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Genesis MkII brass

Genesis MkII brass

2010-06-18 by md1jkb

Hi all,
One thing that has puzzled me for a while that someone might be able to answer is that on early genesis live recordings eg the 70's box set the brass sounds completely different to the MkII brass I have on my trons. And yet I'm assured it's the same sound as used in all MkII's. If you listen to Willow farm for example or that bit immediately after it, it sounds to me like some kind of nasal buzzing/honking rather than brass. I can't replicate it at all. Is this how the brass did sound through MkII heads and tube preamps or is it something else?
John

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Genesis MkII brass

2010-06-18 by Tom Doncourt

Hi John, I\u2019ve heard a MkII and an m400 side by side through the same amplifier and didn\u2019t really hear a profound difference. Everything on those early Genesis albums has a distinct,weird eq. I would guess that it has more to do with the amplifier they recorded the MkII through on Foxtrot than the machines preamp or heads. I have to say that the mellotron on that album really has a distinctly weird sound- almost tinny at times- I love it>




Hi all,
One thing that has puzzled me for a while that someone might be able to answer is that on early genesis live recordings eg the 70's box set the brass sounds completely different to the MkII brass I have on my trons. And yet I'm assured it's the same sound as used in all MkII's. If you listen to Willow farm for example or that bit immediately after it, it sounds to me like some kind of nasal buzzing/honking rather than brass. I can't replicate it at all. Is this how the brass did sound through MkII heads and tube preamps or is it something else?
John






Re: [newmellotrongroup] Genesis MkII brass

2010-06-18 by fdoddy@aol.com

I dig the tinny sound too of those recordings.  The tron strings on "Close to the Edge" have a similar lofi kinda vibe which I dig.  All the important info happens in the midrange baby...


fritz....still not a big fan of reverb
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 Hi John, I’ve heard a MkII and an m400 side by side through the same amplifier and didn’t really hear a profound difference. Everything on those early Genesis albums has a distinct,weird eq. I would guess that it has more to do with the amplifier they recorded the MkII through on Foxtrot than the machines preamp or heads. I have to say that the mellotron on that album really has a distinctly weird sound- almost tinny at times- I love it>
 
 
   

Hi all,
One thing that has puzzled me for a while that someone might be able to answer is that on early genesis live recordings eg the 70's box set the brass sounds completely different to the MkII brass I have on my trons. And yet I'm assured it's the same sound as used in all MkII's. If you listen to Willow farm for example or that bit immediately after it, it sounds to me like some kind of nasal buzzing/honking rather than brass. I can't replicate it at all. Is this how the brass did sound through MkII heads and tube preamps or is it something else?
John

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Genesis MkII brass

2010-06-18 by kinchmusic@aol.com

At the risk of being proved wrong, I thought that it was Mixed Brass B on the 400 which sounded very bright in comparison to the Mk2.
I really like it allot.
Andy K

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Genesis MkII brass

2010-06-18 by John Wright

Interesting thread.  I've wondered about that "sound" too on early
Genesis.  I thought brass too, but wondered if at half speed or run
through some other kind of stomp box used at that time.
 
Sorry Fritz, but I'm strung out on reverb.  8 voice choir, Alesis
nanoverb set to large plate, a scooped EQ on my equalizer, Roland space
echo, volume and I'm in heaven.
 
Regards,
 
John
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I dig the tinny sound too of those recordings.  The tron strings on
"Close to the Edge" have a similar lofi kinda vibe which I dig.  All the
important info happens in the midrange baby...


fritz....still not a big fan of reverb





-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Doncourt <tomdcour@amnh.org>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Jun 18, 2010 10:19 am
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Genesis MkII brass


  

	Hi John, I've heard a MkII and an m400 side by side through the
same amplifier and didn't really hear a profound difference. Everything
on those early Genesis albums has a distinct,weird eq. I would guess
that it has more to do with the amplifier they recorded the MkII through
on Foxtrot than the machines preamp or heads. I have to say that the
mellotron on that album really has a distinctly weird sound- almost
tinny at times- I love it>
	 
	 
	   
	
	Hi all,
	One thing that has puzzled me for a while that someone might be
able to answer is that on early genesis live recordings eg the 70's box
set the brass sounds completely different to the MkII brass I have on my
trons. And yet I'm assured it's the same sound as used in all MkII's. If
you listen to Willow farm for example or that bit immediately after it,
it sounds to me like some kind of nasal buzzing/honking rather than
brass. I can't replicate it at all. Is this how the brass did sound
through MkII heads and tube preamps or is it something else?
	John

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Genesis MkII brass

2010-06-18 by Rick Blechta

On Jun 18, 2010, at 3:16 PM, John Wright wrote:

> Sorry Fritz, but I'm strung out on reverb.  8 voice choir, Alesis nanoverb set to large plate, a scooped EQ on my equalizer, Roland space echo, volume and I'm in heaven.
> 
A crisp, cold beer on a hot summer day does it for me, but to each his own...

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Genesis MkII brass

2010-06-18 by John Wright

Oops, yes you're right, but beer bottle is on the floor instead of the
Tron or Frank would kick my ass!

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On Jun 18, 2010, at 3:16 PM, John Wright wrote:


	
	Sorry Fritz, but I'm strung out on reverb.  8 voice choir,
Alesis nanoverb set to large plate, a scooped EQ on my equalizer, Roland
space echo, volume and I'm in heaven.


A crisp, cold beer on a hot summer day does it for me, but to each his
own...

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