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Court Samples

2009-10-16 by Mike Dickson

Further to the last...here is something for you to compare:

The 'classic' version of the chorus:
http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/30-Chorus.mp3

The 'revised' version:
http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/40-Chorus.mp3

The 'classic' pitch bend:
http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/30%20Sweep.mp3

The 'revised' version:
http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/40%20Sweep.mp3


-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

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Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
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Re: Court Samples

2009-10-16 by dan_miso

Mike:

These are a pretty startling omissions! Thanks for the side by side comparisons.

Dan

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@...> wrote:
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> Further to the last...here is something for you to compare:
> 
> The 'classic' version of the chorus:
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/30-Chorus.mp3
> 
> The 'revised' version:
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/40-Chorus.mp3
> 
> The 'classic' pitch bend:
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/30%20Sweep.mp3
> 
> The 'revised' version:
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/40%20Sweep.mp3
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
> 
> Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
> Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
> Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
> Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Court Samples

2009-10-16 by doctorwho8@aol.com

I think I like the new mixes.   The transitions aren't as harsh.   The 
pitchbend does seem to be cleaned up, but it is still there.   I think those two 
parts of the song you like are the parts I wasn't as fond off.   The new 
mixes flow better to me.
Bill Rudloff

In a message dated 10/16/09 2:08:37 PM, mike.dickson@gmail.com writes:
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> Further to the last...here is something for you to compare:
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> The 'classic' version of the chorus:
> http://www.mikedickhttp://www.http://www.http://www
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> The 'revised' version:
> http://www.mikedickhttp://www.http://www.http://www
> 
> The 'classic' pitch bend:
> http://www.mikedickhttp://www.http://www.http://www.
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> The 'revised' version:
> http://www.mikedickhttp://www.http://www.http://www.
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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Court Samples

2009-10-16 by David Jacques

Interesting.  I like the originals better. Too much Mellotron  
dissonance in the revised pitch bend...

In Epitaph I wonder why Fripp left out that High E note... Having it  
there seems to cap the crescendo and transition nice into the Em  
gloomy chord of the verse... The new version offers no such transition  
note... seems too abrupt.
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On Oct 16, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Mike Dickson wrote:

> Further to the last...here is something for you to compare:
>
> The 'classic' version of the chorus:
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/30-Chorus.mp3
>
> The 'revised' version:
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/40-Chorus.mp3
>
> The 'classic' pitch bend:
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/30%20Sweep.mp3
>
> The 'revised' version:
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/40%20Sweep.mp3
>
> -- 
> Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
>
> Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/
> Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
> Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
> Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson
>
>
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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Court Samples

2009-10-16 by lsf5275@aol.com

Wow! that's a big difference on both tunes. Both are memorable moments that 
 define the songs. Shame!
 
 
In a message dated 10/16/2009 3:08:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mike.dickson@gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
Further to the last...here is something for you to compare:

The  'classic' version of the chorus:
_http://www.mikedickhttp://www.http://www.http://www_ 
(http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/30-Chorus.mp3) 

The  'revised' version:
_http://www.mikedickhttp://www.http://www.http://www_ 
(http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/40-Chorus.mp3) 

The  'classic' pitch bend:
_http://www.mikedickhttp://www.http://www.http://www._ 
(http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/30%20Sweep.mp3) 

The  'revised' version:
_http://www.mikedickhttp://www.http://www.http://www._ 
(http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/40%20Sweep.mp3) 

--  
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: _http://www.mikedickhttp://www._ 
(http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/)   
Or _http://www.last.http://wwhttp://www.l_ 
(http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson) 
Or  _http://soundcloud.http://soundclo_ (http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson) 
Or  _http://www.planetmehttp://www.phttp://wwwhttp://www._ 
(http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson)

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Court Samples

2009-10-16 by David Jacques

So Strange that the Mellotron line does not resolve to the high E... I  
don't know how anyone could claim that these changes make the songs  
more seamless...
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On Oct 16, 2009, at 1:03 PM, lsf5275@aol.com wrote:

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> Wow! that's a big difference on both tunes. Both are memorable  
> moments that define the songs. Shame!
>
> In a message dated 10/16/2009 3:08:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mike.dickson@gmail.com 
>  writes:
>
> Further to the last...here is something for you to compare:
>
> The 'classic' version of the chorus:
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/30-Chorus.mp3
>
> The 'revised' version:
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/40-Chorus.mp3
>
> The 'classic' pitch bend:
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/30%20Sweep.mp3
>
> The 'revised' version:
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/40%20Sweep.mp3
>
> -- 
> Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
>
> Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/
> Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
> Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
> Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson
>
>
>
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Court Samples

2009-10-16 by doctorwho8@aol.com


In a message dated 10/16/09 3:52:50 PM, djacques@csulb.edu writes:



So Strange that the Mellotron line does not resolve to the high E... I don't know how anyone could claim that these changes make the songs more seamless...

They are there, they are just not quite as pronouced in the new mixes. I could hear the High E, but it was now underneath the lower Mellotron Chords at the beginning of the next musical phrase. Those chords are now more prominent after the sting of the ascending solo Mellotron line.
Bill Rudloff

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Court Samples

2009-10-16 by Bruce Daily

Thanks, Mike!
Classic is better in both cases.
I prefer the classic pitch bend mix. During the volume swell, it has seperation and ambience that grows to envelope the listener, whereas the revised version seems to swell in volume from the center only. And yes, the pitchbend is there in the new mix, but quite buried.
-Bruce D.

--- On Fri, 10/16/09, Mike Dickson wrote:
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From: Mike Dickson
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Court Samples
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 12:44 PM


Re: [newmellotrongroup] Court Samples

2009-10-17 by caddyfam

You just cannot beat the original.  Personally, I'd like to
know how they did the pitch bend, seems to be too many notes
to free a hand up to turn the pitch.  Our band reluctantly
agreed to do a "prog" set next year, and Epitaph hopefully
will end the set.  I've tried to figure out what parts to do
with only one guitar and bass and drummer, results of first
attempt on YOUTUBE.  Doug



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>Further to the last...here is something for you to compare:
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>The 'classic' version of the chorus:
>http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/ private/30- Chorus.mp3
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>The 'revised' version:
>http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/ private/40- Chorus.mp3
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>The 'classic' pitch bend:
>http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/ private/30% 20Sweep.mp3
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>The 'revised' version:
>http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/ private/40% 20Sweep.mp3
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>-- 
>Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
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>Free Music Project: http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/ 
>Or http://www.last. fm/music/ Mike+Dickson
>Or http://soundcloud. com/mikedickson
>Or http://www.planetme llotron.com/ revd4.htm# mikedickson
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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Court Samples

2009-10-17 by sdavmor

Mike Dickson wrote:
>  
> 
> Further to the last...here is something for you to compare:
> 
> The 'classic' version of the chorus:
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/30-Chorus.mp3 
> <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/30-Chorus.mp3>
> 
> The 'revised' version:
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/40-Chorus.mp3 
> <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/40-Chorus.mp3>
> 
> The 'classic' pitch bend:
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/30%20Sweep.mp3 
> <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/30%20Sweep.mp3>
> 
> The 'revised' version:
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/40%20Sweep.mp3 
> <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/40%20Sweep.mp3>
> 
> -- 
> Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Thanks, Mike, for doing this. It makes for a very interesting
side-by-side comparison.
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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Court Samples

2009-10-17 by Mike Dickson

The question is 'which original'? I'be had two copies of the original Island pressing for years and they are great, but the 30th anniversary pressing on CD beat it hands down. The story is that the latest has gone back to visit earlier generations of multitracks, yet it sounds worse in the mix. There is no question that the sound quality is better, but what has been done with it?

caddyfam wrote:
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You just cannot beat the original. Personally, I'd like to
know how they did the pitch bend, seems to be too many notes
to free a hand up to turn the pitch. Our band reluctantly
agreed to do a "prog" set next year, and Epitaph hopefully
will end the set. I've tried to figure out what parts to do
with only one guitar and bass and drummer, results of first
attempt on YOUTUBE. Doug

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>Further to the last...here is something for you to compare:
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>The 'classic' version of the chorus:
>http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/ private/30- Chorus.mp3
>
>The 'revised' version:
>http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/ private/40- Chorus.mp3
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>The 'classic' pitch bend:
>http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/ private/30% 20Sweep.mp3
>
>The 'revised' version:
>http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/ private/40% 20Sweep.mp3
>
>--
>Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
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>Free Music Project: http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/
>Or http://www.last. fm/music/ Mike+Dickson
>Or http://soundcloud. com/mikedickson
>Or http://www.planetme llotron.com/ revd4.htm# mikedickson
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-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

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