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From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:48 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Child Prodigy

 

  

Once in a lifetime you might be lucky enough to see talent this great.

 

9 years old when she sang this.

 

http://www.youtube.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j_4HkK58ec&feature=related>
com/watch?v=3j_4HkK58ec&feature=related

From:  newmellotrongroup@  newmell  newmellotrongroup@<WBR  newmellotro  
newOn Behalf Of  lsf5275@aol.lsf
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:48  AM
To:  newmellotrongroup@  newmell  
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Child  Prodigy 
 
 
 
 
Once in a lifetime  you might be lucky enough to see talent this great.
 

 
9 years old when she  sang this.
 

 
_http://www.youtube.http://wwwhttp://www.yo&feature=related_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j_4HkK58ec&feature=related)

>  
>
> I love soaring. Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia. Awesome 
> videos.
>  
> In a message dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> jandjstrz@verizon.net writes:
>
>      
>
>     \u2026the view is tremendous.
>
>      
>
>     The soundtrack music isn\u2019t too bad either (sorry no \u2018tron)
>
>      
>
>     enjoy the scenery\u2026\u2026: )
>
>      
>
>      
>
>     http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related
>     <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zok7LltWU0E&feature=related>
>
>     http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related
>     <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3c__hg1A1A&feature=related>
>
>      
>
>      
>
>      
>
>     _Jim & Janet
>
>

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pomeroy RH Ranch 
  To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....


    
  Extra Cool - we have one of the more popular glider ports in So Calif a few miles away. The only real way to know when they're close is hearing the tow plane when it veers off after disconnect. I've been buzzed while hiking in the San Gabriel Mtns behind us by some pretty ballsy pilots - but this was something else...
  Vance

  lsf5275@aol.com wrote: 

      

    I love soaring. Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia. Awesome videos.

    In a message dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jandjstrz@verizon.net writes:
        

      …the view is tremendous.



      The soundtrack music isn’t too bad either (sorry no ‘tron)



      enjoy the scenery……: )





      http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related 

      http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related







      _Jim & Janet

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: tony1 
  To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....


    
   

  I was a solo "glider guider" at age 14. I had a total of 4 1/2 hours of instructor time before my release, while most adults require 24+ hours in an instructor enviroment.
  Doesn't hurt to have had a former WW2 fighter pilot father (P-51s), who kept flying his own aircraft until a year before ALS killed him at age 78.
  It's a wonderful experience and a lot like driving the race cars I enjoy (Formula One car next month), with the exception of having to get the aircraft on the ground in one piece on the first try.
  No "go arounds" in an unpowered plane!

  Try it you'll like it!

  Tony1
  PS bring a FAT wallet.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Pomeroy RH Ranch 
    To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:41 PM
    Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....


      
    Extra Cool - we have one of the more popular glider ports in So Calif a few miles away. The only real way to know when they're close is hearing the tow plane when it veers off after disconnect. I've been buzzed while hiking in the San Gabriel Mtns behind us by some pretty ballsy pilots - but this was something else...
    Vance

    lsf5275@aol.com wrote: 

        

      I love soaring. Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia. Awesome videos.

      In a message dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jandjstrz@verizon.net writes:
          

        …the view is tremendous.



        The soundtrack music isn’t too bad either (sorry no ‘tron)



        enjoy the scenery……: )





        http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related 

        http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related







        _Jim & Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pomeroy RH Ranch
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:41 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....

 

  

Extra Cool - we have one of the more popular glider ports in So Calif a few
miles away. The only real way to know when they're close is hearing the tow
plane when it veers off after disconnect. I've been buzzed while hiking in
the San Gabriel Mtns behind us by some pretty ballsy pilots - but this was
something else...
Vance

lsf5275@aol. <mailto:lsf5275@aol.com> com wrote: 

  

I love soaring. Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia. Awesome videos.

 

In a message dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jandjstrz@verizon.net writes:

  

.the view is tremendous.

 

The soundtrack music isn't too bad either (sorry no 'tron)

 

enjoy the scenery..: )

 

 

http://www.youtube.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zok7LltWU0E&feature=related>
com/...&feature=related 

http://www.youtube.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3c__hg1A1A&feature=related>
com/...&feature=related

 

 

 

_Jim & Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:52 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....

 

  

  

I was a solo "glider guider" at age 14. I had a total of 4 1/2 hours of instructor time before my release, while most adults require 24+ hours in an instructor enviroment.

Doesn't hurt to have had a former WW2 fighter pilot father (P-51s), who kept flying his own aircraft until a year before ALS killed him at age 78.

It's a wonderful experience and a lot like driving the race cars I enjoy (Formula One car next month), with the exception of having to get the aircraft on the ground in one piece on the first try.

No "go arounds" in an unpowered plane!

 

Try it you'll like it!

 

Tony1

PS bring a FAT wallet.

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Pomeroy <mailto:punchbowl4@earthlink.net>  RH Ranch 

To: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:41 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....

 

  

Extra Cool - we have one of the more popular glider ports in So Calif a few miles away. The only real way to know when they're close is hearing the tow plane when it veers off after disconnect. I've been buzzed while hiking in the San Gabriel Mtns behind us by some pretty ballsy pilots - but this was something else...
Vance

lsf5275@aol. <mailto:lsf5275@aol.com> com wrote: 

  

I love soaring. Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia. Awesome videos.

 

In a message dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jandjstrz@verizon.net writes:

  

…the view is tremendous.

 

The soundtrack music isn’t too bad either (sorry no ‘tron)

 

enjoy the scenery……: )

 

 

http://www.youtube. <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zok7LltWU0E&feature=related> com/...&feature=related 

http://www.youtube. <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3c__hg1A1A&feature=related> com/...&feature=related

 

 

 

_Jim & Janet

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ms. Janet Strauss 
  To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:51 PM
  Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....


    

  P 51! 



  ……………….“Cadillac of the Skies!”



  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ouJ_WyS9v8

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfigpjOTZvs







  -----Original Message-----
  From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:52 AM
  To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....



    

    

  I was a solo "glider guider" at age 14. I had a total of 4 1/2 hours of instructor time before my release, while most adults require 24+ hours in an instructor enviroment.

  Doesn't hurt to have had a former WW2 fighter pilot father (P-51s), who kept flying his own aircraft until a year before ALS killed him at age 78.

  It's a wonderful experience and a lot like driving the race cars I enjoy (Formula One car next month), with the exception of having to get the aircraft on the ground in one piece on the first try.

  No "go arounds" in an unpowered plane!



  Try it you'll like it!



  Tony1

  PS bring a FAT wallet.



    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Pomeroy RH Ranch 

    To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 

    Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:41 PM

    Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....



      

    Extra Cool - we have one of the more popular glider ports in So Calif a few miles away. The only real way to know when they're close is hearing the tow plane when it veers off after disconnect. I've been buzzed while hiking in the San Gabriel Mtns behind us by some pretty ballsy pilots - but this was something else...
    Vance

    lsf5275@aol.com wrote: 

        

      I love soaring. Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia. Awesome videos.



      In a message dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jandjstrz@verizon.net writes:

          

        …the view is tremendous.



        The soundtrack music isn’t too bad either (sorry no ‘tron)



        enjoy the scenery……: )





        http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related 

        http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related







        _Jim & Janet

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: tony1 
  To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....


    
   

  Thank you kindly!
  Dad, a friend of his, a friend of mine and I attended the largest gathering of P-51s in Kissimme, Fl in the Spring of 98. There were 163 present and all in flying condition.
  He was on the ship home to form the AAC's first jet figter when news of the German surrender occured.
  Was to have flow the P-80 which as it turns out wasn't mich of an aircraft, IE non delta wing for one.
  15th Air Force, 352nd fighter group, 4th squadron, Naples Italy
  Hell of a man like most WW2 veterans. Naturally I'm biased and I miss him everyday.

  Tony

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Ms. Janet Strauss 
    To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:51 PM
    Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....


      

    P 51! 



    ……………….“Cadillac of the Skies!”



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ouJ_WyS9v8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfigpjOTZvs







    -----Original Message-----
    From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
    Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:52 AM
    To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....



      

      

    I was a solo "glider guider" at age 14. I had a total of 4 1/2 hours of instructor time before my release, while most adults require 24+ hours in an instructor enviroment.

    Doesn't hurt to have had a former WW2 fighter pilot father (P-51s), who kept flying his own aircraft until a year before ALS killed him at age 78.

    It's a wonderful experience and a lot like driving the race cars I enjoy (Formula One car next month), with the exception of having to get the aircraft on the ground in one piece on the first try.

    No "go arounds" in an unpowered plane!



    Try it you'll like it!



    Tony1

    PS bring a FAT wallet.



      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Pomeroy RH Ranch 

      To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 

      Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:41 PM

      Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....



        

      Extra Cool - we have one of the more popular glider ports in So Calif a few miles away. The only real way to know when they're close is hearing the tow plane when it veers off after disconnect. I've been buzzed while hiking in the San Gabriel Mtns behind us by some pretty ballsy pilots - but this was something else...
      Vance

      lsf5275@aol.com wrote: 

          

        I love soaring. Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia. Awesome videos.



        In a message dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jandjstrz@verizon.net writes:

            

          …the view is tremendous.



          The soundtrack music isn’t too bad either (sorry no ‘tron)



          enjoy the scenery……: )





          http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related 

          http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related







          _Jim & Janet

>  
>
> \ufeff
>
> Thank you kindly!
> Dad, a friend of his, a friend of mine and I attended the largest 
> gathering of P-51s in Kissimme, Fl in the Spring of 98. There were 163 
> present and all in flying condition.
> He was on the ship home to form the AAC's first jet figter when news 
> of the German surrender occured.
> Was to have flow the P-80 which as it turns out wasn't mich of an 
> aircraft, IE non delta wing for one.
> 15th Air Force, 352nd fighter group, 4th squadron, Naples Italy
> Hell of a man like most WW2 veterans. Naturally I'm biased and I miss 
> him everyday.
>  
> Tony
>  
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Ms. Janet Strauss <mailto:jandjstrz@verizon.net>
>     *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>     <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>     *Sent:* Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:51 PM
>     *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....
>
>      
>
>     *P 51! *
>
>      
>
>     /\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026.\u201c*Cadillac of the Skies!\u201d*/
>
>      
>
>     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ouJ_WyS9v8
>
>     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfigpjOTZvs
>
>      
>
>      
>
>      
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>     <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>     [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *tony1
>     *Sent:* Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:52 AM
>     *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>     <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>     *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....
>
>      
>
>      
>
>     \ufeff  
>
>     I was a solo "glider guider" at age 14. I had a total of 4 1/2
>     hours of instructor time before my release, while most adults
>     require 24+ hours in an instructor enviroment.
>
>     Doesn't hurt to have had a former WW2 fighter pilot father
>     (P-51s), who kept flying his own aircraft until a year before ALS
>     killed him at age 78.
>
>     It's a wonderful experience and a lot like driving the race cars
>     I enjoy (Formula One car next month), with the exception of having
>     to get the aircraft on the ground in one piece on the first try.
>
>     No "go arounds" in an unpowered plane!
>
>      
>
>     Try it you'll like it!
>
>      
>
>     Tony1
>
>     PS bring a FAT wallet.
>
>      
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>
>         *From:* Pomeroy RH Ranch <mailto:punchbowl4@earthlink.net>
>
>         *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>         <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>
>         *Sent:* Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:41 PM
>
>         *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....
>
>          
>
>          
>
>         Extra Cool - we have one of the more popular glider ports in
>         So Calif a few miles away. The only real way to know when
>         they're close is hearing the tow plane when it veers off after
>         disconnect. I've been buzzed while hiking in the San Gabriel
>         Mtns behind us by some pretty ballsy pilots - but this was
>         something else...
>         Vance
>
>         lsf5275@aol.com <mailto:lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>          
>>
>>         I love soaring. Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia.
>>         Awesome videos.
>>
>>          
>>
>>         In a message dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight
>>         Time, jandjstrz@verizon.net writes:
>>
>>              
>>
>>             \u2026the view is tremendous.
>>
>>              
>>
>>             The soundtrack music isn\u2019t too bad either (sorry no \u2018tron)
>>
>>              
>>
>>             enjoy the scenery\u2026\u2026: )
>>
>>              
>>
>>              
>>
>>             http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related
>>             <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zok7LltWU0E&feature=related>
>>
>>             http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related
>>             <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3c__hg1A1A&feature=related>
>>
>>              
>>
>>              
>>
>>              
>>
>>             _Jim & Janet
>>
>

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pomeroy RH Ranch 
  To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....


    
  Tony -
  Great story! My grandfather was a piggyback test engineer in the P-38 for Lockheed back in the day. My namesake's father was Lockheed test pilot Milo Burcham who lost his life in a crash testing the P-80 http://www.godickson.com/Milo_Burcham.htm. 
  Lots of guts those men among men.
  Vance

  tony1 wrote: 

      
     

    Thank you kindly!
    Dad, a friend of his, a friend of mine and I attended the largest gathering of P-51s in Kissimme, Fl in the Spring of 98. There were 163 present and all in flying condition.
    He was on the ship home to form the AAC's first jet figter when news of the German surrender occured.
    Was to have flow the P-80 which as it turns out wasn't mich of an aircraft, IE non delta wing for one.
    15th Air Force, 352nd fighter group, 4th squadron, Naples Italy
    Hell of a man like most WW2 veterans. Naturally I'm biased and I miss him everyday.

    Tony

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Ms. Janet Strauss 
      To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
      Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:51 PM
      Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....


        

      P 51! 



      ……………….“Cadillac of the Skies!”



      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ouJ_WyS9v8

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfigpjOTZvs







      -----Original Message-----
      From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
      Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:52 AM
      To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....



        

        

      I was a solo "glider guider" at age 14. I had a total of 4 1/2 hours of instructor time before my release, while most adults require 24+ hours in an instructor enviroment.

      Doesn't hurt to have had a former WW2 fighter pilot father (P-51s), who kept flying his own aircraft until a year before ALS killed him at age 78.

      It's a wonderful experience and a lot like driving the race cars I enjoy (Formula One car next month), with the exception of having to get the aircraft on the ground in one piece on the first try.

      No "go arounds" in an unpowered plane!



      Try it you'll like it!



      Tony1

      PS bring a FAT wallet.



        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Pomeroy RH Ranch 

        To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 

        Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:41 PM

        Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....



          

        Extra Cool - we have one of the more popular glider ports in So Calif a few miles away. The only real way to know when they're close is hearing the tow plane when it veers off after disconnect. I've been buzzed while hiking in the San Gabriel Mtns behind us by some pretty ballsy pilots - but this was something else...
        Vance

        lsf5275@aol.com wrote: 

            

          I love soaring. Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia. Awesome videos.



          In a message dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jandjstrz@verizon.net writes:

              

            …the view is tremendous.



            The soundtrack music isn’t too bad either (sorry no ‘tron)



            enjoy the scenery……: )





            http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related 

            http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related







            _Jim & Janet

----- Original Message ----- 
From: _Pomeroy RH Ranch_ (mailto:punchbowl4@earthlink.net)  
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:38  PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off  topic - Out on a wing.....



Tony -
Great story! My grandfather was a piggyback test engineer in  the P-38 for 
Lockheed back in the day. My namesake's father was Lockheed  test pilot Milo 
Burcham who lost his life in a crash testing the P-80 
_http://www.godickson.com/Milo_Burcham.htm_ (http://www.godickson.com/Milo_Burcham.htm) .  
Lots of guts those men among men.
Vance

tony1 wrote:  
 
  
Thank you kindly!
Dad, a friend of his, a friend of  mine and I attended the largest 
gathering of P-51s in Kissimme, Fl in the  Spring of 98. There were 163 present and 
all in flying  condition.
He was on the ship home to form the  AAC's first jet figter when news of 
the German surrender  occured.
Was to have flow the P-80 which as  it turns out wasn't mich of an 
aircraft, IE non delta wing for  one.
15th Air Force, 352nd fighter  group, 4th squadron, Naples Italy
 
Hell of a man like most WW2  veterans. Naturally I'm biased and I miss him 
everyday.

 
Tony
 

-----  Original Message ----- 
From:  _Ms. Janet Strauss_ (mailto:jandjstrz@verizon.net)   
To:  _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)  
Sent:  Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:51 PM
Subject:  RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....



 
P  51!  
……………….“Cadillac of the  Skies!” 
 
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ouJ_WyS9v8_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ouJ_WyS9v8)  
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfigpjOTZvs_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfigpjOTZvs)  

-----Original  Message-----
From: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)  [_mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ]  On Behalf Of  tony1
Sent:  Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:52 AM
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup]  Off topic - Out on a wing..... 
 
 
 
   
 
I was a solo  "glider guider" at age 14. I had a total of 4 1/2 hours of  
instructor time before my release, while most adults require 24+ hours  in an 
instructor enviroment.
 
Doesn't hurt to  have had a former WW2 fighter pilot father (P-51s), who 
kept flying his  own aircraft until a year before ALS killed him at age  78.
 
It's a wonderful  experience and a lot like driving the race cars I enjoy 
(Formula  One car next month), with the exception of having to get the 
aircraft on  the ground in one piece on the first try.
 
No "go arounds"  in an unpowered plane!
 

 
Try it you'll  like it!
 

 
Tony1
 
PS bring a FAT  wallet.
 


 
----- Original Message  ----- 
 
From:  _Pomeroy RH Ranch_ (mailto:punchbowl4@earthlink.net)   
 
To:  _newmellotrongroup@newmellotronnew_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   
 
Sent:  Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:41 PM
 
Subject:  Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a  wing.....
 

 
Extra Cool - we have one of the more popular  glider ports in So Calif a 
few miles away. The only real way to know  when they're close is hearing the 
tow plane when it veers off after  disconnect. I've been buzzed while hiking 
in the San Gabriel Mtns  behind us by some pretty ballsy pilots - but this 
was something  else...
Vance

_lsf5275@aol.lsf_ (mailto:lsf5275@aol.com)   wrote:  
 
 
I love  soaring. Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia. Awesome  
videos.
 

 
 
In a  message dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jandjstrz@verizon.In a  

 
 
…the  view is tremendous. 
The  soundtrack music isn’t too bad either (sorry no  ‘tron) 
enjoy  the scenery……: ) 
_http://www.youtube.http://&feature=related_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zok7LltWU0E&feature=related)   

_http://www.youtube.http://&feature=related_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3c__hg1A1A&feature=related)  
 

 
_Jim &  Janet

On Aug 13, 2010, at 8:58 AM, Gary Brumm wrote:

>
> Me too!.......I used to own an avionics shop and was partners in a  
> Robinson helicopter dealership.  Up until the last couple
>
> of years I was at the Reno air races watching the P-51s race every  
> year.  I always wanted to fly gliders but never did….soaring
>
> looks like a lot of fun….maybe one of these day I’ll give it a  
> try……..
>
>
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:05 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....
>
>
>
>
>
> This is great! I never knew that there were so many people  
> interested in flight in this group. I have been flying all of my  
> life, both full scale and models.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 8/13/2010 12:25:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, atm655@verizon.net 
>  writes:
>
>
>
> 
>
> Vance,
>
> Very interesting and informative.
>
> Dad had his choice of the P-38 or the 51, he told me he thought he  
> be warmer in the 51, true story!
>
> With a 1700 HP, Rolls-Royce/Merlin whirring away in front of you  
> sure did help, he told me.
>
> He was always fit and I genuinely believe him, at those altitudes  
> the temps were and are in the minus 40-60F range.
>
> Imagine that for 8 hours or so and the constant threat of anti- 
> aircraft fire, fighters, all at age 21!
>
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Pomeroy RH Ranch
>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:38 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....
>
>
>
>
>
> Tony -
> Great story! My grandfather was a piggyback test engineer in the  
> P-38 for Lockheed back in the day. My namesake's father was Lockheed  
> test pilot Milo Burcham who lost his life in a crash testing the  
> P-80 http://www.godickson.com/Milo_Burcham.htm.
> Lots of guts those men among men.
> Vance
>
> tony1 wrote:
>
>
>
> 
>
> Thank you kindly!
>
> Dad, a friend of his, a friend of mine and I attended the largest  
> gathering of P-51s in Kissimme, Fl in the Spring of 98. There were  
> 163 present and all in flying condition.
>
> He was on the ship home to form the AAC's first jet figter when news  
> of the German surrender occured.
>
> Was to have flow the P-80 which as it turns out wasn't mich of an  
> aircraft, IE non delta wing for one.
>
> 15th Air Force, 352nd fighter group, 4th squadron, Naples Italy
>
> Hell of a man like most WW2 veterans. Naturally I'm biased and I  
> miss him everyday.
>
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Ms. Janet Strauss
>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:51 PM
>
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....
>
>
>
>
>
> P 51!
>
>
>
> ……………….“Cadillac of the Skies!”
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ouJ_WyS9v8
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfigpjOTZvs
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of tony1
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:52 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> I was a solo "glider guider" at age 14. I had a total of 4 1/2 hours  
> of instructor time before my release, while most adults require 24+  
> hours in an instructor enviroment.
>
> Doesn't hurt to have had a former WW2 fighter pilot father (P-51s),  
> who kept flying his own aircraft until a year before ALS killed him  
> at age 78.
>
> It's a wonderful experience and a lot like driving the race cars I  
> enjoy (Formula One car next month), with the exception of having to  
> get the aircraft on the ground in one piece on the first try.
>
> No "go arounds" in an unpowered plane!
>
>
>
> Try it you'll like it!
>
>
>
> Tony1
>
> PS bring a FAT wallet.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Pomeroy RH Ranch
>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:41 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....
>
>
>
>
>
> Extra Cool - we have one of the more popular glider ports in So  
> Calif a few miles away. The only real way to know when they're close  
> is hearing the tow plane when it veers off after disconnect. I've  
> been buzzed while hiking in the San Gabriel Mtns behind us by some  
> pretty ballsy pilots - but this was something else...
> Vance
>
> lsf5275@aol.com wrote:
>
>
>
> I love soaring. Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia. Awesome  
> videos.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jandjstrz@verizon.net 
>  writes:
>
>
>
> …the view is tremendous.
>
>
>
> The soundtrack music isn’t too bad either (sorry no ‘tron)
>
>
>
> enjoy the scenery……: )
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related
>
> http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _Jim & Janet
>
>
>
>

From: Ms. Janet Strauss
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:51 PM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....



P 51!



……………….“¦â€¦.“Cadillac of the Skies!”



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ouJ_WyS9v8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfigpjOTZvs

;





-----Original Message-----
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [ mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:52 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....







I was a solo "glider guider" at age 14. I had a total of 4 1/2 hours of instructor time before my release, while most adults require 24+ hours in an instructor enviroment.

Doesn't hurt to have had a former WW2 fighter pilot father (P-51s), who kept flying his own aircraft until a year before ALS killed him at age 78.

It's a wonderful experience and a lot like driving the race cars I enjoy (Formula One car next month), with the exception of having to get the aircraft on the ground in one piece on the first try.

No "go arounds" in an unpowered plane!



Try it you'll like it!



Tony1

PS bring a FAT wallet.



----- Original Message -----

From: Pomeroy RH Ranch

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:41 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....





Extra Cool - we have one of the more popular glider ports in So Calif a few miles away. The only real way to know when they're close is hearing the tow plane when it veers off after disconnect. I've been buzzed while hiking in the San Gabriel Mtns behind us by some pretty ballsy pilots - but this was something else...
Vance

lsf5275@aol.com wrote:

I love soaring. Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia. Awesome videos.



In a message dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jandjstrz@verizon.net writes:



…the view is tremendous.



The soundtrack music isn’t too bad either (sorry no ‘tron)



enjoy the scenery……: )
>





http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related







_ Jim & Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: tony1 <atm655@verizon.net>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:16 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....


  
    
                  

Thank you kindly!
Dad, a friend of his, a friend of mine and I attended the largest gathering of P-51s in Kissimme, Fl in the Spring of 98. There were 163 present and all in flying condition.
He was on the ship home to form the AAC's first jet figter when news of the German surrender occured.
Was to have flow the P-80 which as it turns out wasn't mich of an aircraft, IE non delta wing for one.
15th Air Force, 352nd fighter group, 4th squadron, Naples Italy

Hell of a man like most WW2 veterans. Naturally I'm biased and I miss him everyday.

 
Tony
 
  
----- Original Message ----- 
  
From:   Ms. Janet   Strauss 
  
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com   
  
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:51   PM
  
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off   topic - Out on a wing.....
  


    
  
  
  
P   51! 
  
 
  
……………….“Cadillac of the   Skies!”
  
 
  
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ouJ_WyS9v8
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfigpjOTZvs
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
-----Original   Message-----
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com   [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:52   AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off   topic - Out on a wing.....
  
 
  
  
  
  
  
  
    
  
  
I was a solo "glider   guider" at age 14. I had a total of 4 1/2 hours of instructor time before   my release, while most adults require 24+ hours in an instructor   enviroment.
  
  
Doesn't hurt to have   had a former WW2 fighter pilot father (P-51s), who kept flying his own   aircraft until a year before ALS killed him at age 78.
  
  
It's a wonderful   experience and a lot like driving the race cars I enjoy (Formula One car   next month), with the exception of having to get the aircraft on the ground in   one piece on the first try.
  
  
No "go arounds" in an   unpowered plane!
  
  
 
  
  
Try it you'll like   it!
  
  
 
  
  
Tony1
  
  
PS bring a FAT   wallet.
  
  
 
  
    
    
----- Original Message -----     
    
    
From: Pomeroy RH Ranch     
    
    
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com     
    
    
Sent:     Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:41 PM
    
    
Subject: Re:     [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....
    
    
 
    
  
    
    
Extra     Cool - we have one of the more popular glider ports in So Calif a few miles     away. The only real way to know when they're close is hearing the tow plane     when it veers off after disconnect. I've been buzzed while hiking in the San     Gabriel Mtns behind us by some pretty ballsy pilots - but this was something     else...
Vance

lsf5275@aol.com wrote:     
    
      
  
      
      
      
I love soaring.       Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia. Awesome       videos.
      
      
 
      
      
      
In a message       dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,       jandjstrz@verizon.net writes:
      
        
          
        
        
        
…the view         is tremendous.
        
 
        
The         soundtrack music isn’t too bad either (sorry no ‘tron)
        
 
        
enjoy the         scenery……: )
        
 
        
 
        
http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related         

http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related
        
 
        
        
 
        
 
        
        
_Jim &         Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: tony1 <atm655@verizon.net>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:16 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....


  
    
                  

Thank you kindly!
Dad, a friend of his, a friend of mine and I attended the largest gathering of P-51s in Kissimme, Fl in the Spring of 98. There were 163 present and all in flying condition.
He was on the ship home to form the AAC's first jet figter when news of the German surrender occured.
Was to have flow the P-80 which as it turns out wasn't mich of an aircraft, IE non delta wing for one.
15th Air Force, 352nd fighter group, 4th squadron, Naples Italy

Hell of a man like most WW2 veterans. Naturally I'm biased and I miss him everyday.

 
Tony
 
  
----- Original Message ----- 
  
From:   Ms. Janet   Strauss 
  
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com   
  
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:51   PM
  
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off   topic - Out on a wing.....
  


    
  
  
  
P   51! 
  
 
  
……………….“Cadillac of the   Skies!”
  
 
  
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ouJ_WyS9v8
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfigpjOTZvs
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
-----Original   Message-----
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com   [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:52   AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off   topic - Out on a wing.....
  
 
  
  
  
  
  
  
    
  
  
I was a solo "glider   guider" at age 14. I had a total of 4 1/2 hours of instructor time before   my release, while most adults require 24+ hours in an instructor   enviroment.
  
  
Doesn't hurt to have   had a former WW2 fighter pilot father (P-51s), who kept flying his own   aircraft until a year before ALS killed him at age 78.
  
  
It's a wonderful   experience and a lot like driving the race cars I enjoy (Formula One car   next month), with the exception of having to get the aircraft on the ground in   one piece on the first try.
  
  
No "go arounds" in an   unpowered plane!
  
  
 
  
  
Try it you'll like   it!
  
  
 
  
  
Tony1
  
  
PS bring a FAT   wallet.
  
  
 
  
    
    
----- Original Message -----     
    
    
From: Pomeroy RH Ranch     
    
    
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com     
    
    
Sent:     Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:41 PM
    
    
Subject: Re:     [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....
    
    
 
    
  
    
    
Extra     Cool - we have one of the more popular glider ports in So Calif a few miles     away. The only real way to know when they're close is hearing the tow plane     when it veers off after disconnect. I've been buzzed while hiking in the San     Gabriel Mtns behind us by some pretty ballsy pilots - but this was something     else...
Vance

lsf5275@aol.com wrote:     
    
      
  
      
      
      
I love soaring.       Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia. Awesome       videos.
      
      
 
      
      
      
In a message       dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,       jandjstrz@verizon.net writes:
      
        
          
        
        
        
…the view         is tremendous.
        
 
        
The         soundtrack music isn’t too bad either (sorry no ‘tron)
        
 
        
enjoy the         scenery……: )
        
 
        
 
        
http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related         

http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related
        
 
        
        
 
        
 
        
        
_Jim &         Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: tony1 <atm655@verizon.net>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:16 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....


  
    
                  

Thank you kindly!
Dad, a friend of his, a friend of mine and I attended the largest gathering of P-51s in Kissimme, Fl in the Spring of 98. There were 163 present and all in flying condition.
He was on the ship home to form the AAC's first jet figter when news of the German surrender occured.
Was to have flow the P-80 which as it turns out wasn't mich of an aircraft, IE non delta wing for one.
15th Air Force, 352nd fighter group, 4th squadron, Naples Italy

Hell of a man like most WW2 veterans. Naturally I'm biased and I miss him everyday.

 
Tony
 
  
----- Original Message ----- 
  
From:   Ms. Janet   Strauss 
  
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com   
  
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:51   PM
  
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off   topic - Out on a wing.....
  


    
  
  
  
P   51! 
  
 
  
……………….“Cadillac of the   Skies!”
  
 
  
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ouJ_WyS9v8
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfigpjOTZvs
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
-----Original   Message-----
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com   [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:52   AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off   topic - Out on a wing.....
  
 
  
  
  
  
  
  
    
  
  
I was a solo "glider   guider" at age 14. I had a total of 4 1/2 hours of instructor time before   my release, while most adults require 24+ hours in an instructor   enviroment.
  
  
Doesn't hurt to have   had a former WW2 fighter pilot father (P-51s), who kept flying his own   aircraft until a year before ALS killed him at age 78.
  
  
It's a wonderful   experience and a lot like driving the race cars I enjoy (Formula One car   next month), with the exception of having to get the aircraft on the ground in   one piece on the first try.
  
  
No "go arounds" in an   unpowered plane!
  
  
 
  
  
Try it you'll like   it!
  
  
 
  
  
Tony1
  
  
PS bring a FAT   wallet.
  
  
 
  
    
    
----- Original Message -----     
    
    
From: Pomeroy RH Ranch     
    
    
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com     
    
    
Sent:     Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:41 PM
    
    
Subject: Re:     [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....
    
    
 
    
  
    
    
Extra     Cool - we have one of the more popular glider ports in So Calif a few miles     away. The only real way to know when they're close is hearing the tow plane     when it veers off after disconnect. I've been buzzed while hiking in the San     Gabriel Mtns behind us by some pretty ballsy pilots - but this was something     else...
Vance

lsf5275@aol.com wrote:     
    
      
  
      
      
      
I love soaring.       Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia. Awesome       videos.
      
      
 
      
      
      
In a message       dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,       jandjstrz@verizon.net writes:
      
        
          
        
        
        
…the view         is tremendous.
        
 
        
The         soundtrack music isn’t too bad either (sorry no ‘tron)
        
 
        
enjoy the         scenery……: )
        
 
        
 
        
http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related         

http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related
        
 
        
        
 
        
 
        
        
_Jim &         Janet

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Wright 
  To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 8:26 AM
  Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....


    
   

  Tony,

  My Father in law, was attached to RAF in WWII.  He was an air reconnaissance pilot.  Was able to fly the Spitfire and P-51. Only flew with cameras, but did lose 3 aircraft, however he never had a scratch.  Each time, was helped back to England first by French and later Canadian occupation forces after D-day.  His scrap book contains battle damage photos of the V1 and V2 rocket sites and tons of pictures from flight training in TX to post WWII occupation in France.  Too many officers in 1948, so discharged, but he flew small planes till he was about 70.

  He lived with us about ten year ago till he passed away, but you should have seen him when a 51 was in town for an air show.  He heard the Rolls-Royce/Merlin from miles away and got to see it fly by. A truly awesome sound.

  John



------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
  Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 12:25 AM
  To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....


    
   

  Vance,
  Very interesting and informative.
  Dad had his choice of the P-38 or the 51, he told me he thought he be warmer in the 51, true story!
  With a 1700 HP, Rolls-Royce/Merlin whirring away in front of you sure did help, he told me.
  He was always fit and I genuinely believe him, at those altitudes the temps were and are in the minus 40-60F range.
  Imagine that for 8 hours or so and the constant threat of anti-aircraft fire, fighters, all at age 21!

  Tony

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Pomeroy RH Ranch 
    To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:38 PM
    Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....


      
    Tony -
    Great story! My grandfather was a piggyback test engineer in the P-38 for Lockheed back in the day. My namesake's father was Lockheed test pilot Milo Burcham who lost his life in a crash testing the P-80 http://www.godickson.com/Milo_Burcham.htm. 
    Lots of guts those men among men.
    Vance

    tony1 wrote: 

        
       

      Thank you kindly!
      Dad, a friend of his, a friend of mine and I attended the largest gathering of P-51s in Kissimme, Fl in the Spring of 98. There were 163 present and all in flying condition.
      He was on the ship home to form the AAC's first jet figter when news of the German surrender occured.
      Was to have flow the P-80 which as it turns out wasn't mich of an aircraft, IE non delta wing for one.
      15th Air Force, 352nd fighter group, 4th squadron, Naples Italy
      Hell of a man like most WW2 veterans. Naturally I'm biased and I miss him everyday.

      Tony

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Ms. Janet Strauss 
        To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
        Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:51 PM
        Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....


          

        P 51! 



        ……………….“Cadillac of the Skies!”



        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ouJ_WyS9v8

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfigpjOTZvs







        -----Original Message-----
        From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
        Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:52 AM
        To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....



          

          

        I was a solo "glider guider" at age 14. I had a total of 4 1/2 hours of instructor time before my release, while most adults require 24+ hours in an instructor enviroment.

        Doesn't hurt to have had a former WW2 fighter pilot father (P-51s), who kept flying his own aircraft until a year before ALS killed him at age 78.

        It's a wonderful experience and a lot like driving the race cars I enjoy (Formula One car next month), with the exception of having to get the aircraft on the ground in one piece on the first try.

        No "go arounds" in an unpowered plane!



        Try it you'll like it!



        Tony1

        PS bring a FAT wallet.



          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: Pomeroy RH Ranch 

          To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 

          Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:41 PM

          Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....



            

          Extra Cool - we have one of the more popular glider ports in So Calif a few miles away. The only real way to know when they're close is hearing the tow plane when it veers off after disconnect. I've been buzzed while hiking in the San Gabriel Mtns behind us by some pretty ballsy pilots - but this was something else...
          Vance

          lsf5275@aol.com wrote: 

              

            I love soaring. Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia. Awesome videos.



            In a message dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jandjstrz@verizon.net writes:

                

              …the view is tremendous.



              The soundtrack music isn’t too bad either (sorry no ‘tron)



              enjoy the scenery……: )





              http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related 

              http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related







              _Jim & Janet

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark Wallis 
  To: new trongroup 
  Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 9:41 AM
  Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....


    
  I've had one lesson in a little Cessna as a present from my ex-girlfriend's dad.. does that count? 

  Holiday flights aside, the only other flying I've done involved my 1950 BSA M21 and a Fiat X1/9.. Which was actually written off by the BSA. England 1, Italy 0.

   Love and Scones,

  MSW (M400 no151)




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  To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
  From: fdoddy@aol.com
  Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:12:45 -0400
  Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....

    
  My dad, a WW2 vet, is still around.  Agreed, they don't make 'em like that anymore...

  fritz..."I just wasn't made for these times"







  -----Original Message-----
  From: tony1 <atm655@verizon.net>
  To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:16 pm
  Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....


    
   
  Thank you kindly!
  Dad, a friend of his, a friend of mine and I attended the largest gathering of P-51s in Kissimme, Fl in the Spring of 98. There were 163 present and all in flying condition.
  He was on the ship home to form the AAC's first jet figter when news of the German surrender occured.
  Was to have flow the P-80 which as it turns out wasn't mich of an aircraft, IE non delta wing for one.
  15th Air Force, 352nd fighter group, 4th squadron, Naples Italy
  Hell of a man like most WW2 veterans. Naturally I'm biased and I miss him everyday.

  Tony

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Ms. Janet Strauss 
    To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:51 PM
    Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....


      
    P 51! 

    ……………….“Cadillac of the Skies!”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ouJ_WyS9v8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfigpjOTZvs



    -----Original Message-----
    From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
    Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:52 AM
    To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....

      
      
    I was a solo "glider guider" at age 14. I had a total of 4 1/2 hours of instructor time before my release, while most adults require 24+ hours in an instructor enviroment.
    Doesn't hurt to have had a former WW2 fighter pilot father (P-51s), who kept flying his own aircraft until a year before ALS killed him at age 78.
    It's a wonderful experience and a lot like driving the race cars I enjoy (Formula One car next month), with the exception of having to get the aircraft on the ground in one piece on the first try.
    No "go arounds" in an unpowered plane!

    Try it you'll like it!

    Tony1
    PS bring a FAT wallet.

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Pomeroy RH Ranch 
      To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
      Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:41 PM
      Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....

        
      Extra Cool - we have one of the more popular glider ports in So Calif a few miles away. The only real way to know when they're close is hearing the tow plane when it veers off after disconnect. I've been buzzed while hiking in the San Gabriel Mtns behind us by some pretty ballsy pilots - but this was something else...
      Vance

      lsf5275@aol.com wrote: 
          
        I love soaring. Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia. Awesome videos.

        In a message dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jandjstrz@verizon.net writes:
            
          …the view is tremendous.

          The soundtrack music isn’t too bad either (sorry no ‘tron)

          enjoy the scenery……: )


          http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related 

          http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related



          _Jim & Janet

 From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com  
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pomeroy RH  Ranch
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:39 PM
To:  newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup]  Off topic - Out on a wing.....




Tony -
Great story! My grandfather was a piggyback test engineer in the  P-38 for 
Lockheed back in the day. My namesake's father was Lockheed test  pilot Milo 
Burcham who lost his life in a crash testing the P-80 
_http://www.godickson.com/Milo_Burcham.htm_ (http://www.godickson.com/Milo_Burcham.htm) .  
Lots of guts those men among men.
Vance

tony1 wrote:  
 
  
Thank you kindly!
Dad, a friend of his, a friend of  mine and I attended the largest 
gathering of P-51s in Kissimme, Fl in the  Spring of 98. There were 163 present and 
all in flying  condition.
He was on the ship home to form the  AAC's first jet figter when news of 
the German surrender  occured.
Was to have flow the P-80 which as it  turns out wasn't mich of an 
aircraft, IE non delta wing for  one.
15th Air Force, 352nd fighter group,  4th squadron, Naples Italy
 
Hell of a man like most WW2 veterans.  Naturally I'm biased and I miss him 
everyday.

 
Tony
 

-----  Original Message ----- 
From:  _Ms. Janet Strauss_ (mailto:jandjstrz@verizon.net)  
To:  _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)  
Sent:  Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:51 PM
Subject:  RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....



 
P  51!  
……………….“Cadillac of the  Skies!” 
 
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ouJ_WyS9v8_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ouJ_WyS9v8)  
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfigpjOTZvs_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfigpjOTZvs)  

-----Original  Message-----
From: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)  [_mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ]  On Behalf Of  tony1
Sent:  Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:52 AM
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off  topic - Out on a wing..... 
 
 
 
   
 
I was a solo  "glider guider" at age 14. I had a total of 4 1/2 hours of 
instructor  time before my release, while most adults require 24+ hours in an  
instructor enviroment.
 
Doesn't hurt to  have had a former WW2 fighter pilot father (P-51s), who 
kept flying his  own aircraft until a year before ALS killed him at age  78.
 
It's a wonderful  experience and a lot like driving the race cars I enjoy 
(Formula One  car next month), with the exception of having to get the 
aircraft on the  ground in one piece on the first try.
 
No "go arounds" in  an unpowered plane!
 

 
Try it you'll like  it!
 

 
Tony1
 
PS bring a FAT  wallet.
 


 
----- Original Message -----  
 
From: _Pomeroy RH Ranch_ (mailto:punchbowl4@earthlink.net)   
 
To: _newmellotrongroup@newmellotronnew_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   
 
Sent:  Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:41 PM
 
Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a  wing.....
 

 
Extra Cool - we have one of the more popular  glider ports in So Calif a 
few miles away. The only real way to know  when they're close is hearing the 
tow plane when it veers off after  disconnect. I've been buzzed while hiking 
in the San Gabriel Mtns behind  us by some pretty ballsy pilots - but this 
was something  else...
Vance

_lsf5275@aol.lsf_ (mailto:lsf5275@aol.com)  wrote:   
 
 
I love  soaring. Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia. Awesome  
videos.
 

 
 
In a message  dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jandjstrz@verizon.In a messag

 
 
…the  view is tremendous. 
The  soundtrack music isn’t too bad either (sorry no  ‘tron) 
enjoy  the scenery……: ) 
_http://www.youtube.http://&feature=related_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zok7LltWU0E&feature=related)   

_http://www.youtube.http://&feature=related_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3c__hg1A1A&feature=related)  
 

 
_Jim &  Janet

----- Original Message ----- 
From: _Mark Wallis_ (mailto:markstuartwallis@hotmail.com)  
To: _new trongroup_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)  
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 9:41  AM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off  topic - Out on a wing.....



I've had one lesson in a little Cessna as a present from my  
ex-girlfriend's dad.. does that count? 

Holiday flights aside, the  only other flying I've done involved my 1950 
BSA M21 and a Fiat X1/9.. Which  was actually written off by the BSA. England 
1, Italy 0.

Love  and Scones,

MSW (M400 no151)

 
____________________________________
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
From:  _fdoddy@aol.com_ (mailto:fdoddy@aol.com) 
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010  09:12:45 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a  wing.....


 
 
My dad, a WW2  vet, is still around.  Agreed, they don't make 'em like that 
 anymore...

fritz..."I just wasn't made for these  times"








-----Original  Message-----
From: tony1 <atm655@verizon.net>
To:  newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:16  pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a  wing.....


 
 
 
 
Thank you kindly!
Dad, a friend of his, a friend of  mine and I attended the largest 
gathering of P-51s in Kissimme, Fl in the  Spring of 98. There were 163 present and 
all in flying  condition.
He was on the ship home to form the  AAC's first jet figter when news of 
the German surrender  occured.
Was to have flow the P-80 which as it  turns out wasn't mich of an 
aircraft, IE non delta wing for  one.
15th Air Force, 352nd fighter group,  4th squadron, Naples Italy
 
Hell of a man like most WW2 veterans.  Naturally I'm biased and I miss him 
everyday.

 
Tony
 

-----  Original Message ----- 
From:  _Ms. Janet Strauss_ (mailto:jandjstrz@verizon.net)  
To:  _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   
Sent:  Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:51 PM
Subject:  RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....




 
P  51! 
 
……………….“Cadillac of the  Skies!”
 
 
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ouJ_WyS9v8_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ouJ_WyS9v8) 
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfigpjOTZvs_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfigpjOTZvs) 
 
 

 
-----Original  Message-----
From: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   [_mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com?) ]  On Behalf Of  tony1
Sent:  Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:52 AM
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongr
oup@yahoogroups.com) 
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off  topic - Out on a wing.....
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
I was a solo  "glider guider" at age 14. I had a total of 4 1/2 hours of 
instructor  time before my release, while most adults require 24+ hours in an  
instructor enviroment.

 
Doesn't hurt to  have had a former WW2 fighter pilot father (P-51s), who 
kept flying his  own aircraft until a year before ALS killed him at age  78.

 
It's a wonderful  experience and a lot like driving the race cars I enjoy 
(Formula One  car next month), with the exception of having to get the 
aircraft on the  ground in one piece on the first try.

 
No "go arounds" in  an unpowered plane!

 


 
Try it you'll like  it!

 


 
Tony1

 
PS bring a FAT  wallet.

 



 
----- Original Message -----  

 
From: _Pomeroy RH Ranch_ (mailto:punchbowl4@earthlink.net)   

 
To: _newmellotrongroup@newmellotronnew_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   

 
Sent:  Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:41 PM

 
Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a  wing.....

 



 
Extra Cool - we have one of the more popular  glider ports in So Calif a 
few miles away. The only real way to know  when they're close is hearing the 
tow plane when it veers off after  disconnect. I've been buzzed while hiking 
in the San Gabriel Mtns behind  us by some pretty ballsy pilots - but this 
was something  else...
Vance

_lsf5275@aol.lsf_ (mailto:lsf5275@aol.com)  wrote:  


 
 
I love  soaring. Blaniks are quite popular here in Virginia. Awesome  
videos.

 


 
 
In a message  dated 8/11/2010 10:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jandjstrz@verizon.In a messag


   
 
 
…the  view is tremendous.
 
The  soundtrack music isn’t too bad either (sorry no  ‘tron)
 
enjoy  the scenery……: )
 
 
_http://www.youtube.http://&feature=related_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zok7LltWU0E&feature=related)   

_http://www.youtube.http://&feature=related_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3c__hg1A1A&feature=related) 
 
 



 
_Jim &  Janet

>  
>
> \ufeff
>
> Ah yes, the P-38, my personal favorite.  If anyone on the list happens 
> to be close to Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton, Oh, the museum is worth 
> the road trip.  They have about one of everything there.
>  
> John
>
>
> **

-----Original Message-----
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 2:27 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic - Out on a wing.....

 

  

You can't fly a Mellotron.

 

In a message dated 8/13/2010 2:07:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
doctorwho8@aol.com writes:

Maybe a new group can be spun off: The Mellotron Flyers Club.
Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff

>
> /\ufffdYou can't fly a Mellotron.\ufffd/
>
> True\ufffd
>
> \ufffd
>

>
> Attached, for those who can see it. Are a few photos of a Wright Model B.  
> It is real and was built by Ken Hyde (see "Wright Experience"). Ken's shop 
> is  near where I live and I watched him build this airplane and also a real 
> 1903  Wright Flyer. He actually duplicated the entire Wright development 
> history.  Everything in this airplane is real, right down to duplicating the 
> muslin that  covers the wings (same material and thread count). Even the props 
> were of the  same wood and hand carved. The motor is the 2nd motor the 
> Wrights built to power  a Model B.