY) show a Mellotron on the rig, but never seems to be used and appears to be little more than a keyboard stand. The three or four guys in the band who actually played strings were pretty much only cosmetically used subsequent to their album 'On The Third Day', their use being supplanted by a full string orchestra under Louis Clark's direction who could actually play in tune at more or less the same time, so it wasn't used to beef up the strings. The choir they used was a thirty voice selection of sessionists, so no eight voice choir in there as well.

So...where did they ever use a Mellotron?
On stage. On a trip to Streetly, years ago, Martin showed me a label taken from their tape-frame (amongst other things he showed me), with male voices, brass (don't know which) and a female voices/vibes split.
I've got two live albums, Live at Winterland '76 and Live at Wembley '78, seemingly using different tapes. Have a look at my reviews for more info: http://www.planetmellotron.com/reve2.htm#elo
 
As for the credits for 'Mellotron', someone wrote to me a while back pointing out that it seems to be listing their live rig, as it mentions their PA gear, which I rather doubt they used in the studio...
 
Does this clarify anything at all? Didn't think so...
 
Andy T.
M400#1145
 

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